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Replying To Mayonman: "pity that gaago app isnt available in tv app stores. like the various other players. price for what you get is very good" It's on Samsung App store, works well but need to login with new code each time you start the app. Is on other Smart TV app stores and list included below mightn't be up-to-date so worth checking on your telly. link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 16/05/2024 18:11:45 2545173 Link
Replying To sporttech: "Hi All! I'm on an early stage entrepreneurial course for start ups in Dublin. It is averaging on less than 1 minute Sport Market research and would love your input! Would you mind sparing less than 1 minute to fill out my 5 multiple choice survey questions please? Your feedback would be incredibly valuable and greatly appreciated! Thank you so much in advance for your help if you do complete it. It is completely anonymous too! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2LWSNKM" Done Sporttech. Sounds like you've a good idea for an app. Best of luck with it. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 16/05/2024 18:15:43 2545175 Link
A solution here is that GAA Go shows the game live for those who want to see it live, but the game is uploaded onto YouTube later in the day. Everybody gets to see it. RTE can't show every epic game. Limerick were as likely to wipe the floor with Cork as the epic that unfolded was. Like, that Limerick Tipp game that was as good as over after 20 minutes. It was no better than a Munster football final but shhh.......you can't say a bad word about the Munster hurling championship! ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1259 - 17/05/2024 12:19:54 2545245 Link
The pundits are decent but oh my God they've had to sacrifice things on the commentator end. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 18/05/2024 17:10:34 2545424 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "A solution here is that GAA Go shows the game live for those who want to see it live, but the game is uploaded onto YouTube later in the day. Everybody gets to see it. RTE can't show every epic game. Limerick were as likely to wipe the floor with Cork as the epic that unfolded was. Like, that Limerick Tipp game that was as good as over after 20 minutes. It was no better than a Munster football final but shhh.......you can't say a bad word about the Munster hurling championship!" Why would gaa/rte agree and lose out on revenue then. Doing that reduces the Mount of people who subscribe and pay as they would know they get it later for nothing. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 18/05/2024 17:14:29 2545425 Link
Does anyone else find the frame rate very bad on it lately? Not the same quality as TV at all. FrankieJoe (Wicklow) - Posts: 87 - 19/05/2024 10:18:10 2545508 Link
The gaa are entitled to sell their product as Jarlath Burns said. However if the gaa put, as they do, top matches behind a paywall, they should not receive taxpayers money from the government. How much taxpayers money went into Croke Park. A lot I think. The gaa shouldn't be allowed to have it both ways. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2300 - 19/05/2024 10:29:12 2545511 Link
Replying To endgame: "The gaa are entitled to sell their product as Jarlath Burns said. However if the gaa put, as they do, top matches behind a paywall, they should not receive taxpayers money from the government. How much taxpayers money went into Croke Park. A lot I think. The gaa shouldn't be allowed to have it both ways." I agree with most of what you say Endgame but some organisations get taxpayers money and it's debatable if they do a fraction of the good that the GAA do. Abolishing the burden of the TV licence for all taxpayers would give them a few quid more where they can decide on GAAGO or GAANOGO. Not long ago on Hoganstand posters were asking for a GAA broadcaster so we could see more live games than were live on combinations of RTE/TG4/TV3/SkySports/YouTube etc. GAAGO is far from a perfect service, they cherry pick live games to maximise subscriptions, not good if your Internet coverage is poor. Arguably, even more streams impacts attendances negatively. Not explaining the connection options to view GAAGO needs a good bit more explanation by them. But even it's around for a few years, it's a fairly new service to be showing this many games and will hopefully listen to customers and why some potential customers won't sign up. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 19/05/2024 19:00:21 2545652 Link
Replying To endgame: "The gaa are entitled to sell their product as Jarlath Burns said. However if the gaa put, as they do, top matches behind a paywall, they should not receive taxpayers money from the government. How much taxpayers money went into Croke Park. A lot I think. The gaa shouldn't be allowed to have it both ways." Government funding for the redevelopment of Croke Park was less than half what it was for the redevelopment of the much smaller Lansdowne Road. And then the naming rights were sold there such that it became the Aviva Stadium, with ne'er a word from Government about that - unlike the recent renaming controversy in Cork when it was suggested it should be a condition of Government funding that either renaming has to be approved by Government, or else renaming not be allowed at all. I find it strange how the GAA is so often beaten with the "they got Government money, so they should/shouldn't ........" stick, but nobody ever seems to beat the IRFU/FAI with it. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 20/05/2024 15:04:49 2545893 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Government funding for the redevelopment of Croke Park was less than half what it was for the redevelopment of the much smaller Lansdowne Road. And then the naming rights were sold there such that it became the Aviva Stadium, with ne'er a word from Government about that - unlike the recent renaming controversy in Cork when it was suggested it should be a condition of Government funding that either renaming has to be approved by Government, or else renaming not be allowed at all. I find it strange how the GAA is so often beaten with the "they got Government money, so they should/shouldn't ........" stick, but nobody ever seems to beat the IRFU/FAI with it." Croke Park was redeveloped. GAA kept games game there during the 12 years of redevelopment, a vital source of income. Landsowne Road was demolished and Aviva Stadium built on the site. During that process the FAI and IRFU paid the GAA to rent out Croke Park for some games. Why should the government interfere with GAA/FAI/IRFU business of getting naming rights? Surely they get a return from those and other sporting organisations from VAT from sports related activities but also improving the health of participants and decreasing the burden on health services. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 20/05/2024 16:03:29 2545920 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Croke Park was redeveloped. GAA kept games game there during the 12 years of redevelopment, a vital source of income. Landsowne Road was demolished and Aviva Stadium built on the site. During that process the FAI and IRFU paid the GAA to rent out Croke Park for some games. Why should the government interfere with GAA/FAI/IRFU business of getting naming rights? Surely they get a return from those and other sporting organisations from VAT from sports related activities but also improving the health of participants and decreasing the burden on health services." I'm not suggesting that the Government should have a say on naming rights. Was just making the point that there wasn't a murmur about it when the IRFU/FAI did so, but when it was a GAA matter, there were suggestions that they should. Main point remains how it's strange you seldom or never hear complaints about how the IRFU/FAI do things after they got some €190 million for redevelopments, but you still often hear it about the GAA after they got less than half of that. Example would be how it's €20 for a child's ticket for a soccer friendly v Hungary in a couple of weeks, while it's just €5 to bring the same child to a senior hurling or football championship match, and some people even complain about that. But nobody saying "€20 to bring a ten-year-old to a friendly??? The cheek of them, after all the money they got from the Government......" Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 21/05/2024 12:28:16 2546126 Link
I have zero issue with this service for an audience outside the island. It is perfect for them. My issue is being forced to pay a licence fee to rte and them using that licence fee to outbid other providers to get this subscription service in Ireland also. So you pay your licence and have to fork out another fee on top to rte for this. In my opinion this isn't good enough and should not be allowed. Football is my game but I feel the national sport of hurling should not be behind this paywall. The gaa are thinking short term gain in this and will hurt them in the long term. They just need to see the example of cricket in England which went behind I paywall to see the damage done to participation numbers. Good enough for them if it happens. eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 21/05/2024 13:37:31 2546148 Link
Replying To endgame: "The gaa are entitled to sell their product as Jarlath Burns said. However if the gaa put, as they do, top matches behind a paywall, they should not receive taxpayers money from the government. How much taxpayers money went into Croke Park. A lot I think. The gaa shouldn't be allowed to have it both ways." Well look at it another way. What is the contribution of the GAA back to the state for that funding? The children I work with in our local club are (for the most part anyway) social, fit, healthy, resilient, hard-working and mentally stable as a result of their involvement in GAA. It keeps these children off the street and provides a healthy social environment, gets them off phones and screens, out of the healthcare settings and reduces obesity numbers. If the GAA does that alone, it is good bang for buck for the government. And the same applies to soccer and rugby and every sporting organisation. As Pikeman says, there is not a word when it is rugby or soccer selling their wares but people complain about a fiver for a GAA match. I don't agree with GAA GO and won't subscribe to it and my number 1 issue with it is the cosy relationship between the GAA and RTE where they basically have a monopoly on rights. The whole deal smells fishy. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1259 - 21/05/2024 15:48:57 2546194 Link
Replying To eslinchickenmaryland: "I have zero issue with this service for an audience outside the island. It is perfect for them. My issue is being forced to pay a licence fee to rte and them using that licence fee to outbid other providers to get this subscription service in Ireland also. So you pay your licence and have to fork out another fee on top to rte for this. In my opinion this isn't good enough and should not be allowed. Football is my game but I feel the national sport of hurling should not be behind this paywall. The gaa are thinking short term gain in this and will hurt them in the long term. They just need to see the example of cricket in England which went behind I paywall to see the damage done to participation numbers. Good enough for them if it happens." So you want 73 matches shown free to air by RTÉ. And many of these are on at the same time. So wall to wall GAA on multiple RTÉ channels. Hopelessly unrealistic. TerraPovera (Leitrim) - Posts: 11 - 21/05/2024 16:03:24 2546199 Link
Unfortunately the GAA is an ultra capitalist money orientated organisation where profit undoubtedly is much more important than people. It's sad because of the origins of the GAA as an amateur organisation but it's the way of the World. This is also shown in terms of ticket distribution for big matches people who haven't been to a match in their lives have as much/ possibly more chance of getting a ticket than those that go most/ every week to games. The GAA have no morals which is why GAA Go exists. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1673 - 21/05/2024 16:18:15 2546206 Link
As someone said everyone harps on about the gaa , gaago is very cheap in fairness, rte shows matches every week,, my young lad plays soccer under 11, 100 membership, they pay 2euro a match for referee no parents gives out, local gaa team under 11 charge 20 euro membership and same parents give out, think about it Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 472 - 21/05/2024 16:19:36 2546207 Link
Replying To TerraPovera: "So you want 73 matches shown free to air by RTÉ. And many of these are on at the same time. So wall to wall GAA on multiple RTÉ channels. Hopelessly unrealistic." They could give the extra games for free to TG4 as a thank you to TG4 for broadcasting many league games and other matches?? REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1673 - 21/05/2024 16:20:25 2546208 Link
Well I see the news channel being used for tipp/Clare next Sunday..it suits when they want to..against it I think it's the Galway/ Dublin match is live but wex/kk is behind paywall..if Gaa go was available like sky where you just turned on tv and the channel was available,don't think there would be as much uproar..all this signing in,passwords,smart tv,laptop to screen,makes it very hard and then there is the broadband problem. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2378 - 21/05/2024 16:32:11 2546214 Link
Replying To REDANDBLACK30: "They could give the extra games for free to TG4 as a thank you to TG4 for broadcasting many league games and other matches??" Maybe have free attendance for all at all matches including the All Ireland finals. I mean it's easy to run an organisation the size of the GAA on fresh air. And then give 83% of that fresh air back to the clubs. TerraPovera (Leitrim) - Posts: 11 - 21/05/2024 16:38:45 2546216 Link
Replying To REDANDBLACK30: "Unfortunately the GAA is an ultra capitalist money orientated organisation where profit undoubtedly is much more important than people. It's sad because of the origins of the GAA as an amateur organisation but it's the way of the World. This is also shown in terms of ticket distribution for big matches people who haven't been to a match in their lives have as much/ possibly more chance of getting a ticket than those that go most/ every week to games. The GAA have no morals which is why GAA Go exists." They might be, emphasis on might, learning some errors of their ways. Their All Ireland group games deal, €50 for adults, €15 for juveniles, is a good deal. Not ignoring your capitalist comment. They do seem to have to taken the turn to benefit from making stronger counties stronger and give them more games to boost TV revenue. That's top brass GAA, suits, not grassroots. They're far removed from the reality that some clubs have to face, pitch availability at the start of the year, getting players and maybe family members registered to raise some funds, getting refs for matches, fundraising for new jersies, having the underage numbers good and keeping them good and trying to add to them etc. A lot of clubs have a coffee shop that'll give them a small bit more cash. Decent coffee too, at times! Better than what you'll get in Croke Park on match day. That's because the club needs more money to survive. Croke Park has your ticket money, they don't seem interested in improving the quality of catering. Sure there's more profit selling beer than there is selling coffee and sandwiches. I am that cynical! GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 21/05/2024 19:13:57 2546240 Link