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Dála an scéil, is mór idir scéal na hiomána agus scéal an GAA!
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 14/05/2024 15:05:16 2544735 Link 0 |
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Galway playing in Leinster is pretty irrelevant to me at this stage. The only thing that annoyed me about it was some Galway supporters complaining about travelling to places that are closer to some parts of Galway than they are to me. Yes we would likely have won more had Galway not been in Leinster, but at the same time I've enjoyed all my trips up there. As regards feelings of superiority Galway posters have posted numerous times your view that you rate ourselves and Dublin as being inferior hurling counties or teams, or posts to that effect. Thats also annoying, patronising, and in the recent past just not true. It's not even true over the history of the GAA either. Finally I don't detest you. After Wexford and Limerick, Clare and Galway would be the next 2 of the top nine counties I'd like to see win things. And that's been the case since the early 90s. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 14/05/2024 15:19:35 2544742 Link 0 |
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Dublin need to beating teams other than Antrim and Galway, so he does have a point regarding our form.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 14/05/2024 15:20:44 2544744 Link 0 |
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You haven't lost to us since 2018
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 14/05/2024 16:06:24 2544764 Link 0 |
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You haven't lost to us since 2018"](Stop! I have him going here :-) )
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 14/05/2024 16:40:51 2544783 Link 0 |
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Ah come on. It is not patronising for Galway fans to suggest they should be beating Wexford or Dublin. Galway are in a different stage of development at this moment in time to both of those teams Do you think it's patronising for Limerick fans to say they should get out of Munster? Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 14/05/2024 16:56:52 2544785 Link 0 |
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Also Wexford just recently beat Galway in the hurling championship for the first time in over 25 years, so yes it has been true recently that Galway have been the better team Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 14/05/2024 16:59:48 2544786 Link 0 |
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I haven't given any view or rating here on either Dublin or Wexford, so I find it strange that you know my view better than myself! This talk of superiority from some Wexford posters is a reflection of their own mindsets. Historically ye were successful in Leinster, the second best team but then Offaly came along and took the wind out of your sails which didn't go down well with some of the traditionalists in your county. The Wexford attitude towards Galway for many years was very much a superior one, we were regarded as a Connacht team, without pedigree and of little significance. You still keep reminding us of the many All Irelands we lost as if we were suffering from dementia. Some of the Munster counties have a similar attitude. Galway and Antrim being in Leinster is not irrelevant. It's unfair to both the Leinster teams and the non-Leinster teams. Most Galway hurling people didn't agree with our county board, we wanted an open draw, non-provincial competition. We take no pleasure in taking a Leinster trophy off any Leinster county. I never agreed with it and I still don't! Sin sin anois! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 14/05/2024 17:33:21 2544792 Link 1 |
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You haven't lost to us since 2018"]I haven't given any view or rating here on either Dublin or Wexford, so I find it strange that you know my view better than myself! This talk of superiority from some Wexford posters is a reflection of their own mindsets. Historically ye were successful in Leinster, the second best team but then Offaly came along and took the wind out of your sails which didn't go down well with some of the traditionalists in your county. The Wexford attitude towards Galway for many years was very much a superior one, we were regarded as a Connacht team, without pedigree and of little significance. You still keep reminding us of the many All Irelands we lost as if we were suffering from dementia. Some of the Munster counties have a similar attitude. Galway and Antrim being in Leinster is not irrelevant. It's unfair to both the Leinster teams and the non-Leinster teams. Most Galway hurling people didn't agree with our county board, we wanted an open draw, non-provincial competition. We take no pleasure in taking a Leinster trophy off any Leinster county. I never agreed with it and I still don't! Sin sin anois! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 14/05/2024 17:42:35 2544794 Link 0 |
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Slagging one another is part of it all. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 14/05/2024 19:06:52 2544812 Link 0 |
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We've discussed at length in recent weeks how misleading that statistic actually is. Here's one.. Wexford are the only Liam McCarthy county with a 109% record in all Ireland finals in the last 30 years. I recognize that is a ridiculous statement. It's true. But totally meaningless. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3142 - 14/05/2024 19:09:13 2544814 Link 0 |
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It is fairly well leading that Galway have beaten or drawn with Wexford every time they have played since 1996 which is quite a few times! Would you see any papers declaring a Galway win over Wexford as a "famous win"? It is not patronising to suggest at this stage over the past few years Galway have been seen and see themselves as semi final > final contenders whereas Wexford and Dublin would class a semi-final or reaching the Leinster Final as a brilliant year. That's no disrespect to Wexford or Dublin but just the expectations and standing of those teams at the minute Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 15/05/2024 07:19:06 2544836 Link 0 |
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You haven't lost to us since 2018"]I haven't given any view or rating here on either Dublin or Wexford, so I find it strange that you know my view better than myself! This talk of superiority from some Wexford posters is a reflection of their own mindsets. Historically ye were successful in Leinster, the second best team but then Offaly came along and took the wind out of your sails which didn't go down well with some of the traditionalists in your county. The Wexford attitude towards Galway for many years was very much a superior one, we were regarded as a Connacht team, without pedigree and of little significance. You still keep reminding us of the many All Irelands we lost as if we were suffering from dementia. Some of the Munster counties have a similar attitude. Galway and Antrim being in Leinster is not irrelevant. It's unfair to both the Leinster teams and the non-Leinster teams. Most Galway hurling people didn't agree with our county board, we wanted an open draw, non-provincial competition. We take no pleasure in taking a Leinster trophy off any Leinster county. I never agreed with it and I still don't! Sin sin anois!"]I don't know what the Wexford attitude was pre 1990s but I do know that in the early 90s Galway and the big 3, Tipp, Cork, Kilkenny, were still the teams who had that bit of an aura after the late 80s. So I don't know what you mean by "without pedigree and of little significance". In 1991 in the 11 years previous you had reached 8 AI finals winning 3. Including what was by the standards of the day an absolute scorefest in 1990. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 15/05/2024 07:48:43 2544837 Link 0 |
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How come we have won a Leinster more recently than ye then? Our hope every year is to win Leinster and see where that takes us. With injuries, poor squad development, and some strange selection and set up decisions, coupled with an inability to consistently beat the tier 2 counties, it hasn't happened for us since 5 years ago now, but it's still the hope at the start of every year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 15/05/2024 08:05:55 2544839 Link 0 |
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I'd say winning Leinster would be a brilliant year for us. The final has been there for the taking the last three years but we've yet to manage it. More often than not we'd be a quarter final team really. Galway are obviously a semi final team considering that's when you entered the competition for a long time. We haven't played you that much in the championship up until recently. Admittedly there are a couple of very convincing Galway wins as well as a couple of draws. Truthfully, I'm irritated when we don't perform in the fixture. You've no more pedigree than we have. All of our problems are our own making. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3142 - 15/05/2024 09:16:02 2544849 Link 0 |
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No argument from me that Galway have underperformed in Leinster finals but they are there the majority of years, Wexford would classify getting to a Leinster final as a massive achievement and a great year, Galway would view that as the absolute bare minimum. That's just where they are at the moment. Again, I doubt any media would be labelling it a "famous win" had Galway beat Wexford last weekend, and that is just a reflection of where the two counties are https://www.the42.ie/wexford-galway-leinster-6371927-May2024/#:~:text=Galway%200%2D23&text=Wexford%20almost%20certainly%20required%20victory,first%20entered%20Leinster%20in%202009. Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 15/05/2024 09:29:57 2544852 Link 0 |
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Now that you have beaten Carlow and Antrim with your All Ireland winning manager sure beating the wounded cats and a west of Ireland team with illusions will be a piece of cake for ye!
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 15/05/2024 09:30:06 2544853 Link 0 |
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You come off as being objective but we absolutely would not classify qualifying for a Leinster final as a massive achievement. It is our ambition at the beginning of every season. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3142 - 15/05/2024 09:37:54 2544854 Link 0 |
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You haven't lost to us since 2018"]I haven't given any view or rating here on either Dublin or Wexford, so I find it strange that you know my view better than myself! This talk of superiority from some Wexford posters is a reflection of their own mindsets. Historically ye were successful in Leinster, the second best team but then Offaly came along and took the wind out of your sails which didn't go down well with some of the traditionalists in your county. The Wexford attitude towards Galway for many years was very much a superior one, we were regarded as a Connacht team, without pedigree and of little significance. You still keep reminding us of the many All Irelands we lost as if we were suffering from dementia. Some of the Munster counties have a similar attitude. Galway and Antrim being in Leinster is not irrelevant. It's unfair to both the Leinster teams and the non-Leinster teams. Most Galway hurling people didn't agree with our county board, we wanted an open draw, non-provincial competition. We take no pleasure in taking a Leinster trophy off any Leinster county. I never agreed with it and I still don't! Sin sin anois!"]I don't know what the Wexford attitude was pre 1990s but I do know that in the early 90s Galway and the big 3, Tipp, Cork, Kilkenny, were still the teams who had that bit of an aura after the late 80s. So I don't know what you mean by "without pedigree and of little significance". In 1991 in the 11 years previous you had reached 8 AI finals winning 3. Including what was by the standards of the day an absolute scorefest in 1990."]If you can't go back as far as 1897 you're waishtin your time lad! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 15/05/2024 09:39:27 2544855 Link 0 |
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Also I'm pretty sure the context of the word massive in that is twofold. One we'd just lost to Antrim so form says we'd no business winning. Two I think everyone including me was surprised at how dominant we were all over the pitch. I thought we would perform and have a good chance like most years. I didn't think we chew ye up and spit ye out which is what happened. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3142 - 15/05/2024 09:40:52 2544856 Link 0 |