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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Not intended to cause offence, but it's hard to articulate this without it seeming like an insult.

Galway have a huge amount of talent and some serious physical specimens. Statistically best equipped to match Limerick on a man on man level in my opinion.

A bit on the nose but Kilkenny just have more grit hence their better record.

Galway probably lacking in belief. While Kilkenny keep finding ways to win with what isn't a great team by their standards, while Galway, and even more so Wexford keep finding ways to lose."
No offence taken but using words like flakey about any hurling team including your own is disrespectful. Any hurler no matter which club or county he's from is brave and goes out to do his best. It's easier for a team that is successful, that has all the resources, a serious backroom team and the system in its favour to have belief, it's the team that goes out to do its level best, often against the odds that should be encouraged and supported. It takes a lot more than 'some serious physical specimens' to win an All Ireland.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 24/04/2024 09:29:47    2540342

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Replying To baire:  "I thought of Tipp but then poor ould Tony Keady came to mind...."
I meant as rivals with good teams! I'm sure plenty of lads in Galway will never forget the Keady affair!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 24/04/2024 10:32:08    2540363

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Replying To baire:  "I thought of Tipp but then poor ould Tony Keady came to mind...."
A fairly basic assessment to be honest.

Man for man in terms of height, weight, athleticism and indeed hurling although that part is more subjective.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3142 - 24/04/2024 10:36:50    2540364

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Replying To baire:  "No offence taken but using words like flakey about any hurling team including your own is disrespectful. Any hurler no matter which club or county he's from is brave and goes out to do his best. It's easier for a team that is successful, that has all the resources, a serious backroom team and the system in its favour to have belief, it's the team that goes out to do its level best, often against the odds that should be encouraged and supported. It takes a lot more than 'some serious physical specimens' to win an All Ireland."
We aren't talking about bravery. Tightness on account of nerves, dip in workrate, lack of concentration etc doesn't make a lad a bad hurler. Or not a physical specimen. These are all the small margins stuff. The great teams over the years have 15 -17 lads, or more likely 20-25 lads these days, who consistently get all those little things right over 75 minutes.
You can have great hurlers, who are physically very imposing, who aren't as effective at intercounty because they don't get those small things right consistently every game, and over 75 minutes in each game. I can think of one lad in particular who hurls for us. Its very frustrating to watch. And likely even more frustrating for him.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 24/04/2024 10:39:33    2540365

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Replying To Viking66:  "I meant as rivals with good teams! I'm sure plenty of lads in Galway will never forget the Keady affair!"
To be fair that was a very good Tipp team and they had some great battles with KK and ourselves. But if ever there was a flakey way to stop a team from winning three-in-row it happened in '89!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 24/04/2024 10:50:35    2540372

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Replying To baire:  "To be fair that was a very good Tipp team and they had some great battles with KK and ourselves. But if ever there was a flakey way to stop a team from winning three-in-row it happened in '89!"
How was it flakey. Tony Keady knew the rules and anyway if he got injured in the first Minute of a game Galway would have had to cope without him. Galway Officials, Team Management and the Galway Hurling Public handled that situation badly as Clare handled the Lynch Case in 98 and my own County handled a pitch issue way back in 1911. Three All Irelands were probably given away because adults in the Rooms did not come forward and talk sense.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4467 - 25/04/2024 09:21:33    2540550

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "How was it flakey. Tony Keady knew the rules and anyway if he got injured in the first Minute of a game Galway would have had to cope without him. Galway Officials, Team Management and the Galway Hurling Public handled that situation badly as Clare handled the Lynch Case in 98 and my own County handled a pitch issue way back in 1911. Three All Irelands were probably given away because adults in the Rooms did not come forward and talk sense."
I don't want to go over this again but I'll respond this once.
My initial comment on Keady was in jest.
You're right, Tony Keady broke a rule and the Galway management could have dealt with it differently, pity they couldn't employ a psychologist at the time! You're leaving out a lot of context, though, and forgetting the rivalry between Galway and Tipp. Many other hurlers broke the same rule but they were not reported, not ratted on by their biggest rival and main obstacle to winning an All Ireland. That caused a lot of hurt and emotion in Galway. They would have needed the best psychologist to deal with it.
There were many other aspects to that story that I won't go into in detail e.g a provincial council dominated by gaelic football and keen Galway rivals was given the power to decide the fate of a hurler, a hurler whose main interest and love in life at the time was to hurl. Those in power displayed very little emotional intelligence, empathy or sense of fair play. We'll leave it at that. It's history.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 25/04/2024 12:31:20    2540590

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Wouldn't surprise me to see Antrim pull one over on Wexford today!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2095 - 27/04/2024 14:06:56    2540885

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Is the dublin v carlow game available on any tv service

Goodstrike (Dublin) - Posts: 9 - 27/04/2024 15:58:39    2540916

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Congratulations Antrim on a fantastic win v Wexford!
If Antrim beat Dublin and Carlow they will most likely qualify from Leinster.
Last year I predicted Galway, Kilkenny and Antrim to qualify from Leinster!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2475 - 27/04/2024 16:34:58    2540928

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Magic stuff in Corrigan Pk.

Antrim get the win they thoroughly deserve.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13779 - 27/04/2024 16:55:13    2540950

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@MesAmis

Is the dublin v carliw match on any tv service

Goodstrike (Dublin) - Posts: 9 - 27/04/2024 17:49:32    2540971

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Replying To Goodstrike:  "@MesAmis

Is the dublin v carliw match on any tv service"
Not available.

Couldn't travel down myself so relying on updates from a few down at it!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13779 - 27/04/2024 18:09:31    2540976

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Unfortunately not. Ridiculous gaago at least couldn't have it. Their studio team looked like they were in nowlan Park for something, so they weren't even at corrigan Park for their live game

MLR (Carlow) - Posts: 77 - 27/04/2024 18:16:37    2540979

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Replying To baire:  "I don't want to go over this again but I'll respond this once.
My initial comment on Keady was in jest.
You're right, Tony Keady broke a rule and the Galway management could have dealt with it differently, pity they couldn't employ a psychologist at the time! You're leaving out a lot of context, though, and forgetting the rivalry between Galway and Tipp. Many other hurlers broke the same rule but they were not reported, not ratted on by their biggest rival and main obstacle to winning an All Ireland. That caused a lot of hurt and emotion in Galway. They would have needed the best psychologist to deal with it.
There were many other aspects to that story that I won't go into in detail e.g a provincial council dominated by gaelic football and keen Galway rivals was given the power to decide the fate of a hurler, a hurler whose main interest and love in life at the time was to hurl. Those in power displayed very little emotional intelligence, empathy or sense of fair play. We'll leave it at that. It's history."
"Not ratted on by their biggest rival"?? What exactly does that mean, baire? My recollection of that event is that Tipperary officials at central council spoke in favour of Keady and voted accordingly. Any Tipperary people I know wanted Keady's suspension lifted but Tipp were outvoted, as you correctly say, by "football counties". It's history for sure, so why drag it up again?

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 583 - 27/04/2024 18:26:14    2540982

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That's third place unless Cats don't bother again in last game against Wexford. Good solid performance from bad start and atrocious wides but miles off top teams.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 27/04/2024 20:01:10    2541005

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Wouldn't surprise me to see Antrim pull one over on Wexford today!"
Great call

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 27/04/2024 21:03:54    2541028

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Replying To midlands:  ""Not ratted on by their biggest rival"?? What exactly does that mean, baire? My recollection of that event is that Tipperary officials at central council spoke in favour of Keady and voted accordingly. Any Tipperary people I know wanted Keady's suspension lifted but Tipp were outvoted, as you correctly say, by "football counties". It's history for sure, so why drag it up again?"
It is history. Where did the initial objection to the late Tony Keady come from in 1989.? Somebody with a motive must have wanted him out of the Galway team going for 3 in a row. God rest the man. He was as fine a centre back as I ever saw play the game of hurling.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2300 - 27/04/2024 21:04:29    2541029

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "That's third place unless Cats don't bother again in last game against Wexford. Good solid performance from bad start and atrocious wides but miles off top teams."
Not if Antrim beat Dublin/Carlow and Dublin also lose to Kilkenny/Galway,

M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 465 - 27/04/2024 21:15:54    2541038

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "That's third place unless Cats don't bother again in last game against Wexford. Good solid performance from bad start and atrocious wides but miles off top teams."
Third place to Dublin? A bit cocky. Let's at least wait until 2 weeks time to see the outcome of Dublin v Antrim.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2654 - 27/04/2024 21:24:30    2541043

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