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Attendances 2024

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Like Down v Antrim and Armagh v Fermanagh?"
There are weak teams in all Provinces. Thats life. The draw left a lot of strong teams on one side.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 413 - 15/04/2024 10:00:07    2537924

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "What nonsense you spout. Attendances are year by year way up on 20 or 30 years ago. Do you even attend games?"
I do but you obviously don't… 8k at Monaghan v Cavan and 21k at Dublin v Meath… Attendances year on year a way up you say….what nonsense... Are you by any chance smoking something illegal…?

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3405 - 15/04/2024 10:08:27    2537932

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Eamon Fitzmaurice or Tomas O Shea (somebody from Kerry) and Colm O'Rourke have floated the idea
of playing provincials before the league. It needs to be looked at. Championship should be knock-out.
GAA has more groups than top of the pops.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1707 - 15/04/2024 10:34:10    2537944

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Eamon Fitzmaurice or Tomas O Shea (somebody from Kerry) and Colm O'Rourke have floated the idea
of playing provincials before the league. It needs to be looked at. Championship should be knock-out.
GAA has more groups than top of the pops."
What is the point of keeping them at all then? Will they not just be experimental teams and you then are just keeping them for the sake of it.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 15/04/2024 11:08:07    2537956

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Agreed but the population of Meath is greater than the population of Mayo and Roscommon combined. Never mind the additional 1.5 million people in Dublin. Brutal attendance for a championship game between these two teams.

Obviously Dublin have huge advantages, population, financial resources, huge back up staff with budget and expertise, recovery time for players (less travelling to/from training). Less financial resources spent on travelling expenses can be reallocated to other specific things. Dean Rock wrote this week about getting detailed individual (one to one) feedback from various coaches with video analysis on how to improve. This makes a difference in getting that 1% - 2% more out of yourself which also helps the team improve.

However Meath and Kildare with their resources should be doing much better. It is not only Dublins fault that the Leinster championship is a dead duck at the moment."
Mayo had a slightly bigger population than Meath when the counties faced off in the 1996 finals. Meath have had a massive influx of "new people" in the past 20 years mostly from Dublin. I can't understand why they aren't making hay with a bigger population. They certainly benefited from Mayo people moving there back in the day…atommy Dows, Robbie O Malley etc ;)

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11450 - 15/04/2024 11:30:50    2537970

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I thought Meath played some really good football at times yesterday. I think the problem is gaelic football is so controlled now. Once the gap went to 5 or 6 points it was game over. The days when a an underdog could come back with a few high balls into the square are gone.

Whatever rule changes are proposed I hope they introduce a degree of franticness back into the games. The controlled possession play has hugely increased the gap between the elite counties and the rest.

The attendance was particularly poor when you factor in a few thousand were there for the camogie and no show season ticket holders also counted.

The forgone conclusion certainly doesn't help draw a crowd but the GAA could take a look at Celtic and Rangers seem to be able to sell.

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Celtic seem to be able to bring 60k in to see their hero's every other week even though they are playing minnows like Ross county, Dundee. Even a cup game against non league Buckie Thistle brought 40k through the gate. Dubs used to have that sort of pull but they seem to have lost it. T

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 353 - 15/04/2024 13:03:32    2538030

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Anyone who thinks that Dublin's ridiculously expanding population is a benefit to the GAA - or indeed to anything else - clearly does not live nor know much about the place.

A Dublin match in Croke Park these days is little different in terms of supporters travelling in to it than people travelling from another county. GAA is in grave danger of losing any place in the lives of most Dublin communities outside of the more settled working class and middle class parts. Which is and will continue to impact on Dublin crowds.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3347 - 15/04/2024 13:05:14    2538034

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The camoige brought at least 3,000 so about 18,000 or 19,000 for Dublin v Meath - Leinster championship has been dieing this years -
It's not Dublins fault , but one would have to question Meath - what's going on …. Pairc Tailteann is probably the worst county ground - meath have a population of over 220,000

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1686 - 15/04/2024 13:14:53    2538040

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Replying To dahayeser:  "I thought Meath played some really good football at times yesterday. I think the problem is gaelic football is so controlled now. Once the gap went to 5 or 6 points it was game over. The days when a an underdog could come back with a few high balls into the square are gone.

Whatever rule changes are proposed I hope they introduce a degree of franticness back into the games. The controlled possession play has hugely increased the gap between the elite counties and the rest.

The attendance was particularly poor when you factor in a few thousand were there for the camogie and no show season ticket holders also counted.

The forgone conclusion certainly doesn't help draw a crowd but the GAA could take a look at Celtic and Rangers seem to be able to sell.

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Celtic seem to be able to bring 60k in to see their hero's every other week even though they are playing minnows like Ross county, Dundee. Even a cup game against non league Buckie Thistle brought 40k through the gate. Dubs used to have that sort of pull but they seem to have lost it. T"
Re the high ball days being gone. Nobody actually tries it anymore because there are no forwards hanging about the square, it isn't scientific enough for the nu-coaches. Cluxton doesn't have many weaknesses but I always thought he was a bit suspect under a high ball. Yet teams don't try it against him. If I was a manager I'd have two forwards laying eggs on his goal line and not budging.

eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 15/04/2024 13:45:01    2538059

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Replying To cuchulainn35:  "The camoige brought at least 3,000 so about 18,000 or 19,000 for Dublin v Meath - Leinster championship has been dieing this years -
It's not Dublins fault , but one would have to question Meath - what's going on …. Pairc Tailteann is probably the worst county ground - meath have a population of over 220,000"
While I think the facilities need to be upgraded which is the process of happening with a new stand in the pipeline, Pairc Taileteann was named GAA Pitch of the Year in 2021 and 2023, and was 2nd to Pairc Ui Caoimh in 2022. So it's clearly not "the worst county ground".

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 260 - 15/04/2024 14:10:14    2538078

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Eamon Fitzmaurice or Tomas O Shea (somebody from Kerry) and Colm O'Rourke have floated the idea
of playing provincials before the league. It needs to be looked at. Championship should be knock-out.
GAA has more groups than top of the pops."
Why does the championship have to be knockout and why do you have to play every competition to a conclusion before starting the next?

Why do provincials have to be playwd off before league.
That qould def kill them off

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3707 - 15/04/2024 14:56:59    2538102

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Replying To hyperache:  "While I think the facilities need to be upgraded which is the process of happening with a new stand in the pipeline, Pairc Taileteann was named GAA Pitch of the Year in 2021 and 2023, and was 2nd to Pairc Ui Caoimh in 2022. So it's clearly not "the worst county ground"."
All PT needs is a new main stand (with standard facilities) and floodlights.

Super pitch.
Huge terracing on the opposite side which is perfectly good.

And terracing could easily be put in, behind each goal after that.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 15/04/2024 15:29:41    2538117

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Replying To hyperache:  "While I think the facilities need to be upgraded which is the process of happening with a new stand in the pipeline, Pairc Taileteann was named GAA Pitch of the Year in 2021 and 2023, and was 2nd to Pairc Ui Caoimh in 2022. So it's clearly not "the worst county ground"."
Yes, it was named Pitch of the Year - i.e. the best playing surface.

It wasn't named Ground of the Year, or Stadium of the Year, or any other such title you'd like to put on it. In fairness, I don't think anybody would have it seriously in the running for that.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2675 - 15/04/2024 15:33:19    2538119

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Why does the championship have to be knockout and why do you have to play every competition to a conclusion before starting the next?

Why do provincials have to be playwd off before league.
That qould def kill them off"
The provincials are a dead duck and need energising.Only Ulster exciting and Connaught to a much lesser degree.The Munster hurling championship is good and Leinster hurling has improved since Galway joined.Theirin lies the solution for the football if people want to keep the provincials.Maybe move counties to other provinces.I mean in Leinstee hurling Galway Antrim and even Kerry have competed in it.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 15/04/2024 15:40:56    2538124

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Move Dublin to either Munster or Connacht.

centrefield99 (Galway) - Posts: 138 - 16/04/2024 07:24:54    2538229

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Replying To hyperache:  "While I think the facilities need to be upgraded which is the process of happening with a new stand in the pipeline, Pairc Taileteann was named GAA Pitch of the Year in 2021 and 2023, and was 2nd to Pairc Ui Caoimh in 2022. So it's clearly not "the worst county ground"."
It's the second worst county ground . Pitch and ground are different and for the help of god - how did they ever get that award .
What other county grounds have a grass bank - for players abs spectators it's not only dated it's beyond the sell by date …
One could argue the ground has nothing to do with the team - but there appears no ambition with the ground and the team .
Armagh played meath in the league and in my opinion they were the second worst team in the league ..
We all need a strong meath - not just in meath or Leinster - thecGAA needs a strong Meath

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1686 - 16/04/2024 10:50:06    2538293

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Southern people don't have a emotional connection to their province anyway. With our history in Ulster and how we have always been unique means Ulster means more to us.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 253 - 17/04/2024 11:57:41    2538557

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Southern people don't have a emotional connection to their province anyway. With our history in Ulster and how we have always been unique means Ulster means more to us."
'Southern'?

Leitrim is further north than some areas of Ulster.

eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 17/04/2024 13:02:43    2538581

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Southern people don't have a emotional connection to their province anyway. With our history in Ulster and how we have always been unique means Ulster means more to us."
That's bull

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11450 - 17/04/2024 13:17:51    2538588

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Southern people don't have a emotional connection to their province anyway. With our history in Ulster and how we have always been unique means Ulster means more to us."
I don't think that is true at all.

Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 210 - 17/04/2024 13:22:15    2538590

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