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I'm sure the GAA have improved in recording how many people are inside in the ground in case anything happened,you wouldnt want a fire god forbid at a match with an official attendance of 1,000 and then 2,000 people getting injured. The GAA were always good at showing attendance figures that were lower than what was actually at the match , whereas other sports were bumping up attendance figures by including all season ticket holders even if many werent there. OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 725 - 07/02/2024 13:02:17 2524915 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Noticed in Nowlan Park that the 4 kids were asked to go through a side entrance/corridor beside the turnstiles and not through the turnstile?" Strange. I know that in Wexford Park anyway, children go through the regular turnstiles, and are counted the same as anyone else. I know for example that for the football match v London last year (first football match under lights, just a week after the opening night v Kilkenny in hurling), the official attendance was just under 3,000 but there was only about 1,600 tickets sold. The difference in numbers was the children coming in without a ticket but being counted as they passed through the stiles anyway. Speculating here, but maybe if a venue is admitting children without counting them, it might be some sort of exercise to see how many tickets are actually used so far out of all tickets sold or season tickets held. That would give them an idea of how many more people are still likely to turn up. Still, to the best of my knowledge, children are supposed to be counted. Of course, it doesn't follow that everywhere actually does it, or not all the time anyway. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2672 - 07/02/2024 13:40:51 2524925 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "They're just waved through. I believe they only need a ticket for Croke Park games or if a game needs to be all ticket e.g Derry v Tyrone. There were around 9k in the Hyde but official was 6,128." Official from MacHale Park was just under 15,000…if you count u16s then you'd imagine there was about 18-19000 at the game but it didn't look like that…maybe I'm wrong. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11449 - 07/02/2024 13:54:09 2524929 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Yes, every click of a turnstile is recorded by the counting machines at county grounds. They make no distinction between whether the person going through has an "ordinary" ticket, a season ticket, some other sort of pass, or even no ticket at all (i.e. U16s). In relation to the figures above from Roscommon - it's often the case that people overestimate the size of a crowd when they're just going by eye and guesswork. A stand or terrace might look full if viewed from a distance, but what you don't see from a distance is the space between people there. Example - main stand in Wexford Park is currently having bucket seats installed, but up to now, has just had wooden benches. It's officially rated to hold about 4,500 but can look "full" with just 3,500 or even less in it, because what you don't see are spaces between groups of people, or how people are not sitting as tightly together as they could do." That's what I thought. Every turn of the gate records a number. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11449 - 07/02/2024 13:55:31 2524930 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Strange. I know that in Wexford Park anyway, children go through the regular turnstiles, and are counted the same as anyone else. I know for example that for the football match v London last year (first football match under lights, just a week after the opening night v Kilkenny in hurling), the official attendance was just under 3,000 but there was only about 1,600 tickets sold. The difference in numbers was the children coming in without a ticket but being counted as they passed through the stiles anyway. Speculating here, but maybe if a venue is admitting children without counting them, it might be some sort of exercise to see how many tickets are actually used so far out of all tickets sold or season tickets held. That would give them an idea of how many more people are still likely to turn up. Still, to the best of my knowledge, children are supposed to be counted. Of course, it doesn't follow that everywhere actually does it, or not all the time anyway." Kids went through the turnstiles for the Laois game. And the Kildare game. And the Carlow game. Also in Carlow. No turnstiles in Callan. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14471 - 07/02/2024 14:11:23 2524933 Link
Replying To OpenStand: "I'm sure the GAA have improved in recording how many people are inside in the ground in case anything happened,you wouldnt want a fire god forbid at a match with an official attendance of 1,000 and then 2,000 people getting injured. The GAA were always good at showing attendance figures that were lower than what was actually at the match , whereas other sports were bumping up attendance figures by including all season ticket holders even if many werent there." Yeah, it's a health & safety thing as much as anything else. Say something happened and you had to evacuate a ground or a stand. You'd want to know "we need to move 10,000 people out of here", not "we need to move 6,000 adults and an unknown number of children, which could be anywhere from probably about 3,000 to 5,000". Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2672 - 07/02/2024 14:24:45 2524939 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "If they go through an ordinary turnstile, they're recorded in the same way as every other person passing through that turnstile. The gateperson doesn't have a special button or pedal to press to say "don't count this one, it's only a child". However, has been many years since I was at a match in Dr Hyde Park, and I wouldn't have had a child with me at the time. Is it the case that U16s are admitted through a separate gate there, that doesn't have a stile?" I haven't gone through a turnstile in the Hyde in years. Always through a gate, man with mobile scans the ticket on my phone but waves the kids through the gateway Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2052 - 07/02/2024 15:06:12 2524951 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "I haven't gone through a turnstile in the Hyde in years. Always through a gate, man with mobile scans the ticket on my phone but waves the kids through the gateway" That would explain why children aren't counted in the official attendance there, then. I honestly thought every county ground had to have a turnstile & counter system like the one that's operated in Wexford Park. But I must be wrong, if Roscommon are doing things differently. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2672 - 07/02/2024 16:10:01 2524981 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "That would explain why children aren't counted in the official attendance there, then. I honestly thought every county ground had to have a turnstile & counter system like the one that's operated in Wexford Park. But I must be wrong, if Roscommon are doing things differently." Attendances = Paid attendees. ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 414 - 07/02/2024 17:34:28 2524997 Link
Replying To ORIELMAN85: "Attendances = Paid attendees." I bring the kids to Cusack when the local championship derby is on….. I buy 3 tickets, the gatekeeper puts the foot on the turnstile release and keeps it there for the 3 of us……so it's not an accurate count as the tickets are for 2 adults and 1 u16. ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 241 - 07/02/2024 17:58:51 2525005 Link
Replying To ORIELMAN85: "Attendances = Paid attendees." Hmmmm. So if there's a match on where there's no entry fee, and 500 people turn up to watch it, the attendance is zero? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2672 - 07/02/2024 18:04:42 2525007 Link
Replying To ORIELMAN85: "Attendances = Paid attendees." Ridiculous in this day and age that the gaa cant officially announce true attendances. Theyd need to know how many are in grounds for risk/h and s reasons anyway KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3707 - 07/02/2024 19:39:45 2525015 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Hmmmm. So if there's a match on where there's no entry fee, and 500 people turn up to watch it, the attendance is zero?" Ah cop on or do I have to spell it out to you. The announced attendance is the number of tickets paid for online. ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 414 - 08/02/2024 00:07:57 2525048 Link
Replying To ORIELMAN85: "Ah cop on or do I have to spell it out to you. The announced attendance is the number of tickets paid for online." Again, hmmmm. So it wouldn't include season ticket holders, who haven't bought a ticket specifically for that match, and who may or may not turn up? It wouldn't include any of a county's sponsors who get passes for matches as part of their commercial deal? Croke Park issues a number of League passes to each county. Here in Wexford, they're mostly given to players, for them to pass on to family members or somebody else. It wouldn't include anybody coming in on these passes either? Look, I know for a fact that the attendances in Wexford Park includes all who come through the stiles, whether they come in on an ordinary ticket, or on some sort of a pass, or whether they're an U16 who doesn't need a ticket at all. As stated, I believe this is how it's supposed to operate in all county grounds. Seems that some places may not operate that way, but it's not as clearcut as you make out. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2672 - 08/02/2024 09:24:04 2525058 Link
i haven't been yet as I don't wish to pay £18 to watch National League match. I will maybe wait to the National League final. It would cost over £80 for trip to Croke Park so I am not forking out for the other league games which are essentially glorified challenge matches. PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 253 - 08/02/2024 19:50:01 2525155 Link
Replying To PattyONeill: "i haven't been yet as I don't wish to pay £18 to watch National League match. I will maybe wait to the National League final. It would cost over £80 for trip to Croke Park so I am not forking out for the other league games which are essentially glorified challenge matches." If you want ro compete with other sports for media etc and want to complain about media coverage of other sports then people really need to stop referring to league games as glorified friendlies. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3707 - 08/02/2024 20:03:33 2525157 Link
Replying To PattyONeill: "i haven't been yet as I don't wish to pay £18 to watch National League match. I will maybe wait to the National League final. It would cost over £80 for trip to Croke Park so I am not forking out for the other league games which are essentially glorified challenge matches." Last of the diehard supporters! Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2052 - 08/02/2024 20:20:01 2525158 Link
Replying To PattyONeill: "i haven't been yet as I don't wish to pay £18 to watch National League match. I will maybe wait to the National League final. It would cost over £80 for trip to Croke Park so I am not forking out for the other league games which are essentially glorified challenge matches." Derry back in Div 1 for the first time in a number of years I can imagine has drawn a big interest among their supporters and is options to save money with a season ticket or purchased a 4 or 7 game NFL package which would be cheaper than 18 sterling/20 euro per game Pre season such as the McKenna is essentially glorified challenge matches not the NFL that is connected to the championship and with the provincial championship up and running directly after the league finishes the league teams aren't going to change their style of play/tactics or personal too much. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3936 - 09/02/2024 17:28:30 2525256 Link
That looked like a huge crowd on PUC. Must have been close to 20,000? So much for all the naysayers! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3346 - 10/02/2024 22:30:14 2525396 Link
Cork v Kilkenny hurling 16,274 , that's a big crowd for a league game OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 725 - 10/02/2024 22:35:48 2525397 Link