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Replying To KillingFields: "Never said pres and christians were no longer strong rugby schools but its very clear that rugby is growing far more in clubs if you look at numbers playing the sport and far more coming throigh to pro rugby from club not school backgrounds.
The coombes arent brothers. And both didnt go to bandon grammar. Wycherlys only went to roscrea for senior cycle." OK… Coombes are cousins from Skibbereen. Gavin went to Bandon Grammar and Liam went to CBS. Liam's sister Gillian is also a Munster player.Conveyor belt from rugby schools is never ending. Thomas Ahern from Waterford is an exciting prospect from a GAA family. Played for St Augustines College in Waterford, then UL, and now Munster. Jack Crowley's aunt won a number of all Ireland's playing camogie, Jack attended Bandon Grammar,so the rugby culture is growing fast.
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Replying To Ryanteam: "OK… Coombes are cousins from Skibbereen. Gavin went to Bandon Grammar and Liam went to CBS. Liam's sister Gillian is also a Munster player.Conveyor belt from rugby schools is never ending. Thomas Ahern from Waterford is an exciting prospect from a GAA family. Played for St Augustines College in Waterford, then UL, and now Munster. Jack Crowley's aunt won a number of all Ireland's playing camogie, Jack attended Bandon Grammar,so the rugby culture is growing fast." Tom ahern didnt really play rugby much in school. It was in youghal then dungarvan then waterpark before he joined academy and played ail efc
Rugby culture has always bwen strong in many areas of munster.
Some of the oldest clubs in country are provincial town clubs like bandon, nenagh, clanwilliam
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 05/02/2024 18:36:10
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Replying To KillingFields: "Tom ahern didnt really play rugby much in school. It was in youghal then dungarvan then waterpark before he joined academy and played ail efc
Rugby culture has always bwen strong in many areas of munster.
Some of the oldest clubs in country are provincial town clubs like bandon, nenagh, clanwilliam" I feel that the Munster academy for example is huge. Recruiting Cork hurling stars like Ben O' Connor from St Finbarrs and Darren Sweetnam , has put rugby in the public eye. The fact that Munster and especially Leinster compete and dominate in a professional league has attracted untold numbers to the sport. John Hodnett from Clonakilty RFC is another example.., in years past West Cork was primarily a Gaelic football stronghold. As Bob Dylan sang "The times they are a changing " Connacht and Ulster's contributions will keep Ireland at the top table for years to come… World Cup win in inevitable
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 373 - 05/02/2024 19:18:25
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Replying To Ryanteam: "I feel that the Munster academy for example is huge. Recruiting Cork hurling stars like Ben O' Connor from St Finbarrs and Darren Sweetnam , has put rugby in the public eye. The fact that Munster and especially Leinster compete and dominate in a professional league has attracted untold numbers to the sport. John Hodnett from Clonakilty RFC is another example.., in years past West Cork was primarily a Gaelic football stronghold. As Bob Dylan sang "The times they are a changing " Connacht and Ulster's contributions will keep Ireland at the top table for years to come… World Cup win in inevitable" Ben o connor and darren sweetnam were involved in munster underage squads all the way up as well as hurling.
Rugby turning pro has helped it hugely but its more that the underage coaching has become better in clubs and that has knoxk on effect to adult and the top levels of the game...
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 05/02/2024 21:51:03
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Replying To Ryanteam: "When they do go down the park, it will be primarily to a Munster rugby game, or some concert. Attendances at Cork hurling club finals has dropped from over 30 K in 1970's to 10K in 2023. Football is even worse, and lucky if they attract 2K to a league game. GAA interest in the city has waned, and Glen Rovers and Na Piarsaigh are no longer in premier club championship. Luckily, hurling has stayed strong in the rural areas.Rugby is growing in popularity, and approx 11 of Munster's starting 15 are from Cork and I foresee some international 6nations games being held in Cork in future. The inter county hurling team can still draw big crowds, this year's games against Limerick and Clare in particular,and the stadium's name will not make one iota of difference.Rugby is well organized in the schools, is professional, and can only gain in popularity!" I wouldn't be as pessimistic about hurling or indeed football in Cork City. The standard or hurling has risen at adult level massively since I played 20 years ago. Underage numbers are way up. Look at the numbers Douglas and Bishopstown are togging at underage compared to 20 years ago. It is through the roof. Rockies & Douglas fielding 4 adult hurling teams. Nemo, Douglas, Bishopstown fielding 4 or 5 adult football teams each. Glen and Na Piarsaigh don't have a lot of new families in their areas so natural that they might come down a bit. Glen flying at underage though. They will be back.
Sure there are smaller clubs struggling, parents tend to gravitate towards big clubs and facilities nowadays all in all playing numbers are decent but great work going on in the likes of Dillons and Mayfield at underage. Underage numbers in general dwarf anything Con or any of the Rugby clubs have.
GAA league attendances were generally 2 or 3k 20-30 years ago across all counties. They are massively up now with many Counties including Cork hurlers bringing in 5 figure crowds.
The Munster hurling championship brings huge crowds for all games not the case in the past. Cork footballers have never drawn crowds I'll grant you that and the are one of the few that haven't been lifted by the rising tide. Dublin Hurlers don't catch the imagination up there either.
Munster rugby have their ups and downs too. They could have sold Thomond twice for most Heineken cup games 20 years ago. Now they rarely fill it. They give an attendance of 13 to 15k for all league games. Some are lucky to have 5 or 6k bums on seats but they count all season ticket holders in every league attendance and sell 10 to 12k season tickets per year (fair play to them on that). Since the advent of pro rugby, there isn't a sinner at AIL games so while they have gained on one hand they have lost on another.
What rugby are brilliant at and the GAA red raw useless at is selling events. Munster seconds vs South Africa seconds / thirds, this wasn't the best of each going head to head but nobody cared. Great night out for the wife and kids or with the lads for a few beers. Munster mostly seconds vs Crusaders sold brilliantly again. Clash of the champions. I see way bigger crowds for well marketed events than critical league games.
200,000 EUR for Cork GAA for each Munster game. Small money for thousands of kids associating the Park with their rugby heros instead of GAA heros. Stadium available at zero risk for Munster. No debt to contend with, use it when they have a guarantee full house.
Cork had 20k crowd for the visit of Limerick in the League last year with zero hype. How difficult would it be to take a leaf out of rugby's book and promote the hell out of a fixture like that and edge it up towards a full house you'd wonder.
Next year if Cork end up in division 1 hurling they will have games against 3 top teams at the Pairc. They should be aiming to fill it for all 3. Call it the spring series like the Dubs do and push family tickets hard for christmas. Will they do it? I'd be shocked if they did. You'd have to go out of your way to find out that the Cats are coming to town next Saturday, probably the 3rd most attractive game we'll have at the park in 2024 and barely a word about it.
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Replying To dahayeser: "I wouldn't be as pessimistic about hurling or indeed football in Cork City. The standard or hurling has risen at adult level massively since I played 20 years ago. Underage numbers are way up. Look at the numbers Douglas and Bishopstown are togging at underage compared to 20 years ago. It is through the roof. Rockies & Douglas fielding 4 adult hurling teams. Nemo, Douglas, Bishopstown fielding 4 or 5 adult football teams each. Glen and Na Piarsaigh don't have a lot of new families in their areas so natural that they might come down a bit. Glen flying at underage though. They will be back.
Sure there are smaller clubs struggling, parents tend to gravitate towards big clubs and facilities nowadays all in all playing numbers are decent but great work going on in the likes of Dillons and Mayfield at underage. Underage numbers in general dwarf anything Con or any of the Rugby clubs have.
GAA league attendances were generally 2 or 3k 20-30 years ago across all counties. They are massively up now with many Counties including Cork hurlers bringing in 5 figure crowds.
The Munster hurling championship brings huge crowds for all games not the case in the past. Cork footballers have never drawn crowds I'll grant you that and the are one of the few that haven't been lifted by the rising tide. Dublin Hurlers don't catch the imagination up there either.
Munster rugby have their ups and downs too. They could have sold Thomond twice for most Heineken cup games 20 years ago. Now they rarely fill it. They give an attendance of 13 to 15k for all league games. Some are lucky to have 5 or 6k bums on seats but they count all season ticket holders in every league attendance and sell 10 to 12k season tickets per year (fair play to them on that). Since the advent of pro rugby, there isn't a sinner at AIL games so while they have gained on one hand they have lost on another.
What rugby are brilliant at and the GAA red raw useless at is selling events. Munster seconds vs South Africa seconds / thirds, this wasn't the best of each going head to head but nobody cared. Great night out for the wife and kids or with the lads for a few beers. Munster mostly seconds vs Crusaders sold brilliantly again. Clash of the champions. I see way bigger crowds for well marketed events than critical league games.
200,000 EUR for Cork GAA for each Munster game. Small money for thousands of kids associating the Park with their rugby heros instead of GAA heros. Stadium available at zero risk for Munster. No debt to contend with, use it when they have a guarantee full house.
Cork had 20k crowd for the visit of Limerick in the League last year with zero hype. How difficult would it be to take a leaf out of rugby's book and promote the hell out of a fixture like that and edge it up towards a full house you'd wonder.
Next year if Cork end up in division 1 hurling they will have games against 3 top teams at the Pairc. They should be aiming to fill it for all 3. Call it the spring series like the Dubs do and push family tickets hard for christmas. Will they do it? I'd be shocked if they did. You'd have to go out of your way to find out that the Cats are coming to town next Saturday, probably the 3rd most attractive game we'll have at the park in 2024 and barely a word about it." You'd be forgiven for thinking that the GAA want to keep their games hidden with the lack of promotion of games.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1952 - 06/02/2024 11:29:00
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Replying To dahayeser: "I wouldn't be as pessimistic about hurling or indeed football in Cork City. The standard or hurling has risen at adult level massively since I played 20 years ago. Underage numbers are way up. Look at the numbers Douglas and Bishopstown are togging at underage compared to 20 years ago. It is through the roof. Rockies & Douglas fielding 4 adult hurling teams. Nemo, Douglas, Bishopstown fielding 4 or 5 adult football teams each. Glen and Na Piarsaigh don't have a lot of new families in their areas so natural that they might come down a bit. Glen flying at underage though. They will be back.
Sure there are smaller clubs struggling, parents tend to gravitate towards big clubs and facilities nowadays all in all playing numbers are decent but great work going on in the likes of Dillons and Mayfield at underage. Underage numbers in general dwarf anything Con or any of the Rugby clubs have.
GAA league attendances were generally 2 or 3k 20-30 years ago across all counties. They are massively up now with many Counties including Cork hurlers bringing in 5 figure crowds.
The Munster hurling championship brings huge crowds for all games not the case in the past. Cork footballers have never drawn crowds I'll grant you that and the are one of the few that haven't been lifted by the rising tide. Dublin Hurlers don't catch the imagination up there either.
Munster rugby have their ups and downs too. They could have sold Thomond twice for most Heineken cup games 20 years ago. Now they rarely fill it. They give an attendance of 13 to 15k for all league games. Some are lucky to have 5 or 6k bums on seats but they count all season ticket holders in every league attendance and sell 10 to 12k season tickets per year (fair play to them on that). Since the advent of pro rugby, there isn't a sinner at AIL games so while they have gained on one hand they have lost on another.
What rugby are brilliant at and the GAA red raw useless at is selling events. Munster seconds vs South Africa seconds / thirds, this wasn't the best of each going head to head but nobody cared. Great night out for the wife and kids or with the lads for a few beers. Munster mostly seconds vs Crusaders sold brilliantly again. Clash of the champions. I see way bigger crowds for well marketed events than critical league games.
200,000 EUR for Cork GAA for each Munster game. Small money for thousands of kids associating the Park with their rugby heros instead of GAA heros. Stadium available at zero risk for Munster. No debt to contend with, use it when they have a guarantee full house.
Cork had 20k crowd for the visit of Limerick in the League last year with zero hype. How difficult would it be to take a leaf out of rugby's book and promote the hell out of a fixture like that and edge it up towards a full house you'd wonder.
Next year if Cork end up in division 1 hurling they will have games against 3 top teams at the Pairc. They should be aiming to fill it for all 3. Call it the spring series like the Dubs do and push family tickets hard for christmas. Will they do it? I'd be shocked if they did. You'd have to go out of your way to find out that the Cats are coming to town next Saturday, probably the 3rd most attractive game we'll have at the park in 2024 and barely a word about it." That's a very good point.
They did a super job promoting the official switching on of the floodlights down here and sold out for a Walsh cup game in Jan.
Granted we were playing the old enemy
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Replying To Ryanteam: "I feel that the Munster academy for example is huge. Recruiting Cork hurling stars like Ben O' Connor from St Finbarrs and Darren Sweetnam , has put rugby in the public eye. The fact that Munster and especially Leinster compete and dominate in a professional league has attracted untold numbers to the sport. John Hodnett from Clonakilty RFC is another example.., in years past West Cork was primarily a Gaelic football stronghold. As Bob Dylan sang "The times they are a changing " Connacht and Ulster's contributions will keep Ireland at the top table for years to come… World Cup win in inevitable" I could name a string of potentially good Footballers and Hurlers in Limerick that were 'lost' to rugby. Names Like Philip Danaher, Jeremy Staunton, Dan Larkin, Conor Murry and a young red haired O'Connor fellow from Fr Caseys, who looked the makings of a great forward in his few Championship outings with Limerick, all come to mind. However, it is the same story with every county and not just Cork and Limerick.
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Replying To dahayeser: "I wouldn't be as pessimistic about hurling or indeed football in Cork City. The standard or hurling has risen at adult level massively since I played 20 years ago. Underage numbers are way up. Look at the numbers Douglas and Bishopstown are togging at underage compared to 20 years ago. It is through the roof. Rockies & Douglas fielding 4 adult hurling teams. Nemo, Douglas, Bishopstown fielding 4 or 5 adult football teams each. Glen and Na Piarsaigh don't have a lot of new families in their areas so natural that they might come down a bit. Glen flying at underage though. They will be back.
Sure there are smaller clubs struggling, parents tend to gravitate towards big clubs and facilities nowadays all in all playing numbers are decent but great work going on in the likes of Dillons and Mayfield at underage. Underage numbers in general dwarf anything Con or any of the Rugby clubs have.
GAA league attendances were generally 2 or 3k 20-30 years ago across all counties. They are massively up now with many Counties including Cork hurlers bringing in 5 figure crowds.
The Munster hurling championship brings huge crowds for all games not the case in the past. Cork footballers have never drawn crowds I'll grant you that and the are one of the few that haven't been lifted by the rising tide. Dublin Hurlers don't catch the imagination up there either.
Munster rugby have their ups and downs too. They could have sold Thomond twice for most Heineken cup games 20 years ago. Now they rarely fill it. They give an attendance of 13 to 15k for all league games. Some are lucky to have 5 or 6k bums on seats but they count all season ticket holders in every league attendance and sell 10 to 12k season tickets per year (fair play to them on that). Since the advent of pro rugby, there isn't a sinner at AIL games so while they have gained on one hand they have lost on another.
What rugby are brilliant at and the GAA red raw useless at is selling events. Munster seconds vs South Africa seconds / thirds, this wasn't the best of each going head to head but nobody cared. Great night out for the wife and kids or with the lads for a few beers. Munster mostly seconds vs Crusaders sold brilliantly again. Clash of the champions. I see way bigger crowds for well marketed events than critical league games.
200,000 EUR for Cork GAA for each Munster game. Small money for thousands of kids associating the Park with their rugby heros instead of GAA heros. Stadium available at zero risk for Munster. No debt to contend with, use it when they have a guarantee full house.
Cork had 20k crowd for the visit of Limerick in the League last year with zero hype. How difficult would it be to take a leaf out of rugby's book and promote the hell out of a fixture like that and edge it up towards a full house you'd wonder.
Next year if Cork end up in division 1 hurling they will have games against 3 top teams at the Pairc. They should be aiming to fill it for all 3. Call it the spring series like the Dubs do and push family tickets hard for christmas. Will they do it? I'd be shocked if they did. You'd have to go out of your way to find out that the Cats are coming to town next Saturday, probably the 3rd most attractive game we'll have at the park in 2024 and barely a word about it." At work so dont have time to comment properly. Will try later but a fair bit wrong with this on rugby especially the bits about ail and zero risk for munster in playing in pairc.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 06/02/2024 13:43:30
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Replying To Oldtourman: "I could name a string of potentially good Footballers and Hurlers in Limerick that were 'lost' to rugby. Names Like Philip Danaher, Jeremy Staunton, Dan Larkin, Conor Murry and a young red haired O'Connor fellow from Fr Caseys, who looked the makings of a great forward in his few Championship outings with Limerick, all come to mind. However, it is the same story with every county and not just Cork and Limerick." Yes I agree. It's actually good that kids have more of a choice of what to play nowadays than in the past. The allure of rugby is huge as it's international, and above all professional. It's extremely well organized and Ireland despite a small playing population are competing well on world stage. Long May it continue!
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 373 - 06/02/2024 13:43:43
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Replying To dahayeser: "I wouldn't be as pessimistic about hurling or indeed football in Cork City. The standard or hurling has risen at adult level massively since I played 20 years ago. Underage numbers are way up. Look at the numbers Douglas and Bishopstown are togging at underage compared to 20 years ago. It is through the roof. Rockies & Douglas fielding 4 adult hurling teams. Nemo, Douglas, Bishopstown fielding 4 or 5 adult football teams each. Glen and Na Piarsaigh don't have a lot of new families in their areas so natural that they might come down a bit. Glen flying at underage though. They will be back.
Sure there are smaller clubs struggling, parents tend to gravitate towards big clubs and facilities nowadays all in all playing numbers are decent but great work going on in the likes of Dillons and Mayfield at underage. Underage numbers in general dwarf anything Con or any of the Rugby clubs have.
GAA league attendances were generally 2 or 3k 20-30 years ago across all counties. They are massively up now with many Counties including Cork hurlers bringing in 5 figure crowds.
The Munster hurling championship brings huge crowds for all games not the case in the past. Cork footballers have never drawn crowds I'll grant you that and the are one of the few that haven't been lifted by the rising tide. Dublin Hurlers don't catch the imagination up there either.
Munster rugby have their ups and downs too. They could have sold Thomond twice for most Heineken cup games 20 years ago. Now they rarely fill it. They give an attendance of 13 to 15k for all league games. Some are lucky to have 5 or 6k bums on seats but they count all season ticket holders in every league attendance and sell 10 to 12k season tickets per year (fair play to them on that). Since the advent of pro rugby, there isn't a sinner at AIL games so while they have gained on one hand they have lost on another.
What rugby are brilliant at and the GAA red raw useless at is selling events. Munster seconds vs South Africa seconds / thirds, this wasn't the best of each going head to head but nobody cared. Great night out for the wife and kids or with the lads for a few beers. Munster mostly seconds vs Crusaders sold brilliantly again. Clash of the champions. I see way bigger crowds for well marketed events than critical league games.
200,000 EUR for Cork GAA for each Munster game. Small money for thousands of kids associating the Park with their rugby heros instead of GAA heros. Stadium available at zero risk for Munster. No debt to contend with, use it when they have a guarantee full house.
Cork had 20k crowd for the visit of Limerick in the League last year with zero hype. How difficult would it be to take a leaf out of rugby's book and promote the hell out of a fixture like that and edge it up towards a full house you'd wonder.
Next year if Cork end up in division 1 hurling they will have games against 3 top teams at the Pairc. They should be aiming to fill it for all 3. Call it the spring series like the Dubs do and push family tickets hard for christmas. Will they do it? I'd be shocked if they did. You'd have to go out of your way to find out that the Cats are coming to town next Saturday, probably the 3rd most attractive game we'll have at the park in 2024 and barely a word about it." True… not a word about Kilkenny coming but it should draw 10K. Cavan are coming the following week,and it's entirely possible that Cavan support might outnumber the rebels! Ha ha. Gaelic football is probably behind soccer and rugby in the city now. Either way, hurling is well supported… at least for championship games. Get some of their injury issues corrected, and we may have a shot… Coleman, Connolly, Dalton, Cunningham, Downey, Fitzgibbon, Power, O' Mahony…all injured. Crazy stuff!
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 373 - 06/02/2024 13:57:39
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Replying To Ryanteam: "True… not a word about Kilkenny coming but it should draw 10K. Cavan are coming the following week,and it's entirely possible that Cavan support might outnumber the rebels! Ha ha. Gaelic football is probably behind soccer and rugby in the city now. Either way, hurling is well supported… at least for championship games. Get some of their injury issues corrected, and we may have a shot… Coleman, Connolly, Dalton, Cunningham, Downey, Fitzgibbon, Power, O' Mahony…all injured. Crazy stuff!" Football would be miles ahead of rugby in Cork City in terms of playing numbers. Rugby definitely on the up but a lot of parents do seem concerned about the safety aspect. I think that impacts rugby's numbers.
In terms of people talk about rugby would be right up there. A good cohort of parents mightn't want their kids playing it but the enjoy it as a spectator sport. Rarely would you find lads discussing Cork footballers while big Munster and Ireland games would get a good airing.
Gaelic football takes a hammering in the media and Cork under achieving has had a negative impact too but there is a good tradition of football in the city so it is still doing well in a player participation capacity. LGFA, Mums and others growing too which all help it hold on to it's foothold.
Soccer miles ahead of everything at the young ages from a participation point of view in Cork City.
dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 353 - 06/02/2024 17:19:15
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Replying To dahayeser: "Football would be miles ahead of rugby in Cork City in terms of playing numbers. Rugby definitely on the up but a lot of parents do seem concerned about the safety aspect. I think that impacts rugby's numbers.
In terms of people talk about rugby would be right up there. A good cohort of parents mightn't want their kids playing it but the enjoy it as a spectator sport. Rarely would you find lads discussing Cork footballers while big Munster and Ireland games would get a good airing.
Gaelic football takes a hammering in the media and Cork under achieving has had a negative impact too but there is a good tradition of football in the city so it is still doing well in a player participation capacity. LGFA, Mums and others growing too which all help it hold on to it's foothold.
Soccer miles ahead of everything at the young ages from a participation point of view in Cork City." Soccer is like the crap people watch on TV and listen to as "music."
Lowest common denominator. Always bound to win as Irish people give up on our own traditions and other "cultures" become dominant.
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Soccer is like the crap people watch on TV and listen to as "music."
Lowest common denominator. Always bound to win as Irish people give up on our own traditions and other "cultures" become dominant." Stop beating around the bush Barney and say what you really think:-D
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 06/02/2024 19:26:22
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Soccer as an organised sport is as traditional to Ireland as Gaelic football to be fair.
It has been played here since before the formation of the GAA and the codification (invention) of Gaelic football.
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Big problem in GAA is the repetitive nature of fixtures every year. There are too many matches now and too many stadiums for the number of games. But the one in Cork, well who in the name of god decided it needed to be such a gigantic stadium. Great stadium, wrong location for neutral games.
But a general point on GAA attendances. I decided after last years league of farce that I was not going to go see league matches, they are poor value for €20. Even in the championship, I will go to see Dublin play Wexford and will bring the young lads to Wexford play another couple of matches (Kilkenny, Galway maybe). But, these games are all now in the "repetitive" category. Not providing anything novel, same as last year. I have a cousin from Cork who says the same, he goes to the game which has something at stake and no others.
There are just too many matches now where the outcome does not ultimately matter.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1259 - 07/02/2024 12:52:22
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Big problem in GAA is the repetitive nature of fixtures every year. There are too many matches now and too many stadiums for the number of games. But the one in Cork, well who in the name of god decided it needed to be such a gigantic stadium. Great stadium, wrong location for neutral games.
But a general point on GAA attendances. I decided after last years league of farce that I was not going to go see league matches, they are poor value for €20. Even in the championship, I will go to see Dublin play Wexford and will bring the young lads to Wexford play another couple of matches (Kilkenny, Galway maybe). But, these games are all now in the "repetitive" category. Not providing anything novel, same as last year. I have a cousin from Cork who says the same, he goes to the game which has something at stake and no others.
There are just too many matches now where the outcome does not ultimately matter." They should've built the stadium in Mallow.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 07/02/2024 14:12:10
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Big problem in GAA is the repetitive nature of fixtures every year. There are too many matches now and too many stadiums for the number of games. But the one in Cork, well who in the name of god decided it needed to be such a gigantic stadium. Great stadium, wrong location for neutral games.
But a general point on GAA attendances. I decided after last years league of farce that I was not going to go see league matches, they are poor value for €20. Even in the championship, I will go to see Dublin play Wexford and will bring the young lads to Wexford play another couple of matches (Kilkenny, Galway maybe). But, these games are all now in the "repetitive" category. Not providing anything novel, same as last year. I have a cousin from Cork who says the same, he goes to the game which has something at stake and no others.
There are just too many matches now where the outcome does not ultimately matter." They should've built the stadium in Mallow. Or Mitchelstown.
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Replying To Viking66: "They should've built the stadium in Mallow. Or Mitchelstown." That was contemplated, especially in light of the flooding problems at the present site. I think Frank had a grandiose image of the future, that was detached from reality. He envisioned All Ireland's being played at Páirc Uí Chaoimh , and it becoming a rival to Croke Park . He thought the infrastructure of hotels, restaurants in the city would support this. Frank of course is from Ballinlough, and is affiliated with Blackrock GAA ,only a few miles from the stadium. Gaelic football was never well supported in Cork city and they would be better off in a smaller stadium outside city.
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 373 - 08/02/2024 12:18:10
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