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Replying To clooney:  "Paddy Power has limerick at 4/9 they see Bookies are never wrong Clare at 9/1 very few idf any can match Limericks last 15 Minutes thats when they are most lethal"
Clare 9/4

I think Limerick are in a good place but so are clare. The only concern for clare is they've been at high level championship pace for a while now and I wonder is it sustainable. Limerick seem to be slowly getting up through the gears but still plenty to work on. Clare hsve had a run of close intense matches.

League semi v Tipp
League final v Kk
Round Robin v Limerick
RR v Cork
RR v Waterford
RR v Tipp

Going all out for the league was something lohan and the group wanted and perhaps needed but there can be a price to pay when it comes to mental fatigue. Freshness is a key word in modern inter County hurling. That said its a munster final and its been 26 years now for clare so hunger will be huge. I just think Limerick might be moving into a nice groove and with players returning from injury will give an added spice to training and prep

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 31/05/2024 11:29:45    2548539

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Replying To daveboy:  "Clare 9/4

I think Limerick are in a good place but so are clare. The only concern for clare is they've been at high level championship pace for a while now and I wonder is it sustainable. Limerick seem to be slowly getting up through the gears but still plenty to work on. Clare hsve had a run of close intense matches.

League semi v Tipp
League final v Kk
Round Robin v Limerick
RR v Cork
RR v Waterford
RR v Tipp

Going all out for the league was something lohan and the group wanted and perhaps needed but there can be a price to pay when it comes to mental fatigue. Freshness is a key word in modern inter County hurling. That said its a munster final and its been 26 years now for clare so hunger will be huge. I just think Limerick might be moving into a nice groove and with players returning from injury will give an added spice to training and prep"
While I fancy Limerick, it will be a tight game and could go either way. And Clare definitely the better bet at those odds
Happy that even if we lose, we will get another shot in QF. I dont think there is that much between the top teams, especially Limerick, Clare and Cork who are the emerging power. Kilkenny have looked off this year but are probably happy about going under the radar
A lucky old goal, a red card, a fussy ref, an injury and odds go out the window

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 39 - 31/05/2024 14:52:10    2548578

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Replying To Yadse:  "While I fancy Limerick, it will be a tight game and could go either way. And Clare definitely the better bet at those odds
Happy that even if we lose, we will get another shot in QF. I dont think there is that much between the top teams, especially Limerick, Clare and Cork who are the emerging power. Kilkenny have looked off this year but are probably happy about going under the radar
A lucky old goal, a red card, a fussy ref, an injury and odds go out the window"
All true ya

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 31/05/2024 15:40:49    2548585

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Replying To daveboy:  "Clare 9/4

I think Limerick are in a good place but so are clare. The only concern for clare is they've been at high level championship pace for a while now and I wonder is it sustainable. Limerick seem to be slowly getting up through the gears but still plenty to work on. Clare hsve had a run of close intense matches.

League semi v Tipp
League final v Kk
Round Robin v Limerick
RR v Cork
RR v Waterford
RR v Tipp

Going all out for the league was something lohan and the group wanted and perhaps needed but there can be a price to pay when it comes to mental fatigue. Freshness is a key word in modern inter County hurling. That said its a munster final and its been 26 years now for clare so hunger will be huge. I just think Limerick might be moving into a nice groove and with players returning from injury will give an added spice to training and prep"
I am not sure we went all out to win the league to be honest. Obviously when we got to the final you have to go for it but it wasn't our fault Tipperary were so off it in the semi final. We were decent in the league group stage without setting the world alight and tried a number of new players more than most counties.

Limerick are obvious favourites for this but if you told me at the start of the year that we would make Munster final while missing Taylor, Kelly and McInerney for either the entire Munster championship or the vast majority I'd have been delighted.

I feel we were better placed going into the Munster final the last 2 years but sport is a funny game and maybe the lack of optimism this year will help the lads. While Limerick were good against Waterford especially in the final quarter they haven't set the world alight this year and are beatable. Here's to another classic

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2613 - 01/06/2024 12:50:48    2548677

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Congratulations to Offaly! Great to see them back winning AIs; some skill and strong players on both sides.

And this message isn't to take from Leo O'Connor but that Offaly display had Kinnerk's fingerprints all over it. Aren't they close neighbors: O'Connor in Claughaun and Kinnerick a few yards over the road in Monaleen? I'm sure that they're well in cahoots!

Anyway, thrilled to see Uibh Fhaili rise again!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2047 - 01/06/2024 21:27:11    2548776

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Congratulations to Offaly! Great to see them back winning AIs; some skill and strong players on both sides.

And this message isn't to take from Leo O'Connor but that Offaly display had Kinnerk's fingerprints all over it. Aren't they close neighbors: O'Connor in Claughaun and Kinnerick a few yards over the road in Monaleen? I'm sure that they're well in cahoots!

Anyway, thrilled to see Uibh Fhaili rise again!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2047 - 01/06/2024 21:39:57    2548779

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I am not sure we went all out to win the league to be honest. Obviously when we got to the final you have to go for it but it wasn't our fault Tipperary were so off it in the semi final. We were decent in the league group stage without setting the world alight and tried a number of new players more than most counties.

Limerick are obvious favourites for this but if you told me at the start of the year that we would make Munster final while missing Taylor, Kelly and McInerney for either the entire Munster championship or the vast majority I'd have been delighted.

I feel we were better placed going into the Munster final the last 2 years but sport is a funny game and maybe the lack of optimism this year will help the lads. While Limerick were good against Waterford especially in the final quarter they haven't set the world alight this year and are beatable. Here's to another classic"
I think Clare have a stronger squad this year than previously. Plenty of options to cover injuries and real bench impact
It's not that long ago that they were over reliant on Kelly but being able to win without him is a huge plus
I actually think Clare might have a Tony Kelly dilemma. A bit like Galway a few years ago with Canning when he plays other players seem to shrink and become over reliant on him. Fantastic hurler, usually runs up a big score v Limerick but Clare lose. The Chicago Bulls had to figure out how to win Championships with Michael Jordan and I think Clare need Kelly to win an AI but are not sure they can. Now maybe he is not 100% fit and so the point is moot but if he is fit will Lohan start him?
As for Limerick it's hard to know where they are. Stats say they are better than last year but are they? How bad on the day were Tipp and Waterford? They seemed to weather the Cork storm but then lost it. And they really were lucky to beat Clare. Are they motoring away and ready to sweep all before them again or are they creaking a bit? I don't know.

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 39 - 01/06/2024 23:01:27    2548796

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Congratulations to Offaly! Great to see them back winning AIs; some skill and strong players on both sides.

And this message isn't to take from Leo O'Connor but that Offaly display had Kinnerk's fingerprints all over it. Aren't they close neighbors: O'Connor in Claughaun and Kinnerick a few yards over the road in Monaleen? I'm sure that they're well in cahoots!

Anyway, thrilled to see Uibh Fhaili rise again!"
Leo's a Limerick man working in Clare, living in Tipperary and managing in Offaly. He's done a great job with these young Offaly players. It's good to see the faithful back winning hurling All Irelands and let's hope they're winning at senior in a few years. Offaly's a great traditional gaa county which has punched above it's weight in football and hurling down the years.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2263 - 02/06/2024 06:40:45    2548807

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Replying To endgame:  "Leo's a Limerick man working in Clare, living in Tipperary and managing in Offaly. He's done a great job with these young Offaly players. It's good to see the faithful back winning hurling All Irelands and let's hope they're winning at senior in a few years. Offaly's a great traditional gaa county which has punched above it's weight in football and hurling down the years."
I think Leo came on as a sub in the infamous 94 final v Offaly.
I am sure he is in line for the top job in Offaly when it next opens up if he wants it, but I wonder if Limerick are also keeping an eye on him. Kiely and Kinnerk both seem like the types to want to do something different with their lives in another year or so

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 39 - 02/06/2024 15:25:04    2548885

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Congratulations to Offaly! Great to see them back winning AIs; some skill and strong players on both sides.

And this message isn't to take from Leo O'Connor but that Offaly display had Kinnerk's fingerprints all over it. Aren't they close neighbors: O'Connor in Claughaun and Kinnerick a few yards over the road in Monaleen? I'm sure that they're well in cahoots!

Anyway, thrilled to see Uibh Fhaili rise again!"
" but that Offaly display had Kinnerk's fingerprints all over it."

Pls enlighten us less knowledgeable about the great game by enumerating 3 aspects of the Offaly style which demonstrate Kinnerk's unique fingerprints all over it apart from living Just a few yards over the road and not just a style practiced in other teams in today's modern game. Feel free to elaborate with more than 3 as your superior intellect/omniscience allows.

For the record I agree that Kinnerk is a brilliant coach.


Dying to hear your expert analysis

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 02/06/2024 15:37:13    2548889

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Replying To Yadse:  "I think Leo came on as a sub in the infamous 94 final v Offaly.
I am sure he is in line for the top job in Offaly when it next opens up if he wants it, but I wonder if Limerick are also keeping an eye on him. Kiely and Kinnerk both seem like the types to want to do something different with their lives in another year or so"
He did indeed and scored a couple of points too.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2003 - 02/06/2024 16:30:02    2548909

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "" but that Offaly display had Kinnerk's fingerprints all over it."

Pls enlighten us less knowledgeable about the great game by enumerating 3 aspects of the Offaly style which demonstrate Kinnerk's unique fingerprints all over it apart from living Just a few yards over the road and not just a style practiced in other teams in today's modern game. Feel free to elaborate with more than 3 as your superior intellect/omniscience allows.

For the record I agree that Kinnerk is a brilliant coach.


Dying to hear your expert analysis"
I only reply to bona fide posters!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2047 - 02/06/2024 16:43:33    2548912

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I only reply to bona fide posters!"
Much appreciate the enlightenment. Have a nice day!

i'm off to the racecourse be seen congratulating the winners in the winners circle, otherwise known as "grandstanding".

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 02/06/2024 17:57:17    2548951

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If you ever wanted to know where the saying "2 bald men fighting over a comb" came from, see above exchange.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 968 - 02/06/2024 21:38:57    2549035

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Looking forward to another great munster final and pre game banter about the gmae in the coming week.
Hope management will have most everyone available to pick from and hope officiating is on its toes.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 03/06/2024 03:15:36    2549065

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Limerick teams are usually predictable and same for Sunday except for who will replace Flanagan
Hard to see him being fit, with DOD likely not ready as a starter.

O'Brien was outstanding v Waterford but big difference in coming in unexpectedly, no pressure, versus starting a Munster final with Clare ready for him. Kiely likes to keep his bench guessing so any one of O dalaigh or English could start. I wonder if he will ask Mulcahy to step in. Run himself into the ground for 40 minutes then bring in one of the youngers when things have opened up a bit?
Casey was outstanding v Waterford so I don't think he will feel like he needs to rush Finn back - if he is fit he is more likely to bench

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 39 - 05/06/2024 03:59:41    2549585

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Replying To daveboy:  "Clare 9/4

I think Limerick are in a good place but so are clare. The only concern for clare is they've been at high level championship pace for a while now and I wonder is it sustainable. Limerick seem to be slowly getting up through the gears but still plenty to work on. Clare hsve had a run of close intense matches.

League semi v Tipp
League final v Kk
Round Robin v Limerick
RR v Cork
RR v Waterford
RR v Tipp

Going all out for the league was something lohan and the group wanted and perhaps needed but there can be a price to pay when it comes to mental fatigue. Freshness is a key word in modern inter County hurling. That said its a munster final and its been 26 years now for clare so hunger will be huge. I just think Limerick might be moving into a nice groove and with players returning from injury will give an added spice to training and prep"
Nah! Clare didnt go all out for the league. No team in hurling that has serious ambitions of winning Munsters or All Irelands will do that so there wont be any mental tiredness whatsoever. Now whether they are good enough to beat Limerick in a game both will strongly want to win is another. Psychologically it will be more damaging to Clare if they lose than it would be for Limerick so there's that factor. Even if they were to lose Limerick would still be favourites to win the All Ireland as they tend to go up a notch in quality when they reach Croke Park.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1931 - 05/06/2024 07:55:53    2549597

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Nah! Clare didnt go all out for the league. No team in hurling that has serious ambitions of winning Munsters or All Irelands will do that so there wont be any mental tiredness whatsoever. Now whether they are good enough to beat Limerick in a game both will strongly want to win is another. Psychologically it will be more damaging to Clare if they lose than it would be for Limerick so there's that factor. Even if they were to lose Limerick would still be favourites to win the All Ireland as they tend to go up a notch in quality when they reach Croke Park."
Limerick by 8-9pts

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 317 - 05/06/2024 11:46:14    2549659

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Nah! Clare didnt go all out for the league. No team in hurling that has serious ambitions of winning Munsters or All Irelands will do that so there wont be any mental tiredness whatsoever. Now whether they are good enough to beat Limerick in a game both will strongly want to win is another. Psychologically it will be more damaging to Clare if they lose than it would be for Limerick so there's that factor. Even if they were to lose Limerick would still be favourites to win the All Ireland as they tend to go up a notch in quality when they reach Croke Park."
I would agree that usually no team goes all out to win the league, but Clare were into Lohan's fifth season at the helm without any silverware. I think psychologically they needed to win something tangible and targeted the league. And when it happened to be Kilkenny in the final, they really needed to win it...psychological reasons as well.

For the fact that they're going for 6-in-a-row Munster titles, I'd like to see Limerick do it. Other than that, I wouldn't begrudge Clare a title. They are playing a very good brand of hurling these days, have stopped their propensity to fall down and roll around the place (only 2-3 culprits but that is 2-3 too many), and seem to have stopped blaming the referees when they lose. Now as regards the latter, I know certain Clare followers still carry on with that lark, as do fans of every county incl. Limerick, but at least now it is not coming from the mouth of the manager (Glen Ryan in Kildare, please take heed).

When you think about it, all those amazing Cork teams with Lynch and Ring and the Tipperary ones with the Doyles and The Rattler, somehow never quite managed the 6-in-a-row in Munster. Actually, as far as I know, Tipp has never even done 4 Munster titles in a row (please correct me if I am wrong); Cork has done 5 at three different stages: 1901-05, 1975-79, and 1982-86. And that means that the great JBM must have 10 Munster senior hurling medals (and 2 in football).

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2047 - 05/06/2024 15:54:51    2549730

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I would agree that usually no team goes all out to win the league, but Clare were into Lohan's fifth season at the helm without any silverware. I think psychologically they needed to win something tangible and targeted the league. And when it happened to be Kilkenny in the final, they really needed to win it...psychological reasons as well.

For the fact that they're going for 6-in-a-row Munster titles, I'd like to see Limerick do it. Other than that, I wouldn't begrudge Clare a title. They are playing a very good brand of hurling these days, have stopped their propensity to fall down and roll around the place (only 2-3 culprits but that is 2-3 too many), and seem to have stopped blaming the referees when they lose. Now as regards the latter, I know certain Clare followers still carry on with that lark, as do fans of every county incl. Limerick, but at least now it is not coming from the mouth of the manager (Glen Ryan in Kildare, please take heed).

When you think about it, all those amazing Cork teams with Lynch and Ring and the Tipperary ones with the Doyles and The Rattler, somehow never quite managed the 6-in-a-row in Munster. Actually, as far as I know, Tipp has never even done 4 Munster titles in a row (please correct me if I am wrong); Cork has done 5 at three different stages: 1901-05, 1975-79, and 1982-86. And that means that the great JBM must have 10 Munster senior hurling medals (and 2 in football)."
Denis Coughlan has 10 Munster medals., 6 in hurling and 4 in football. Gerald and Charlie McCarthy have 9 Munster hurling medals.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 312 - 06/06/2024 02:36:08    2549784

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