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Wexford Hurling thread 2024

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Conor Mac is 28....born in 95, turns 29 this year at some stage actually.
Rory O'Connor born in 98 is 26 this year"
You were talking about Rory I thought! Between injuries and style of play/team set up sadly we never got to see an inside 3 of Mac, Rory and Dunbar.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/01/2024 12:12:40    2523272

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Replying To baire:  "How many AIs did ye win during Cody's reign or since Galway's arrival? Ye were blaming him for your demise and nowadays it's Galway's fault. Have a look in the mirror for a change."
I wasn't blaming anyone for our demise I can't say we have had one we are where we pretty much have always been in my lifetime, except for the early 90s when we had a genuinely competitive team, and the turn of the teens when we were just terrible. Read my posts back. We had a great era long before I came along Baire! In my time we are capable of great performances followed by indifferent ones, even strung a few together to win 1 AI. That should sound pretty familiar to you Baire as that's been the story of Galways fortunes in my time also. You had a great team in the 80s. Since them you have won one AI also. Only difference is you have around 20 times as many hurling only adult players as we have.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/01/2024 12:19:25    2523278

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Good debate as usual here. I laugh when I see posters from other counties join the discussion, it is the best page on HS by a long way. I would love Dublin debate to be like it but I might be as well off getting BarneyGrants number. Anyway!

Galway would have half the club All-Irelands if they had to negotiate either Munster or Leinster. Dublin clubs often came a cropper in Leinster but would have beaten Antrim teams in challenge matches. To claim winning 2 matches as a sign of great clubs is pushing it.

I didn't see the Wexford match but I heard a bit on the radio. It sounded like 2 mid strength teams going at it but mercifully Wexford have decided to mix the direct with the planned. Its about 6 years after they should have been doing it. Wexford need to find new faces for the league, so it is good to see players giving it and putting their hand up. But its only Jan. The real challenges begin at the weekend, and even then they REAL challenges begin in April.

I'm an immigrant to the county (!!!) but for me, watching Wexford since the late 80s and properly from the 90s the best is by a mile Liam Dunne. He just had it all. Next 4 would be Fitzehenry, Rossiter, Darragh Ryan and Martin Storey. Chin is a monster and the best conditioned player Wexford ever hard, but he needs to do it in May/June every year before he will be one of the greats. I thought McDonald, Guiney and Rory O'Connor could be and 2 still could, but they need to deliver when the stakes are highest, not in a Walsh Cup.

KK Podcast, I pay no podcast any heed. They got a programme and said "heard of him, championship starter". Most podcasters on GAA are clowns who do no research.

"Realistically there's about 5 or 6 teams at the moment all at the 1 level just below Limerick, Kilkenny are 1 of them and Wexford are not based on recent championship showings.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1408 - 30/01/2024 10:09:58 2523239"

I think that is right. Time will tell whether it is a different Wexford this year."
Good post Exiled. Nothing won in January. I'll be happy enough with the year if we are consistent and competitive. Reaching a final or winning it would be an unexpected bonus!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/01/2024 12:22:37    2523279

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Replying To baire:  "How many competitive games do the Dublin footballers have to play to get to an AISF? Would you cast aspersions on their All Ireland wins? What about Cody's easy route out of Leinster for most of his time in charge of KK?
You wouldn't make those remarks about the achievement of Galway hurling clubs if you knew anything about club hurling or the history of club hurling in Galway."
Galway would be a hard county to win a county title in there are so many hurling only or hurling 1st priority clubs up there. Along with your underage success it makes it completely baffling that you have less AI Senior Hurling titles won than we have.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/01/2024 12:27:17    2523280

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Replying To Viking66:  "Galway would be a hard county to win a county title in there are so many hurling only or hurling 1st priority clubs up there. Along with your underage success it makes it completely baffling that you have less AI Senior Hurling titles won than we have."
Not baffling at all Viking. Without the rivalry within the province, e.g Mayo, Roscommon and Galway in the football, Galway hurlers for years devoted their time and energy to winning the club championship which historically, before the GAA, was the only rivalry worth talking about. Hurling at county level wasn't taken seriously in Galway until the mid 70s.
I remember talking to a fella from Clarinbridge some years ago and congratulating him on beating OLGs in the AIF. "We had a great day in Croke Park", I said to him. "We did, he said, "but tbh we got more satisfaction out of beating our neighbours!" " No wonder Galway aren't winning anything, if that's the attitude," I said to him! He laughed!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 30/01/2024 13:43:33    2523305

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Replying To baire:  "How many competitive games do the Dublin footballers have to play to get to an AISF? Would you cast aspersions on their All Ireland wins? What about Cody's easy route out of Leinster for most of his time in charge of KK?
You wouldn't make those remarks about the achievement of Galway hurling clubs if you knew anything about club hurling or the history of club hurling in Galway."
Its not Dublin footballer problem the rest of Leinster were brutal. But they still got 2-3 good tests every year once out of Leinster.
KK were way ahead of everybody not just Leinster. Their subs would have beaten Wexford, Clare, Limerick, Waterford, Dublin and Galway at certain times back then.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1583 - 30/01/2024 15:13:50    2523326

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Its not Dublin footballer problem the rest of Leinster were brutal. But they still got 2-3 good tests every year once out of Leinster.
KK were way ahead of everybody not just Leinster. Their subs would have beaten Wexford, Clare, Limerick, Waterford, Dublin and Galway at certain times back then."
Neither is it Galway's fault that football is the preferred sport in the rest of Connacht. The provincial system works well in Munster hurling and in Ulster football. Dublin have dominated the football in Leinster, likewise KK in the hurling and Kerry for long periods in Munster football. It's not a question of blaming any county, the system is not fit for purpose and hasn't been for many a year.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 30/01/2024 15:47:11    2523333

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Replying To baire:  "Neither is it Galway's fault that football is the preferred sport in the rest of Connacht. The provincial system works well in Munster hurling and in Ulster football. Dublin have dominated the football in Leinster, likewise KK in the hurling and Kerry for long periods in Munster football. It's not a question of blaming any county, the system is not fit for purpose and hasn't been for many a year."
We can hardly call Leinster Hurling a provincial championship at this stage really.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4373 - 30/01/2024 15:58:25    2523334

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "We can hardly call Leinster Hurling a provincial championship at this stage really."
It's still called the Leinster championship though! But if words are to mean anything, Galway and Antrim should not be in a competition called the Leinster championship.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 30/01/2024 16:12:23    2523336

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Replying To baire:  "Not baffling at all Viking. Without the rivalry within the province, e.g Mayo, Roscommon and Galway in the football, Galway hurlers for years devoted their time and energy to winning the club championship which historically, before the GAA, was the only rivalry worth talking about. Hurling at county level wasn't taken seriously in Galway until the mid 70s.
I remember talking to a fella from Clarinbridge some years ago and congratulating him on beating OLGs in the AIF. "We had a great day in Croke Park", I said to him. "We did, he said, "but tbh we got more satisfaction out of beating our neighbours!" " No wonder Galway aren't winning anything, if that's the attitude," I said to him! He laughed!"
Galway were in the 1st AI hurling final, and won an AI in the 20s and reached 3 more finals that decade I think, and reached 3 finals in the 50s also. Like most counties you have had strong teams at different times. The big 3 have just had more such teams.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/01/2024 18:23:55    2523365

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Replying To baire:  "Neither is it Galway's fault that football is the preferred sport in the rest of Connacht. The provincial system works well in Munster hurling and in Ulster football. Dublin have dominated the football in Leinster, likewise KK in the hurling and Kerry for long periods in Munster football. It's not a question of blaming any county, the system is not fit for purpose and hasn't been for many a year."
It's fit for its own purpose. For alot of counties winning a provincial title is still a big deal in either code. Dublin weren't dominating Leinster football back in the 90s and noughties. The Connacht football championship still means alot to the Rossies, Sligo and Leitrim. I'm sure Galway still like to win it too.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/01/2024 18:28:09    2523366

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Replying To Viking66:  "Doylerwex asked what were scores that stuck in my mind and I suppose it might be a surprise to some that I picked out a goal from an u21 game against Carlow. The reason was as I left the ground that sunny evening I was convinced we were on the cusp of something special. An inside line of Mac, Dunbar and O Connor was going to terrorise full back lines for years I was full sure of it. I was somewhat deflated when Richie Leahy inspired Kilkenny to beat us in the final. Leaving that game I was worried he'd become the next King Henry. Both things never came to pass just goes to show how wrong you can be!"
I don't think Mac, Dunbar, and ROC would've played together at U21 level, Mac's last year U21 was in 2016 and Rory was still playing Minor at that stage. I think you're thinking of 2017 when we would've beaten Carlow in Wexford Park in the Leinster SF before losing fairly heavily to Kilkenny in Nowlan Park

FWIW, I don't think Dunbar is suited to playing corner-forward, his best performances at inter-county level have all come from out in the middle of the pitch

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1013 - 30/01/2024 18:44:55    2523372

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I don't think Mac, Dunbar, and ROC would've played together at U21 level, Mac's last year U21 was in 2016 and Rory was still playing Minor at that stage. I think you're thinking of 2017 when we would've beaten Carlow in Wexford Park in the Leinster SF before losing fairly heavily to Kilkenny in Nowlan Park

FWIW, I don't think Dunbar is suited to playing corner-forward, his best performances at inter-county level have all come from out in the middle of the pitch"
It was 2017 we played Carlow. Rory wasn't playing think he was injured. Cathal got 3 goals. Cathal played with Mac in 2015 and 2016. The final against Kilkenny was in the Park and Richie Leahy ran the show for them he was unplayable. Cathals best performance for us was against Clare in 2021 in Ennis think he got 5 from play. He started as part of a 2 man inside line with Paul Morris but usual Davy was operating out the half forward line alot of the game.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/01/2024 19:32:35    2523382

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I don't think Mac, Dunbar, and ROC would've played together at U21 level, Mac's last year U21 was in 2016 and Rory was still playing Minor at that stage. I think you're thinking of 2017 when we would've beaten Carlow in Wexford Park in the Leinster SF before losing fairly heavily to Kilkenny in Nowlan Park

FWIW, I don't think Dunbar is suited to playing corner-forward, his best performances at inter-county level have all come from out in the middle of the pitch"
Problem with Cathal Dunbar out around the middle is that he can go missing at times. Although he was playing there against Clare in the League last year and was one of very few players who played well for us that day.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/01/2024 19:43:09    2523384

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Anyone know when Rory O Connor is back lads? Really looking forward to seeing him back in action . He has the potential to be our star man and I hope he can fulfill that under Keith. A big thing for Rory will be to stay injury free

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 31/01/2024 09:15:05    2523427

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Replying To Viking66:  "Finished listening to it. Painful if you aren't from Kilkenny but you have to admire their positivity. They genuinely think Kilkenny are the 2nd best team in the country, they have no hang ups whatsoever about the rest of the Munster teams aside from Limerick unlike us, although Scally sounded nervous enough about Sunday if the OLG lads and TJ, Cody and Mullen aren't playing."
Expecting KK to go strong at the weekend, they had some of the Ballyhale and O'Loughlin contingent playing last weekend v Waterford from what I heard. Only heard the end of the podcast yesterday some it was delusional confidence though, there on the same level as the likes of Clare and Cork but not ahead of them, any games involving those 3, Tipp and Galway playing each other would be basically 50/50 games at the moment.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 31/01/2024 15:43:12    2523532

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Expecting KK to go strong at the weekend, they had some of the Ballyhale and O'Loughlin contingent playing last weekend v Waterford from what I heard. Only heard the end of the podcast yesterday some it was delusional confidence though, there on the same level as the likes of Clare and Cork but not ahead of them, any games involving those 3, Tipp and Galway playing each other would be basically 50/50 games at the moment."
Was talking to fella I know in kk yesterday and he was saying they gave Waterford a bit of a trimming on Sunday, he said both teams had strong enough teams out, think he said they scored 4-20 odd and Waterford only scored around 1-12. He couldn't think of team but it was on the lines of:
Brennan
Delaney, Moylan, Rowe
Blanch, Corcoran, Molloy
He couldn't remember midfield
Mullen and Heary in the half forward line but couldn't remember the other
Blanch, Ryan, S Donnelly.
I hope they have the OLG lads back on Sunday, and maybe Richie Reid and Eoin Cody, and our younger/newer lads get a right good test! The experience would stand to them come championship, and Rossiter would have a better idea who might be able to step up come championship also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 31/01/2024 16:20:16    2523545

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I wouldn't be reading anything into challenge matches. This is great preparation for the summer for wexford especially with lots of new lads on the panel but theres no fear with Wexford against kk. Similar to clare against limerick. Wexford have beaten kk at minor and u21/20 so theres no fear.
Ive no doubt kk will have a much different team to the team in callan. Deegan, lawlor and butler will be given a few more weeks off by all accounts. Theres a few rounds of fitzgibbon Thursday night so all counties with players involved will have to manage players.
Jacko will be delighted if Corcoran is center back sunday. Corcoran is very slow but jacko has started very well but he's being on and off the team a number of years i think keith will get the best out of players. Likewise conor foley will be praying liam blanchfield is full foward he absolutely destroyed him in callan.
This is a good test but obviously wont matter to much when the championship comes around.wexford will want to keep the foot on the throat. The kk supporters acknowledge the record isnt for good reading. Wexford seem to bamboozle them with running and movement.

Slowandshortsighted (UK) - Posts: 73 - 31/01/2024 22:21:32    2523593

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Replying To Slowandshortsighted:  "I wouldn't be reading anything into challenge matches. This is great preparation for the summer for wexford especially with lots of new lads on the panel but theres no fear with Wexford against kk. Similar to clare against limerick. Wexford have beaten kk at minor and u21/20 so theres no fear.
Ive no doubt kk will have a much different team to the team in callan. Deegan, lawlor and butler will be given a few more weeks off by all accounts. Theres a few rounds of fitzgibbon Thursday night so all counties with players involved will have to manage players.
Jacko will be delighted if Corcoran is center back sunday. Corcoran is very slow but jacko has started very well but he's being on and off the team a number of years i think keith will get the best out of players. Likewise conor foley will be praying liam blanchfield is full foward he absolutely destroyed him in callan.
This is a good test but obviously wont matter to much when the championship comes around.wexford will want to keep the foot on the throat. The kk supporters acknowledge the record isnt for good reading. Wexford seem to bamboozle them with running and movement."
It's a very big ask for us to beat Kilkenny with the players we are missing. Wexford fans seem to lose the run of themselves after Winning the Walsh cup.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 200 - 02/02/2024 06:52:09    2523782

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "It's a very big ask for us to beat Kilkenny with the players we are missing. Wexford fans seem to lose the run of themselves after Winning the Walsh cup."
It's a big ask for sure. Especially in Kilkenny. But we haven't lost a championship game in Nowlan Park since 2018 on the other hand, although we lost there in the League in 2021, our only loss to Kilkenny in 70 minutes since 2018 in 13 games in all Senior competitions.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 02/02/2024 08:10:30    2523786

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