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Kinda like asking what's the difference between winning by one point and winning by ten points. Leading for only the last second of the game implies a far more unimpressive performance than leading for the last 5/10/20/however many minutes of the game,feeding into the posters original point about kilkenny not being great this year in comparison to their all star haul. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 18/11/2023 23:06:43 2513687 Link 1 |
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You'd be a brave man to put money on Galway to beat Kilkenny in a Leinster final, Kilkenny are Kilkenny, they never go away. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 806 - 19/11/2023 00:16:49 2513694 Link 1 |
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Nicky is paying now for the 6 backs in front of him..it's the same as kk keepers when they were completely dominant..they don't get to do the spectacular and don't get noticed..for me Nicky us the most vital cog in limerick set up. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2378 - 19/11/2023 00:42:07 2513695 Link 0 |
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For starters McGarry wasn't kilkenny goalkeeper for the all of the 07 and 08 seasons for obvious reasons. Leaving that aside the above poster mentioned a pivotal moment involving Quaid in '18 without which Limerick wouldn't have won the all Ireland and opined that limerick wouldn't have won the 4 in a row without Quaid. Which pivotal moments between 2000 and 2008 was McGarry involved in, and what all Irelands would kilkenny have not won without him? Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 19/11/2023 10:44:24 2513708 Link 0 |
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And the best example of this was David Kilcoyne of Westmeath getting one in 1986. Westmeath had a good run in the 86 league but didn't get far in championship. Kilcoyne would've made the best county teams in the 80s.
stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 591 - 19/11/2023 11:23:57 2513712 Link 0 |
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Yeah but McGarry will never be spoken about in the same sentence as Quaid and Murphy.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2085 - 19/11/2023 12:11:50 2513716 Link 0 |
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That's a good point
Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 19/11/2023 18:51:28 2513752 Link 0 |
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Kilkenny went away in the second half of this year's All Ireland final. Wexford under new management may have a say in Leinster next year. Kilkenny going for 4 Leinsters in a row. Agree that money on Galway hurlers is not the safest of bets.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2300 - 19/11/2023 19:07:43 2513757 Link 0 |
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He will be in Kilkenny.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2654 - 19/11/2023 20:52:55 2513774 Link 0 |
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That's the last time we won it alright, but you could certainly say we've had good leagues since. 93, 96, 07, 17, 19, 22 until the semi final which I've suppressed Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3143 - 19/11/2023 23:18:59 2513794 Link 0 |
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He's an absolutely magnificent keeper. He'd remind you of the greats of the 90s
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3143 - 19/11/2023 23:20:17 2513795 Link 0 |
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He was probably the weakest link in that kk team
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3143 - 19/11/2023 23:21:22 2513796 Link 1 |
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Laois were always good for a player or two in those days as well. There have been some amazing players from weaker counties that have missed out badly. Ronan Fallon of Dublin in the pre money days. McManus in antrim, Johnston from down, Mitchell for westmeath, James Young from Laois, and I think I remember a Doyle from carlow. If wexford had been any use at the time r Jacob, rossiter and gizzy Lyng should all have been all stars. Come to think of it Paul codd could outscore all the kilkenny lads. Shaughnessy from limerick in some lean years was unreal too Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3143 - 19/11/2023 23:25:57 2513797 Link 0 |
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I'd say that is costing him sleepless nights! The man was part of possibly the greatest team ever to play the game - jury may be out, who knows - and won a trunk full of medals. I doubt he would swap them for a consolation prize which these awards sometimes are.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 20/11/2023 00:09:30 2513799 Link 0 |
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You're probably right but I HOPE he's right!!! Ha ha.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2260 - 20/11/2023 01:18:15 2513802 Link 0 |
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I've no issue with Kilkenny haul of All Stars. Yes they were "lucky" to beat Galway in the Leinster Final but that was all Galways fault. And Kilkenny have beaten Galway the last couple of years in MEANINGFUL MATCHES. Kilkenny were in the last 2 All Irelands and lost to the team EVERYONE loses to so that's that. I'd love Galway to win the next 10 All Irelands and sweep all the Awards but we are not there yet. But some day…….
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2260 - 20/11/2023 01:23:19 2513803 Link 0 |
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I'd take Murphy every day of the week over Quaid, even though Quaid is great too Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 20/11/2023 09:28:45 2513816 Link 0 |
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Hiw could he be the weakest link he was hardly ever tested.
Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 280 - 20/11/2023 09:40:51 2513817 Link 0 |
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How do you figure that? He started in 97. They won in 02, 03, 06, 07, 08 He was tested plenty in the years that they weren't successful. At that time you had Mullins, fitzhenry, Fitzgerald, Dónal Óg and Cummins. He was nowhere near that level. Tactics weren't what they are now, so the goal keepers main job was fielding the ball, stopping shots and restarting play after a score. He wasn't particularly good at any of those things in comparison to the above. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3143 - 20/11/2023 10:16:09 2513824 Link 0 |
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Liam Watson never got an all star either, though he did get to travel with the all star team one of the years I think.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 20/11/2023 10:23:53 2513825 Link 0 |