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Replying To WanPintWin: "Due to the same reason as now. They had fewer senior clubs than other top counties, even back then. Prior to 2016, they had 11 clubs and 9 divisional teams. So their intermediate winners were their 12th team. Galway had 20 senior clubs at that time. Other top counties had 16 or more, so they were competing against teams ranked 17th to 21st and above. In 2016 the number of clubs in Kerry reduced to 8, so their intermediate winners are their 9th ranked team since then. Galway had 17 senior clubs this year. Our intermediate winners are our 18th team. We've been in the process of reducing from 20 to 16 teams over the past few years. From next year we'll have 16, so our intermediate champions will be our 17th ranked team. It's still quite a difference. The 9th ranked club in Galway would be much stronger than our intermediate winners most years." You do realise that not every county has the same number of clubs? How many clubs do Galway have? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 10/11/2023 10:49:26 2512331 Link
Replying To oneoff: "You do realise that not every county has the same number of clubs? How many clubs do Galway have?" Of course they don't. We're not comparing Leitrim to Kerry or Galway. Kerry is a big football county, but has an inordinately small number of senior clubs. Comparing it to counties like Tyrone, Galway, Donegal, Mayo, Dublin, Meath, Kildare etc. which all have a minimum of 16 clubs in their championships. Galway has approximately 50 football clubs in total. I understand Kerry actually has more. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 10/11/2023 13:16:00 2512352 Link
What a win for Trillick, Lee Brennan's skill and Rory, work rate. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2150 - 11/11/2023 21:13:33 2512474 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "Didn't help them in a penalty shootout last year… Glenties will beat them comfortably" I'd be very, very surprised if Glenties beat them comfortably. Missing Eoghan McGettigan who in my eyes is there only scoring forward. To make up for that though, I'd say they have the best refined system out of any club team in Ireland. I'd be very surprised if this is more than 2 or 3 points in the difference either way. I can't call a winner. I'm probably buying into Gowna's form in Cavan too much, two incredible statement victories in the semi and final vs Crosserlough and Kingscourt but it's hard to know how good those teams really are. HB245 (Monaghan) - Posts: 247 - 11/11/2023 22:09:47 2512479 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "What a win for Trillick, Lee Brennan's skill and Rory, work rate." Crossmaglen very poor tactically. Living off the glory days. Had no plan whatsoever. Played man to man football in Armagh then thought they could do a few training sessions on modern football. They have been schooled 2 years in a row veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 651 - 12/11/2023 08:02:16 2512490 Link
Senior Trillick (Tyrone) v Crossmaglen (Armagh) - Trillick by 2 Kilcoo (Down) v - Scotstown (Monaghan) - Scotstown by 2 Glenn (Derry) v Cargin (Antrim) - Cargin by 2 Gowna (Cavan) v Glenties (Donegal) - Glenties by 6 Intermediate Ballyhaise (Cavan) v Downings (Donegal) - Ballyhaise by 8 Liatroim (Down) v Killanny (Monaghan) - Killanny by 6 Glenullin (Derry) v Glenravel (Antrim) - Glenullin by 8 Pomeroy (Tyrone) v St Patricks (Armagh) - Pomeroy by 2 veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 651 - 12/11/2023 09:47:04 2512500 Link
The first half of the Trillick v Crossmaglen was terrible stuff, tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 338 - 12/11/2023 14:02:20 2512516 Link
Replying To tireoghainabu: "The first half of the Trillick v Crossmaglen was terrible stuff," Not half as bad as Kilcormac/ Scotstown. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2150 - 12/11/2023 16:18:43 2512552 Link
Well done Scotstown, though you kicked yourselves out of it but Hughes to the rescue. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2150 - 12/11/2023 16:44:20 2512558 Link
What win for the Monaghan boys! Beggan has some head to be kicking them points. Most enjoyable to watch. Makes the championship a lot more interesting. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 12/11/2023 16:46:45 2512559 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "What win for the Monaghan boys! Beggan has some head to be kicking them points. Most enjoyable to watch. Makes the championship a lot more interesting." Brilliant game of football, though there was something unedifying about watching the Scotstown lads throw slaps at the kilcoo lads heads whenever there was any sort of scuffle for the ball. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 12/11/2023 17:13:56 2512568 Link
A great win for Scottstown and fully deserved. Thought they were the better team overall and they responded very well to penalty, which must have been a sickener. After they'd drawn level first and again at the end, they pushed up both times on Kilcoo's kickout instead of sitting back as most teams would do. They got their reward. Beggan kicked some brilliant scores in the 2nd half. The point off the outside of his boot from 60m out was exceptional, not to mention the winner which was very tricky. He made them look so easy. Kieran Hughes was also brilliant down the stretch. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 12/11/2023 17:21:34 2512570 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "What win for the Monaghan boys! Beggan has some head to be kicking them points. Most enjoyable to watch. Makes the championship a lot more interesting." I am delighted to see Kilcoo gone from the Ulster Championship. And I don't think that I am alone in my view. BlueBeret (Dublin) - Posts: 54 - 12/11/2023 17:39:43 2512573 Link
Delighted kilcoo where bet, going around like their kingpins or club football from a powerhouse county. Scotstown missed a huge amount and should have bet them by 5 or 6. Kilcoo need go away and look what a proper senior club does and how they act on and off the pitch Sportsfanatic90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 223 - 12/11/2023 17:57:16 2512574 Link
Great wins for Scotstown and Naomh Conaill, some great games to come, have to love Ulster football. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3029 - 12/11/2023 18:25:21 2512579 Link
Replying To drumalee11: "We never mentioned that's it was the senior teams with the advantage. It's there Intermediate and junior teams that have the advantage. And that's due to their lack of senior teams. Hence why they are top of the roll of honour by some distance in both Junior and Intermediate Club All-Ireland wins. Whether they have 20 Senior teams or 4 senior teams will be of no advantage or disadvantage to their senior champions but it will impact the quality of their Intermediate and Junior Champions. Surely this is common sense?" I would argue that in Cork, it's our 25th best team that represent the county at Intermediate, which is a fair way worse than your 13th in Cavan. However, unless you made all counties have the same numbers it's impossible to match it perfectly. Cork shoot themselves in the foot in this regard, by having premier senior and senior A before a premier intermediate and then intermediate grade. Therefore totally diluting our representatives. If we had straight Senior, Intermediate and Junior, followed by Junior A,B,C etc down the ladder, our Junior and Intermediate representatives would be very strong for that level. Newcestown would actually be in the Hurling and Football Munster, having won the double at Senior A this year. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 312 - 12/11/2023 19:22:11 2512587 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "What win for the Monaghan boys! Beggan has some head to be kicking them points. Most enjoyable to watch. Makes the championship a lot more interesting." Glen will walk the ulster championship now, kilcoo were the only team capable of beating them. glen will will the All Ireland 100%. Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 725 - 12/11/2023 20:18:30 2512592 Link
Beggan's point from play today for Scotstown was scarcely believable; must have been 70 yds, and cleared the bar with something to spare. And at a crucial time also. And as a encore, kicked the winning point from the 45 line, out on the wing, last kick of the game. befair (Down) - Posts: 238 - 12/11/2023 22:29:10 2512615 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Brilliant game of football, though there was something unedifying about watching the Scotstown lads throw slaps at the kilcoo lads heads whenever there was any sort of scuffle for the ball." Not sure I saw as much of that from the Scotstown side, but even if they did - fight fire with fire as they say. Kilcoo are no angels by a long stretch, and they'd be known for leaving a bit in on every tackle, to put it mildly patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 12/11/2023 22:39:29 2512617 Link
Scotstown need to cut out those stupid rash tackles that almost cost them yesterday, I'm thinking of the tackle for the penalty and black card, both were needless and almost cost them dearly. They will be hard to beat Felt sorry for Gowna the way they lost their match, on listening to the radio commentary they seemed to be the better team on the day Trillick look to be a well balanced, well coached team, though Cross didn't come out for the second half for the second year in a row Glen are Glen and will be worthy favourites but Glenties will be bouncing after yesterday's escape. Couldn't pick a winner but my heart says Scotstown mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1053 - 13/11/2023 11:25:25 2512655 Link