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GAA Juvenile Age Grades 2024

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Replying To Kickitout:  "Think Offaly even coukd be wrong"
Going even in 2025 but staying odd for 2024

limerick1234 (Limerick) - Posts: 6 - 28/11/2023 11:37:30    2514837

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Waterford voted last night.
They are staying odd ages.
Think Kilkenny and Carlow will be deciding soon.
But haven't heard what the likely outcome will be??

Skippy2 (Carlow) - Posts: 69 - 28/11/2023 17:48:57    2514920

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Replying To Skippy2:  "Waterford voted last night.
They are staying odd ages.
Think Kilkenny and Carlow will be deciding soon.
But haven't heard what the likely outcome will be??"
I think our great and good voted to stay "odd". I make that a 7 to 5 split in Leinster, taking Kilkenny into account. Can anyone explain how this will work out at minor / u17 level, or indeed u19/20 when it comes to Leinster Championship time ?.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1272 - 30/11/2023 10:13:35    2515050

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Replying To Skippy2:  "Waterford voted last night.
They are staying odd ages.
Think Kilkenny and Carlow will be deciding soon.
But haven't heard what the likely outcome will be??"
Carlow will follow kilkenny as we play kilkenny league in hurling

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1662 - 30/11/2023 10:49:28    2515055

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Replying To Freethinker:  "I think our great and good voted to stay "odd". I make that a 7 to 5 split in Leinster, taking Kilkenny into account. Can anyone explain how this will work out at minor / u17 level, or indeed u19/20 when it comes to Leinster Championship time ?."
Inter-county competions simply remain at U17 and U20, no matter what ages counties decide to run their own internal club competitions at.

For instance, in Wexford we ran U18 and U21 club competitions this year, but our county teams still had be U17 and U20.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2622 - 30/11/2023 11:07:58    2515060

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "Carlow will follow kilkenny as we play kilkenny league in hurling"
Yeah probably makes sense.
Aldo the football clubs will have a vote aswell, and Kilkenny league won't have any influence in which way they vote

Skippy2 (Carlow) - Posts: 69 - 30/11/2023 13:56:06    2515087

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Limerick's shifting to even ages (U8, 10, 12). Tipperary maintains odd ages (U9, 11, 13). Unsure about other counties' plans.

Silverston1 (USA) - Posts: 3 - 03/12/2023 19:19:41    2515379

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Replying To Skippy2:  "Yeah probably makes sense.
Aldo the football clubs will have a vote aswell, and Kilkenny league won't have any influence in which way they vote"
No but in terms of player retention bringing minor back to 18s make sense. Kilkenny voted to go evens last night

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1662 - 05/12/2023 08:43:59    2515550

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "No but in terms of player retention bringing minor back to 18s make sense. Kilkenny voted to go evens last night"
Yes heard that this morning. Minor should never have gone back to u17 in the 1st place. Hopefully intercounty will go back to u18 minor, and u21 now too. Too big of a step between u20 and Senior the way Senior intercounty is going S and C wise.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 05/12/2023 10:50:50    2515576

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Replying To Viking66:  "Yes heard that this morning. Minor should never have gone back to u17 in the 1st place. Hopefully intercounty will go back to u18 minor, and u21 now too. Too big of a step between u20 and Senior the way Senior intercounty is going S and C wise."
It was a crazy decision driven by some fantasy that gaa players are just gaa players, forgetting they are soccer players rugby players etc all who offered 18s grade. Imagine spending all that time trying to up participation only to hand them over at 18

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1662 - 05/12/2023 11:19:49    2515584

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Meath county board voting on minor reverting to u18 at first meeting of 2024. I'm guessing if minor goes to u18 all age groups below will also revert to even numbers.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 29/12/2023 09:50:32    2517804

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Replying To Brendanj:  "The really important question is, what age are counties decoupling at. Westmeath are going with even age grades in 2024 with decoupling at 18."
Most counties will decouple at 18, so 17 years old will not be allowed to play senior and 18 year Olds will be allowed to play senior, which doesn't really protect 18 year Olds from overtraining and over playing with multiple teams.

A rule to only allow u18s to play senior reserve games should be brought in to provide more protection 18 year Olds.

Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 23 - 02/01/2024 17:21:50    2518082

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I have always wondered why counties don't become more innovative with their agee grades to maximise (a) playing numbers (B) participation

If I was left in charge I would alternative the age groups or ensure all kids played in the community games

That would mean that you alternate 1st Jan cut off with 30th June cut off.
2024- even years 1st Jan
2025- odd years 30th June

That way the youngest kid at U8, moves up the following year to be one of the oldest at U9 and so on.

I would also have an U19 & U21 grade for players who aren't playing senior/junior

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 02/05/2024 07:01:03    2542385

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "I have always wondered why counties don't become more innovative with their agee grades to maximise (a) playing numbers (B) participation

If I was left in charge I would alternative the age groups or ensure all kids played in the community games

That would mean that you alternate 1st Jan cut off with 30th June cut off.
2024- even years 1st Jan
2025- odd years 30th June

That way the youngest kid at U8, moves up the following year to be one of the oldest at U9 and so on.

I would also have an U19 & U21 grade for players who aren't playing senior/junior"
Good idea. In Meath LGFA they run odd number age group leagues the first half of the year and even number in the second half of the year.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 02/05/2024 09:59:16    2542405

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Good idea. In Meath LGFA they run odd number age group leagues the first half of the year and even number in the second half of the year."
Ladies football is ahead of the men's game at this type of stuff.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 02/05/2024 10:42:14    2542415

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "I have always wondered why counties don't become more innovative with their agee grades to maximise (a) playing numbers (B) participation

If I was left in charge I would alternative the age groups or ensure all kids played in the community games

That would mean that you alternate 1st Jan cut off with 30th June cut off.
2024- even years 1st Jan
2025- odd years 30th June

That way the youngest kid at U8, moves up the following year to be one of the oldest at U9 and so on.

I would also have an U19 & U21 grade for players who aren't playing senior/junior"
That's unpractical and confusing for parents,kids and also leads to confusion.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 03/05/2024 08:54:17    2542573

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Replying To KillingFields:  "That's unpractical and confusing for parents,kids and also leads to confusion."
I'm glad somebody said it! Was having trouble getting my head around it myself, and I'd normally be good at that sort of thing. Now multiply that by thousands of teams, and tens of thousands of players....

Also, am thinking specifically of somebody like my nephew - currently 13 years old, and will turn 14 on June 29th.

2024 - even years age groups, so U14 - that's what he's currently playing.

But for 2025 - odd years age group, so U15, with a cut-off point of June 30th.

He'd already be 15 by the time of the cut-off point (by just one day), so that would make him overage for U15, despite how he'd be just 14 years old for half the year. He'd have to move up and play U17 instead.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2622 - 03/05/2024 13:11:11    2542643

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I've mentioned this before,why didn't croke park make the decision on the age groups besides saying to all counties,it's up to you whether you play even or odd..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2379 - 03/05/2024 17:55:19    2542700

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