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What is the reason for the lack of volunteering nowadays? Is it that begin a chairman, secretary, treasurer etc now requires so many different skills that people feel they cannot do the job or is it that the time required is too much. It seems that anytime positions come up in clubs they are always difficult to fill. journeyman (Limerick) - Posts: 141 - 13/11/2023 11:40:16 2512667 Link
A good secretary is worth 5/10 committee members. I feel people are afraid to volunteer for these roles now as its becoming more and more time consuming. Kudos to any person who gives up free time to a committee role Shearer (Louth) - Posts: 885 - 16/11/2023 13:13:11 2513346 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Have already clarified that my comments re. "won't do anything" referred specifically to won't do anything administration-wise, rather than won't do anything at all. And yes, coaching takes up a lot of time. But it doesn't stop you from being on a committee or taking up some other position as well. Have just looked through the list of names on my own club's committee this year - out of 19 officers/committee members, there are ten of us (myself included) who are also either a manager or a coach of a team, at levels from U8 all the way up to adult. The attitude of "I'd never do admin or committee work" just grates with me when you consider it's absolutely essential to the functioning of any club." I seem to have missed this Pikeman96 and yes it is vital to the functioning of the club but I am not sorry to say that I feel I give enough hours to our club without giving another evening of my time to sit in a committee meeting. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1259 - 16/11/2023 15:33:14 2513376 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "I seem to have missed this Pikeman96 and yes it is vital to the functioning of the club but I am not sorry to say that I feel I give enough hours to our club without giving another evening of my time to sit in a committee meeting." Well, I won't change you, and you won't change me. We'll just have to agree to differ. As they say, the world would be no fun anyway, if everyone was the same! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 16/11/2023 15:58:34 2513383 Link
Replying To journeyman: "What is the reason for the lack of volunteering nowadays? Is it that begin a chairman, secretary, treasurer etc now requires so many different skills that people feel they cannot do the job or is it that the time required is too much. It seems that anytime positions come up in clubs they are always difficult to fill." I know lads on committees that wouldn't know how to turn on a computer never mind send an email and others if you told them it was black they'd argue it was white. It's can be hard work dealing with people at the best of times (not always but it can...) and if everyone is not pulling their weight it becomes a thankless job. You'd want time & lots of energy to be involved in a club these days. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1024 - 16/11/2023 16:10:40 2513386 Link
Think the new committee will fill the positions in the first new meeting. Maybe they've done some networking or ask ones on the additional members list. Ah they can be a motley crew committees - best having people who can actually fulfil their positions rather than putting square pegs into round holes. Then having the one person on the commitee performing most of the roles. dunaval_gael (Down) - Posts: 43 - 16/11/2023 18:54:08 2513409 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Well, I won't change you, and you won't change me. We'll just have to agree to differ. As they say, the world would be no fun anyway, if everyone was the same!" We all have our things that float the boat. Indeed, we'll agree to differ. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1259 - 16/11/2023 21:10:35 2513421 Link
Lazy, that is the main reason people won't step forward and take positions on a club executive. You can argue that you spend hours every week coaching, which is true and commendable. A lot of coaches are involved because they have kids at that age group which doesn't always work well. The real good selfless coach is the ones who coach kids that are not his/her own. People who are on cttees have a tough job. Everyone on an executive should have a job to do. This can involve countless hours filling out grant applications, chasing money if you are involved with finance, chasing builders if there's a job to be done . Going to countless coaching meetings, Add on the PR of promoting the games and maybe match reports, then you have the governance of keeping the club within the boundaries. The monthly meeting of the exec is nothing compared to the work that goes on behind the scenes..... eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1957 - 17/11/2023 12:24:42 2513476 Link
The worst thing any club can do is have a good coach not out coaching players and have them in a committee instead. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1785 - 17/11/2023 15:48:40 2513516 Link
Our club went from having an agm with over 400 at it and every position as a contested vote to having to reschedule an agm due to too low a turnout in the space of 3 years. In fighting and general nepotism in the new committee has done away with at least 40% of our club members Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 175 - 17/11/2023 18:34:35 2513540 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "The worst thing any club can do is have a good coach not out coaching players and have them in a committee instead." Well, it's one of the worst things they could do. Another of the worst things would be not making sure it has a committee that's as functional, reliable and productive as possible, since absolutely nothing in the club works if the officers and committee members aren't doing their jobs properly. And coaching a team doesn't automatically preclude you from also being on a committee or sub-committee, as evidenced by myself and several others in my club. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 17/11/2023 18:54:17 2513543 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Well, it's one of the worst things they could do. Another of the worst things would be not making sure it has a committee that's as functional, reliable and productive as possible, since absolutely nothing in the club works if the officers and committee members aren't doing their jobs properly. And coaching a team doesn't automatically preclude you from also being on a committee or sub-committee, as evidenced by myself and several others in my club." Me too. And more in our club also. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 18/11/2023 10:31:04 2513592 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Me too. And more in our club also." Yeah a committee needs to work with agendas etc for meetings. People will get fed up if they go to meetings and there's no agenda or AOB or anything and people are just hand picked while others left out. dunaval_gael (Down) - Posts: 43 - 19/11/2023 07:15:45 2513697 Link
It's a balancing act. No point in having good coaches if the club isn't ran properly. Everyone has to be on the same wavelength. A chairman with no agenda for meetings or not calling them monthly, plus a heedless secretary that ignores emails and deadlines. A coaching officer that will allow unregistered players to play, a children's officer that allows coaches train teams with no courses.. A treasurer that's not on top of his game.The list is endless. Any one of the above could unravel the best coaching teams in the club. Very few people realise the work required at boardroom level until something goes wrong eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1957 - 19/11/2023 09:54:56 2513701 Link
Few things People might commit if they know: Meetings will be consistent - same day/time Last only 1hr - no waffle There is an agenda in advance and nothing will be allowed onto agenda at last minute unless directed by chairperson Minutes recorded properly (with timetable for action and those who had the responsibility) and read out at each meeting with matters arising discussed valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1900 - 19/11/2023 15:45:11 2513737 Link
It's one thing being on a committee but another being in on of the Executive role i.e Chairman, Secretary or Treasurer. These positions always seem to be hard to fill. Is there anything from Croke Park that could help incentivise more people willing to take on these roles? Maybe rules like Max 5 year term as I would think people feel they will be stuck in the role for ever if they take it on, provide training and a certification of administration that could be a recognised qualification for adding to a CV\Linked In etc, Maybe allow submission of volunteer hours and partner with some retail stores for vouchers or a discount loyalty card. journeyman (Limerick) - Posts: 141 - 20/11/2023 15:21:34 2513885 Link
Replying To journeyman: "It's one thing being on a committee but another being in on of the Executive role i.e Chairman, Secretary or Treasurer. These positions always seem to be hard to fill. Is there anything from Croke Park that could help incentivise more people willing to take on these roles? Maybe rules like Max 5 year term as I would think people feel they will be stuck in the role for ever if they take it on, provide training and a certification of administration that could be a recognised qualification for adding to a CV\Linked In etc, Maybe allow submission of volunteer hours and partner with some retail stores for vouchers or a discount loyalty card." Right enough. Some clubs don't have the 5 year rule. So they're just nominated every year for the same position. Ah most important think is they stick to the rules of conventional meetings. dunaval_gael (Down) - Posts: 43 - 21/11/2023 21:18:14 2514102 Link
Replying To dunaval_gael: "Right enough. Some clubs don't have the 5 year rule. So they're just nominated every year for the same position. Ah most important think is they stick to the rules of conventional meetings." Our officers are elected every year at the AGM Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 22/11/2023 10:29:51 2514131 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Our officers are elected every year at the AGM" Is it by the correct procedure by nomination sheet, signed and seconded 14 days before AGM or is it a nod and a wink the night of the AGM eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1957 - 22/11/2023 15:13:27 2514182 Link
Replying To eoinog: "Is it by the correct procedure by nomination sheet, signed and seconded 14 days before AGM or is it a nod and a wink the night of the AGM" Nomination sheets were emailed out 3 weeks ago. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 22/11/2023 16:43:15 2514196 Link