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Two More Rule Changes Proposed For Gaa Game Ough How Them Two Boyous Ruined Our Game

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Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3953 - 11/10/2023 13:49:07    2507886

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game."
Some fun implementing the kick out rule in Junior 2b game on a dark Oct/Nov evening with a gale force wind blowing straight down the pitch......

Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 176 - 11/10/2023 17:45:29    2507935

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game."
A bit early to have the rod out Tom?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9503 - 12/10/2023 09:45:34    2507980

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game."
Name the two "boy ours" instead of hiding behind your wellies.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2135 - 14/10/2023 02:54:48    2508297

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game."
The 2 boyos mc Guinness and Harte will be salivating at the new rules!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 362 - 14/10/2023 16:54:58    2508352

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Tomsmith here from Cavan

I hear that two named managers are back in Ulster managing.
I do hope that County L, Derry do not regress into a negative style of football under its new manager.
As for Macguinness well what can one say about him that hasent already been said, ,
I just wonder did the two of them just return for the love of the GAA game . Hu Hu

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3953 - 15/10/2023 10:32:15    2508410

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I hear that two named managers are back in Ulster managing.
I do hope that County L, Derry do not regress into a negative style of football under its new manager.
As for Macguinness well what can one say about him that hasent already been said, ,
I just wonder did the two of them just return for the love of the GAA game . Hu Hu"
Roll on next year to see Micky and Jimmy pit their knowledge against each other. What school did you go to that puts a L before Derry, maybe one of those fee paying ones like the rugby boyous. Hu, Hu.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2135 - 18/10/2023 17:42:38    2509117

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game."
2 good rules in theory. Small changes; easy to police and could have a good impact.

Kick outs to travel as far as the 45 makes a lot of sense. Throw in on the 45 if it doesn't make it that far.

I'd be a bit more worried about all frees between the 20m lines having to go forward. Sidelines yes; Marks yes; technical frees yes but contact related frees - I'm not as sure on that one as the incentive would be to drag a defender down around 25m out and push up - it would be up to the defender to not get close enough to be fouled which is against the spirit of the game. Maybe allow a "tap" free (i.e. a solo) in these cases and play on?

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 331 - 20/10/2023 10:01:17    2509362

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Replying To brianb:  "2 good rules in theory. Small changes; easy to police and could have a good impact.

Kick outs to travel as far as the 45 makes a lot of sense. Throw in on the 45 if it doesn't make it that far.

I'd be a bit more worried about all frees between the 20m lines having to go forward. Sidelines yes; Marks yes; technical frees yes but contact related frees - I'm not as sure on that one as the incentive would be to drag a defender down around 25m out and push up - it would be up to the defender to not get close enough to be fouled which is against the spirit of the game. Maybe allow a "tap" free (i.e. a solo) in these cases and play on?"
Why can't they also address the handball?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1871 - 20/10/2023 11:47:51    2509395

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Why can't they also address the handball?"
Address the handball? I can't see why not. But what do you do? Count the number of passes. If you receive a hand pass should you have to kick? There are a lot of different things to consider.

But first I guess the question Is if the handpassing the cause or a symptom of the back and forth. I think it might be a symptom of possession being made too safe and thus reducing real competition for the ball. Any rule that makes possession harder to maintain and introduces more competition for the ball will probably reduce handpassing - or at least the aimless hand-passing over an back that has come to dominate the game.

For me - a simple fix would be akin to the basketball back court rule. If you move the ball inside the 65 you can't pass it back over it. That would allow teams to genuinely push up if a team isn't moving forward with the ball.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 331 - 20/10/2023 14:28:46    2509464

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Replying To brianb:  "2 good rules in theory. Small changes; easy to police and could have a good impact.

Kick outs to travel as far as the 45 makes a lot of sense. Throw in on the 45 if it doesn't make it that far.

I'd be a bit more worried about all frees between the 20m lines having to go forward. Sidelines yes; Marks yes; technical frees yes but contact related frees - I'm not as sure on that one as the incentive would be to drag a defender down around 25m out and push up - it would be up to the defender to not get close enough to be fouled which is against the spirit of the game. Maybe allow a "tap" free (i.e. a solo) in these cases and play on?"
I think I like the Idea of the tap free, if all frees have to be kicked forward it will encourage cynical fouling.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 784 - 20/10/2023 21:38:48    2509519

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Has anyone attended freshers football to see how the new rules are working?I've seen two games in hurling,all puck outs seem to be going long and all forwards go outside 45..the hand pass is very hard to judge.a lot of players using Hurley instead of hand..I've seen a few players getting caught because they not sure about what hand they should be using..the refs on a couple of occasions were also getting confused..I'm not sure what I make of handpass trial..the puck out is leading to huge numbers between both 45s,forwards then all go back in..penalty for puck out not reaching 45 is a throw in on 21..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2344 - 26/10/2023 17:25:23    2510510

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A simple rule change that would make a difference by making it easier on referees to make the right call, is to have all technical fouls result in an indirect free kick.

Overcarrying, throw ball, pick off the ground etc are too leniently called. The sanction of a free in and a scoring chance against these infringements is too severe and therefore most refs are very hesitant to penalize a team in their own half.

The incentive to push up is reduced as its rare that a player carrying a ball out of defence will be pulled for steps. Much more acceptable if that brack of rules was a turnover of possession and not tap-over free from 25 yards

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1114 - 26/10/2023 21:35:49    2510550

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game."
Dunno about the kick-out going to 45m line. Won't that result in 29 players in a condensed area for kick-outs?

Two_Hops (Sligo) - Posts: 12 - 27/10/2023 10:08:12    2510582

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game."
Can you translate this please into English (or Irish)

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2565 - 27/10/2023 13:10:07    2510620

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Replying To Two_Hops:  "Dunno about the kick-out going to 45m line. Won't that result in 29 players in a condensed area for kick-outs?"
I think that's the way the trial has been going

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13547 - 27/10/2023 14:19:56    2510636

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I see the Gaa is proposing two more rule changes
No1 Kickout must travel beyond the 45 m line before the kickout team can touch it

No2 . All frees marks sidlelines ect taken between the two 20 m lines must travel forward.

Two good rules changes that are proposed for Higher Education competition.
But all as a result of them two Boyous that ruined our game."
Cork county football final on Sunday last between Castlehaven and Nemo Rangers, resembled a rugby game without the tackling. Hardly a forward pass in sight, the ball was passed sideways and backwards the whole game. Very little forward kicking, and the low scores reflected that. Ultimate defensive game for the mere 7,000 that bothered to turn up. At least Castlehaven won as Nemo were the main instigators of the drivel.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 362 - 31/10/2023 12:49:18    2511042

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "Cork county football final on Sunday last between Castlehaven and Nemo Rangers, resembled a rugby game without the tackling. Hardly a forward pass in sight, the ball was passed sideways and backwards the whole game. Very little forward kicking, and the low scores reflected that. Ultimate defensive game for the mere 7,000 that bothered to turn up. At least Castlehaven won as Nemo were the main instigators of the drivel."
People saying the Mayo Final was the worst game they'd ever seen.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1871 - 31/10/2023 15:06:13    2511066

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Can you translate this please into English (or Irish)
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2472 - 27/10/2023 13:10:07 2510620

Galway Ford of 2472 Posts

Tomsmith here

I remember when I was on two and Half thousand Posts I was like a Bold Boy .. ough I will take on the big Boys and teach them al esson, or in this case axk them a question,, How to translate this simple two part Post.
I say Galway ford the Post referred to the fact that the Gaa was looking at the Kickout travell over the 45 M line or in your case it would be the 50 Yard line and all free ect inside the 20 M line or as you would describe it the 21 one yard line to go forward.
As the great Mrs T often said you can preach and Teach but once -------- ingrained its no use trying

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3953 - 31/10/2023 22:44:56    2511115

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Any feedback on freshers game(s) since the rule was introduced or is there any of them on youtube to watch?

leitrimlad15 (Leitrim) - Posts: 108 - 06/11/2023 14:53:54    2511772

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