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Jimmy's Coming Back!

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Just announced on Raidió na Gaeltachta that county board is to meet with Jimmy MCGuinness with view to his coming back as county manager.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2663 - 17/08/2023 12:10:55    2500954

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Just announced on Raidió na Gaeltachta that county board is to meet with Jimmy MCGuinness with view to his coming back as county manager."
Great news for Donegal tbh.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3743 - 17/08/2023 12:25:19    2500957

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Just announced on Raidió na Gaeltachta that county board is to meet with Jimmy MCGuinness with view to his coming back as county manager."
Fantastic news if true.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9189 - 17/08/2023 12:31:01    2500964

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Let's hope he tries something different, for all our sakes :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8603 - 17/08/2023 12:45:37    2500965

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Thanks you Jimmy for destroying Gaelic football

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 269 - 17/08/2023 12:50:21    2500966

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Looking forward to seeing how he does. He had a fantastic squad last time out. Will he try to coax Murphy back for year? Should shake things up in Ulster.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4703 - 17/08/2023 13:28:24    2500976

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Fantastic news if true."
Great news for Donegal, you'll enjoy your holiday even more now. I'd have liked Jimmy, Enda Mc Ginley and Stephen O Neill in the Tyrone job but there seems to be a closed shop in Tyrone county board.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2023 - 17/08/2023 13:39:21    2500979

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Replying To Joxer:  "Looking forward to seeing how he does. He had a fantastic squad last time out. Will he try to coax Murphy back for year? Should shake things up in Ulster."
Murphy said 100% he is not coming back

Whestofthewest (Clare) - Posts: 160 - 17/08/2023 13:47:54    2500983

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "Thanks you Jimmy for destroying Gaelic football"
Hasn't been in charge since 2014, can't blame him 9 years later for perceived ills. Current coaches and administration should be sorting that.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1322 - 17/08/2023 13:48:10    2500984

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Replying To realdub:  "Let's hope he tries something different, for all our sakes :D"
That 2011 semi. Jzis :). Alan Brogan's quote about the start of the game.

"Then, the ball is tossed in the air by Maurice Deegan and as I watch it fall, I see Mark McHugh, Christy Toye and Frank McGlynn in my peripheral vision all sprinting from the Donegal half-forward line into their defence, completely ignoring the ball."

I'm sure he will come with different ideas. If he doesn't then let's hope they don't draw Derry in Ulster.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4703 - 17/08/2023 13:57:10    2500986

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As a neutral I would be delighted to see him back as he is a deep thinker and would def improve Donegal and make other managers think. I think he evolved every year. Yes in 2011 he had Donegal playing the most boring football ever but in 2012 they played some lovely stuff on way to winning Sam. Interesting times ahead of he gets the job!

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3687 - 17/08/2023 14:01:07    2500987

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Hasn't been in charge since 2014, can't blame him 9 years later for perceived ills. Current coaches and administration should be sorting that."
He's much blamed for things he had no part in!

2011 was a strange affair, and followed one of the most enthralling games I've watched when Donegal beat Kildare in the previous game. He spotted weaknesses in Dublin and almost made them pay price, Ironically sending off of Connolly may have opened up space that Dublin could exploit.

2014 has become stuff of legend. Dublin's failure to make dominance on scoreboard count was matched by Donegal ruthlessness in counter attack. Talking to some people you'd think Donegal won that by 0 - 7 to 0 - 6!

Probably did Dubs another favour that year. Be good to see back in my view.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2663 - 17/08/2023 14:05:08    2500989

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So its been weeks since this process started and they are only meeting with him now? Why they delay. I'd guess they have met already and things are at an advanced stage and Jimmy has now allowed it be known that they are to meet.
McGuinness would need to knock all his soccer nonsense on the head and commit to GAA again. I hope he does as its just want we in Donegal need.
Next steps, county board officers to step away and academy re-installed.

PeterQ92 (Donegal) - Posts: 108 - 17/08/2023 14:47:58    2501006

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Hasn't been in charge since 2014, can't blame him 9 years later for perceived ills. Current coaches and administration should be sorting that."
Correct, few years ago Magherafelt were playing keep ball for 5/6 minutes going nowhere, someone shouts, " I blame Micky Harte" , another fellow shouts" Micky Harte isn't here" . Same thing, teams play whatever way they want, no one is to blame.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2023 - 17/08/2023 15:02:41    2501012

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he was a blight on our great game, a blight it still has not recovered from, the thing is dublin cracked that game plan, its dated now, past its sell by date, while he might win ulster dublin and kerry have its measure

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2851 - 17/08/2023 15:06:46    2501013

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "he was a blight on our great game, a blight it still has not recovered from, the thing is dublin cracked that game plan, its dated now, past its sell by date, while he might win ulster dublin and kerry have its measure"
Dublin and Kerry play a similar form of the 2012 McGuinness system anyway so that's inaccurate. Also, who is to say he will take the same system of 9 years ago back in its identical tactical shape? Naive to think he will and won't have evolved his thinking around strategies. But happy for many to think that way!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1322 - 17/08/2023 15:30:47    2501022

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "he was a blight on our great game, a blight it still has not recovered from, the thing is dublin cracked that game plan, its dated now, past its sell by date, while he might win ulster dublin and kerry have its measure"
Funny thing is Stmunnsriver he actually turned over that great Dublin team in 14 with counterattack football, that team that was being lorded at the time nobody could touch. Maybe your memory dosnt remember good games. So what he developed a team to defend no end in 2011 remember that team that was being kicked out the door 5yrs previously, you remember that but can't seem to remember the next 3yrs.
Do your homework sir.

Tyrion (Donegal) - Posts: 160 - 17/08/2023 15:38:05    2501025

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10 years is a long time to make a return but Donegal have a long history of bringing back managers.

Jim when he took over the first time Donegal was in Div 2 underachieving and nobody tipping them to even win Ulster so are in the same place in 2024 although no peak Murphy, Lacey etc to build a team around this time.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3362 - 17/08/2023 15:41:24    2501028

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "he was a blight on our great game, a blight it still has not recovered from, the thing is dublin cracked that game plan, its dated now, past its sell by date, while he might win ulster dublin and kerry have its measure"
Donegal burnt up all of their energy by 2015 and retirements started them Dublin didn't crack it.

More a system that has evolved as Every team Dublin, Kerry included play a possession based game now with numbers back in defence when out of possession.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3362 - 17/08/2023 15:48:13    2501032

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "He's much blamed for things he had no part in!

2011 was a strange affair, and followed one of the most enthralling games I've watched when Donegal beat Kildare in the previous game. He spotted weaknesses in Dublin and almost made them pay price, Ironically sending off of Connolly may have opened up space that Dublin could exploit.

2014 has become stuff of legend. Dublin's failure to make dominance on scoreboard count was matched by Donegal ruthlessness in counter attack. Talking to some people you'd think Donegal won that by 0 - 7 to 0 - 6!

Probably did Dubs another favour that year. Be good to see back in my view."
Thank you Barney for probably the most insightful post I think I've read surrounding Jim's potential return.

I cannot stand the lazy, stupid analysis which seeks to attribute blame to McGuinness when it comes to discussing how football was played for a decade. Jim is a deep thinker, and devised a hitherto unseen set of tactics which suited his playing personnel. Ulster titles and an All Ireland duly followed.

Other teams aped his template. Noone had a gun to these coaches heads forcing them to do it.

It beggars belief that people seem to genuinely think Jim would come back in and try the same thing again. If you listen to the man, or read his articles, it's clear that he's as clued in to the current game as he ever was. But yeah, roll out the blanket and see if it works like it did over a decade ago. Jesus Chist Almighty...

If Jim comes back there are a few things which will definitely happen. Donegal will be fitter, stronger & perhaps most importantly of all will play with an intensity and an edge which has been lacking for a few years. Even if that doesn't lead to success in terms of silverware, I'll be happy enough as it will mean a squad of men will represent our county hokding nothing back.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9189 - 17/08/2023 16:02:37    2501037

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