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Ah, that old chestnut again about Under-21. :) I see you're just a new user here (unless you've re-registered under a different name), so maybe you don't realise how many times it's been pointed out already that no matter when it's played, people will complain. Anyway - "start two weeks after Senior finals" - I presume you mean after the football finals. So this year, U21 would be starting on weekend of October 28/29. Four weeks of U21 hurling and four weeks of U21 football would mean it would be December 16/17 before the finals would be finished, and that only if you were lucky enough not to lose at least one weekend to bad weather. And no matter what the weather, you'd have people saying "terrible they're making young lads wait until now before their championship even starts". As regards "not clashing with anything" - would be clashing with how six clubs would be representing Wexford in provincial club competitions at the same time. Five if one club happened to win two titles, but you get the idea. Also in case you don't realise - it was clubs who voted to run them midweek during the adult championships this year. And I happen to know the CCCC are fairly disheartened with how things have worked out, particularly with regards to football. Consider it from their point of view: - Clubs vote to run the U21 championships midweek - Clubs then enter a team in these championships. CCCC goes to work grading these teams, doing draws, and making fixtures. - Clubs then pull out their team at short notice, and complain that they're getting the very thing they voted for in the first place. I've had a lot of GAA jobs over the years, but have always said there are two I'd never do - be a referee, or be on the fixtures committee. And if pushed to do one or the other, think I'd prefer to be a referee than to have to deal with that other sort of stuff. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 12/09/2023 15:43:59 2504014 Link 0 |
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The fact you compete in Inter A is surely irrelevant. Geroid Hegartys club was Junior when he started out with Limerick, St James were a Junior hurling club when Matthew O Hanlon started out with Wexford. Conor Devitt was hurling Intermediate A when he started out with the county too. I realise that doesn't mean anyone from your club is good enough, but just because you are Intermediate A shouldn't exclude any of your players from Intercounty if they are good enough all the same.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 12/09/2023 16:10:31 2504019 Link 0 |
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Intermediate A includes Monageer-Boolavogue (club of Cathal Walsh, who was on the senior county panel this year) and St. Mary's Rosslare (club of Liam O'Connor who was also on it this year, and Naomhan Rossitter, who was on it up to last year). It also includes Kilmore (club of Tom Byrne, on the county panel up to last year). The man picking Rossiter and Byrne last year was Shane Roche, who played with the county for a nice few years too - including a Leinster Final and an All-Ireland semi-final - but who never played any higher than the third tier in club football either (his playing days straddled the time between the third tier being called Junior and then instead becoming Intermediate A). Clearly not the case that anybody can say "the club is only Intermediate A, so we wouldn't have any possible county players". Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 12/09/2023 17:03:37 2504027 Link 0 |
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Point taken. It's difficult. I suppose I'm coming from a place where I think there should equal focus on developing players (long term) and developing a panel for the season ahead (short-medium term). Would starting it one week earlier and having finals the first weekend in December work better? Surely the answer can't be to just throw in the towel and say it just won't work.
SunnySouthEast (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 12/09/2023 17:29:55 2504031 Link 0 |
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There not good enough though, we have a few who in latter years may have been but there over the hill now. Most players at that level are only lasting to early 30s at the most. It's a huge strain on the body physically and almost every other part of your life.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 12/09/2023 18:28:56 2504043 Link 0 |
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Did the ballyhogue and fintans game go ahead the weekend? No result for it on the website/twitter JT22 (Wexford) - Posts: 40 - 12/09/2023 21:27:37 2504056 Link 0 |
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It's an unbelievable commitment all the intercounty players make when you consider that they have to work also. Fair play to anyone that makes that commitment.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 13/09/2023 08:06:45 2504066 Link 0 |
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Match abandoned due to injury. Hope the lad isn't too bad.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 13/09/2023 08:10:18 2504067 Link 0 |
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I didn't say that. I stated what grade we are in to show that we don't have the pick or depth of higher grade clubs.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 13/09/2023 09:17:14 2504074 Link 0 |
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Was abandoned while level with a minute to go, as a Fintan's player suffered a suspected broken ankle, they didn't want to move him, and there was a long wait for an ambulance. Match is to be replayed on Friday evening after the clubs wouldn't agree a midweek fixture. Both clubs due to be in action again on Sunday - so two matches for them in less than 48 hours! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 13/09/2023 09:18:53 2504075 Link 0 |
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Anyone read the match report from the Castletown junior football game v Martins in todays paper? Dosent make good reading for a complete dis-regard for the referees authority. alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 427 - 13/09/2023 10:47:48 2504097 Link 0 |
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You'd imagine if the clubs were aware of the potential of 2 games in 48 hours there approach might have been different, seems mad having that short turnaround, even if midweek wasn't feasible could there games on Sunday have been pushed out to next Tuesday.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 13/09/2023 11:26:17 2504108 Link 0 |
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Have just read it now. Crazy stuff. There's no provision in the general Rule Book or in Wexford competition regulations or bye-laws to allow unlimited substitutions in a championship match, even if both sides agree. Bad enough that managers don't know the rules in the first place, but then Castletown going ahead and using extra subs anyway (according to the report), even after the referee told them they couldn't do so, is far worse. Rule Book states the possible penalties are forfeiture of the game, a fine, or an order that the game be replayed. Will be interesting to see what happens. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 13/09/2023 11:27:54 2504110 Link 0 |
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You could still have a star player or even 2?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 13/09/2023 11:38:30 2504114 Link 0 |
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I didn't come on here to blow smoke up the hole of my own club players.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 13/09/2023 13:21:52 2504139 Link 0 |
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That would seem to be the sensible solution. Making both teams play Friday & Sunday is madness. Surly, Friday & either Monday or Tuesday would be the right thing to do. Player welfare obvs top of the County Boards priority list! Albeit, reading the match report in todays paper, the game was nearly over, both teams could have agreed on a draw, as surly they knew it was going to lead to a cramped week or two. rossytilidie (Wexford) - Posts: 300 - 13/09/2023 13:22:29 2504140 Link 0 |
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The fixtures for Sunday (Ballyhogue v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown, and St. Fintan's v Bannow-Ballymitty) had already been officially announced and issued before the Ballyhogue v Fintan's match ended the way it did. This means they can only be switched to Monday or Tuesday if the other clubs involved agree to this. Now, it might still happen, if both Rathgarogue-Cushinstown and Bannow-Ballymitty are requested to do so, and do happen to agree. But essentially, that would mean those two clubs being asked to agree to a Monday or Tuesday night fixture that might not suit themselves, just to accommodate the refusal (for whatever reasons) of St. Fintan's and Ballyhogue to just agree a midweek fixture between themselves. As regards agreeing a draw in the match last weekend, seems Ballyhogue had just been awarded a very scoreable free before play was halted, so chances high they would actually have won the match. It's an awfully messy situation all round, though. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 13/09/2023 13:51:05 2504149 Link 0 |
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Pretty scathing report in the people on the St James v Shels game - anyone at it? papers never refused ink but it looked pretty bad. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1881 - 13/09/2023 13:58:28 2504151 Link 0 |
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Ironic thing is Ballyhogue and Fintans had a sticky situation before when the scoreboard in Bellefield had Ballyhogue up a point up when the game was actually level, think Ballyhogue were playing keep ball thinking they were a point up instead of pushing for a winner.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 13/09/2023 14:33:48 2504163 Link 0 |
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If any of them are good enough to be considered for intercounty then you suggesting them on a pretty irrelevant anonymous forum wouldn't be blowing smoke up their holes. It might even help the county team if other people agree with you and they turned out to be good enough. As it is 5 of the 6 players I suggested are good enough to have played for the county before at at least u20/1 or have been asked by Senior managers to join before. They are still good enough now if they could be persuaded to commit. Have you played with or against any of them? or even seen them play? If not it's not smoke you are blowing up a hole, but talking out of one. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 13/09/2023 15:15:54 2504172 Link 0 |