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From going to the however many intercounty Football games you went to this year what types and positions of players do you think we need most?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 12/09/2023 07:14:56 2503916 Link 0 |
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MJ is managing Oylegates footballers this year and Shane and Damien are playing
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 12/09/2023 07:21:10 2503918 Link 0 |
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It's so plain obvious your a taghmon man and cringy to be honest,
Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 472 - 12/09/2023 09:04:01 2503923 Link 0 |
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I've said many times on this I'm from Taghmon. Why would you post that it's so plain obvious and cringy when I've said where I'm from many times myself? I'd post under my own name only it's not allowed and might put pressure on lads who don't really want to to do likewise. From going to most of the intercounty Football games this year starting out in Patricks Park in January to Navan at the very end it's heartening to see John Hegarty has tackled the biggest issue of the last few years pretty well, that being the team conceding quick goals when turned over while on the attack. He also has us playing an attractive brand of football to watch, only Meath of the teams I saw this year live, or even on TV come to think of it, were more entertaining to watch. In the last 2 games in particular we had a strong looking team out, although they looked tired in Navan after the huge effort put in up in Tullamore, and when you add in Bealin up front, a good scoring forward, and Sheehan to that mix we should have one of the strongest teams in div4 next year barring injuries to key men like we had during the League this year. The main 2 types of player I think we could do with more of are scoring forwards who can score off both feet and physically strong mobile backs who play with a bit of bite. Shame Martin O Connor isn't coming back next year. A question was asked of posters on this who they thought might be an addition to the Football team. The only 2 forwards at our club that might be an addition straight away are Ian Carty and Stephen O Gorman. I don't think either are going to commit to the Footballers but that doesn't mean they aren't worth a shout. At the back David O Keefe and Barry O Gorman would both be worth a look at, as they both are well up to it as regards S and C and both have that bit of aggression. Both were skilful enough to kick ball for the county before. Now they might not commit either but both would be worth a look at. Instead of the pathetic childish post that I'm answering now why don't you suggest lads from your club who might be worth a look at? Or lads from other clubs either? Since the question was put up not one poster on this thread has suggested anyone except for me. If John Hegarty does bother looking at this forum lads like you are absolutely no additon at all to him so far. A complete waste of space. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 12/09/2023 09:52:49 2503927 Link 0 |
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You think taghmon are the only team with injuries? St martins have injuries too, daithi waters, oisin waters Philip Dempsey joe o Connor Rory o Connor didn't play against taghmon
Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 472 - 12/09/2023 09:53:03 2503928 Link 0 |
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Lads standing out in club games dosent necessarily mean they will fit John Hegartys game plan. He is going for lads that can get up and down the field. Unfortunately some players on the team/panel are lacking football skills ie scoring from distance to beat a blanket defense. I think this is why we have been stuck in division 4 for some time now. Maybe this is been coached out of them in the modern game.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 240 - 12/09/2023 10:15:17 2503933 Link 0 |
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I will hold off until the end of the group stages. Haven't seen enough games yet to make an honest assessment
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 240 - 12/09/2023 10:19:24 2503935 Link 0 |
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You are from a big club. Surely there are lads there that would improve our Senior intercounty squad? I've done my bit to answer your question. I wouldn't know any of your lads. I've only ever talked to 2 people from your club. Rory O 'Connor played with David O Keefe maybe get his opinion on whether or not David was worth a look for the Senior Footballers. Or ouur intercounty hurlers for that matter, a lad I watch games with who has multiple intercounty hurling all stars was impressed with his hurling and attitude this year too. The only 3 lads from Taghmon I suggested were good enough when a similar question to yours was posted on the Hurling thread a couple of years ago were Ian Carty, Stephen O Gorman and Cathal Doyle. All 3 got nominated for the club hurling team of the year last year. Ian got called in for a look this year and ended up a regular championship starter. Cathal scored 10 points from play off 3 different markers including a current senior intercounty footballer in the Intermediate semi final this year. For a team that lost! I don't have rose tinted Taghmon glasses welded to my head when it comes to our intercounty sides. I was never a good player, and am not that experienced as an underage mentor, but I've gone and watched many hundreds of intercounty hurling and football games, and watched many hundreds more on TV, and know a good player when I see one. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 12/09/2023 12:45:54 2503971 Link 0 |
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I agree 100%. I wasn't suggesting John would neccessarily like any of the lads mentioned on his panel, only that he should have a look at them. While I've talked to John a few times I wouldn't presume to tell him his job. Only that I think he's doing a good one. Lads like Matty Forde and Ciaran Lyng that can kick points from 40 yards are few and far between. Not just in Wexford but in the whole country. I agree that some of the coaching these days discourages younger lads from even trying. Possession is king- don't kick it away. The imported from soccer idea that the best way to prevent a team from scoring is to keep the ball as long as possible hasn't helped football I feel. Hopefully some top manager somewhere in the country will import the ideas Klopp came up with that won Liverpool a title without neccessarily having 70% plus possession in big games.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 12/09/2023 12:53:59 2503973 Link 0 |
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Tbh all the games I've been to so far have been pretty poor quality wise too. That's why I was unable to suggest too many lads from other clubs. Obviously lads from my own club I've seen alot more of in other years not just this year. Who from your club do you think might be an addition?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 12/09/2023 12:56:31 2503975 Link 0 |
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Carty and stephen o gorman are two im sure John would love to have on board, barry o gorman has all the attributes but has been there before couldnt see himself been interested any more, o keeffe is one of the most aggressive tight marking defenders in club football he is physicaly very strong, looks a bit on the slow side but looks can be decieving, Ronan devereux and Paddy devereux are two that I think make a big difference to the panel and im sure have been asked previous so maybe just not interested in committing lefty (Wexford) - Posts: 222 - 12/09/2023 13:39:31 2503979 Link 0 |
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I think that alongside player recruitment for the senior panel there should be a greater focus on bringing players through the ranks. The u-20 grade is very important in relation to this and I get the feeling it's importance can be overlooked. Can't expect to go around the clubs looking to unearth hidden gems if we haven't developed a progression pathway for them. Fixing u-21 games in the middle of Senior and Intermediate Championships was ridiculous. SunnySouthEast (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 12/09/2023 14:00:34 2503984 Link 0 |
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I'm not a st martins man by the way
Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 472 - 12/09/2023 14:08:27 2503986 Link 0 |
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Yeah I'm pretty sure Ronan Devereux would have been starting on the county team the last 2-3 years if he wanted to be there, Paddy is back the last few weeks after been in Canada for the guts of 2 years, not sure if its a holiday back like Paudie Foley, Rowan White etc. or back longer term.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 12/09/2023 14:23:23 2503994 Link 0 |
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Think its impossible to fix u21/u20 at a time to keep everyone happy, during the summer collides with adult championship, later in the year the trouble of bad weather could be a factor. earlier in the year you've county u20 teams and state exams for lads around 18/19.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 12/09/2023 14:26:00 2503995 Link 0 |
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Barry I'm not sure about either whether he would commit. But he would add a good bit of aggression at the back. As would David. At times this year I thought we were a little lacking that way, most notably when Antrim stepped it up a gear and won the game in a 10-15 minute spell after we had played really really well. I think a couple of that type of player might have given the team a lift up in Navan too, when the lads looked tired after Tullamore, and were also maybe a bit too respectful of Meath. I haven't talked to any of the lads about this. I really don't know if they would want to commit. But I do feel Wexford Football might be on the cusp of a little jump in fortune, and maybe if a few more lads committed we would be towards the top of division 3 in a couple of years. I really do believe we are only a few players short of having the panel to do that. Are the Devereux more hurling inclined? What about the Kinloughs?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 12/09/2023 14:30:33 2503998 Link 0 |
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No perfect solution but there have to be better ones. Start it two weeks after Senior finals. The weather might not be perfect but at least it's not clashing with anything. College football is only getting up and running at that stage. There were some very good footballers on that Wexford u-20 panel last year. Would love to see some of them pushed in the right direction so they can add to the Senior panel over the next few years.
SunnySouthEast (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 12/09/2023 14:39:30 2504002 Link 0 |
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Ah ok I did think you were a Vols man before but really it doesn't matter where you are from lad. You post a good bit about football surely there are lads at your club, whatever club that is, that might improve our Senior Football panel. Who do think these lads are?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14234 - 12/09/2023 14:58:16 2504005 Link 0 |
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As you said we need lads who can kick ball over bar 40 yards, but managers nowadays want athletes,
Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 472 - 12/09/2023 15:08:31 2504007 Link 0 |
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Nobody from my club would be good enough. We compete in Intermediate A.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 240 - 12/09/2023 15:31:08 2504011 Link 0 |