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My predictions for this weekend, a couple of good games that I am looking forward too. Alot of teams were down some key players through injury or being away for the first two rounds, having them back will have a big impact on some of the below
Crossabeg v Barntown - I think GB have been slightly unlucky in the first two games, they have some good footballers and I think can win this by afew points
Bunclody v Sars - The loser here will be under pressure, it'll be tight but I think the Sars might just edge it
Castletown v St Annes - I expected Castlletown to put in some big performances in the first two games after getting afew weeks of football under their belt, that hasn't happened and I think this will be tight if St Anne's can get afew people back that they were missing last weekend. Will give Castletown the nod in a tight game
Fethard v Starlights - Fethard improved alot last weekend on the first round performance, I expect them to build on that this weekend and get their first win. It won't be an easy game as Starlights need a performance after two very poor showings
Shels v St James - I've been very impressed with the shels and expect them to win by 4/5 points
Kilanerin v Gusserane - Kilanerin have been very impressive too, hard to go against them here. Gusserane have some very good forwards who can any team trouble.
Clongeen v Maudlintown - Clongeen have been missing some of their main men in the first two games, if they can get afew back I think they can get a win here
Martins v Taghmon - Taghmon went down fairly badly against Naomh Eanna, I'd expect Martin's to be comfortable enough here
Gorey v Ferns - Ferns only scored 2-6 the last day with an extra man for the majority of the second half and two extra men for 10 minutes. Gorey should win this, Ferns could be in trouble in this group
Horeswood v Cushinstown - Horeswood have some excellent footballers and will take some beating this year. I've been very disappointed with Cushintown, especially last week against bannow. Horeswood to win
Fintans v Ballyhogue - Fintans are my favourite to go down, they really look to be struggling based on the first two results. I think they will be more competitive here but I think ballyhogue will get the win
Bannow v Adamstown - hard one to call. Bannow would of been happy enough with the draw against Cushintown, Niall Harney is their main man and missing him this weekend will be a big loss. I fancy Adamstown to backup last weekend's win
JT22 (Wexford) - Posts: 39 - 08/09/2023 13:45:01
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Replying To Pikeman96: "So....you're saying your solution is to fix the match for the Thursday/Friday if the club asks far enough in advance?
What if most or all clubs put in that request? There are surely players in every club who'd like to go to EP if they were free to do so. Let's say they'd granted the requests to the clubs who put it in this year. Every other club who instead lined out without their Electric Picnic-ers would look and say "we'd better put in the same request next year, in case some of our lads want to go then as well".
Do you really think it would be feasible then to play most or all of the adult championship matches on the Thursday or Friday evening? That'd be up to 30 fixtures altogether, even without Junior B. Consider the number of venues, referees, linesmen, and gate people that would be needed, particularly since double-headers wouldn't be possible. Also consider throw-in times at venues that don't have lights.
And what of the impact on the underage championships? There were 22 matches played from U14 up to U18 over last Thursday & Friday, that couldn't have gone ahead if the referees who took charge of them were needed for adult matches instead.
Would it be fair to hold up the championships for 13- and 14-year-olds because some lads eight or ten years older want to go having the craic for the weekend?
Also the impact on ordinary club activity in venues like Oylegate, Bree, Monamolin, etc., that are often used to host matches. Say there are two or three club squads who normally train on Thursday/Friday evening (e.g. underage GAA, or underage or adult camogie and ladies football). They'd also be affected by a few lads wanting to head off on a sesh. Again, would that be fair?
Finally, even if a way can be found to put a free weekend into our club championships calendar, I'd suggest it should be kept as a moveable feast to accommodate replays in county semi-finals or finals, rather than a fixed date to allow lads to go off on the beer.
Does this at least partly answer your question "why can't they just accommodate the wishes of the players"?" I can't answer for him but I expect he is saying all the matches should be played on Thursday and Friday?
Could the chaps matches not be moved to Saturday and Sunday?
2 other questions to throw out because I do not know the answer:
1. How many floodlit pitches are there in Wexford?
2. Do clubs who host neutral matches get paid?
The biggest issue I would see logistically is where a junior or junior A club is due a home game and do not have floodlights, what then? Could the match be played at 12 o'clock on Saturday to facilitiate and then players could be at Electric Picnic by 3-4pm?
Remember the alternative is the matches go ahead without these players, is it better to have good players and accommodate them and make a better quality match or to let them go ahead and have a sub-standard match? I don't think Wexford football is in the place where it can choose the 2nd option.
When you were that age, assuming you like me in your 50s now did you never do anything other than GAA?
Its about facilitating players, not demonising them or making them make choices where the GAA gets 2 fingers.
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I can't answer for him but I expect he is saying all the matches should be played on Thursday and Friday?
Could the chaps matches not be moved to Saturday and Sunday?
2 other questions to throw out because I do not know the answer:
1. How many floodlit pitches are there in Wexford?
2. Do clubs who host neutral matches get paid?
The biggest issue I would see logistically is where a junior or junior A club is due a home game and do not have floodlights, what then? Could the match be played at 12 o'clock on Saturday to facilitiate and then players could be at Electric Picnic by 3-4pm?
Remember the alternative is the matches go ahead without these players, is it better to have good players and accommodate them and make a better quality match or to let them go ahead and have a sub-standard match? I don't think Wexford football is in the place where it can choose the 2nd option.
When you were that age, assuming you like me in your 50s now did you never do anything other than GAA?
Its about facilitating players, not demonising them or making them make choices where the GAA gets 2 fingers." To answer your questions:
- yes, moving underage matches to Saturday/Sunday would be an option that would partly solve the issues. Didn't think of it myself, so thanks for that.
- I don't know how exactly how many club pitches have floodlights, but off the top of my head can think of about twelve. There's also Wexford Park & St. Patrick's Park, and putting matches in the Centre of Excellence might also be an option. Some of the club pitches with lights aren't normally used as neutral venues for championship matches though, so there might be other reasons why they're "unsuitable".
- Yes, clubs are paid for the use of their grounds. Used to be €100 or 10% of the gate (whichever is higher), plus an extra allowance if floodlights involved. It went up this year, but not sure if to €150 or €200. Either way, it's still 10% of the gate if the figure works out higher that way.
Anyway, think the point is made by now that it's not as simple as "just put the matches on Thursday & Friday if the clubs ask for them that way", and anyone who was suggesting it now sees there are several issues to consider and challenges to overcome before it could be done.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 08/09/2023 15:18:35
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Replying To Pikeman96: "So....you're saying your solution is to fix the match for the Thursday/Friday if the club asks far enough in advance?
What if most or all clubs put in that request? There are surely players in every club who'd like to go to EP if they were free to do so. Let's say they'd granted the requests to the clubs who put it in this year. Every other club who instead lined out without their Electric Picnic-ers would look and say "we'd better put in the same request next year, in case some of our lads want to go then as well".
Do you really think it would be feasible then to play most or all of the adult championship matches on the Thursday or Friday evening? That'd be up to 30 fixtures altogether, even without Junior B. Consider the number of venues, referees, linesmen, and gate people that would be needed, particularly since double-headers wouldn't be possible. Also consider throw-in times at venues that don't have lights.
And what of the impact on the underage championships? There were 22 matches played from U14 up to U18 over last Thursday & Friday, that couldn't have gone ahead if the referees who took charge of them were needed for adult matches instead.
Would it be fair to hold up the championships for 13- and 14-year-olds because some lads eight or ten years older want to go having the craic for the weekend?
Also the impact on ordinary club activity in venues like Oylegate, Bree, Monamolin, etc., that are often used to host matches. Say there are two or three club squads who normally train on Thursday/Friday evening (e.g. underage GAA, or underage or adult camogie and ladies football). They'd also be affected by a few lads wanting to head off on a sesh. Again, would that be fair?
Finally, even if a way can be found to put a free weekend into our club championships calendar, I'd suggest it should be kept as a moveable feast to accommodate replays in county semi-finals or finals, rather than a fixed date to allow lads to go off on the beer.
Does this at least partly answer your question "why can't they just accommodate the wishes of the players"?" Whats wrong with the current system? The matches are set and any player can miss any game if they choose to go away to EP , Spain, or wherever. What's the problem lads are trying to solve on this thread?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13443 - 08/09/2023 16:02:27
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Big win for Bunclody tonight and should nearly qualify for the quarter finals although probably not guaranteed. Got over the line by a point. There a real momentum team they made the semi final a couple of years ago after coming up. Glynn Barntown winning by a point puts pressure on Crossabeg and Sarsfields now to avoid the relegation final although I would fancy them to beat the bottom of the other group in current form but still a long way to go. In saying that nobody will want to face the Shels or Kilanerin in the quarter finals so last few games should be interesting to see the final group stand kings in group A
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 08/09/2023 23:02:48
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Replying To Pikeman96: "To answer your questions:
- yes, moving underage matches to Saturday/Sunday would be an option that would partly solve the issues. Didn't think of it myself, so thanks for that.
- I don't know how exactly how many club pitches have floodlights, but off the top of my head can think of about twelve. There's also Wexford Park & St. Patrick's Park, and putting matches in the Centre of Excellence might also be an option. Some of the club pitches with lights aren't normally used as neutral venues for championship matches though, so there might be other reasons why they're "unsuitable".
- Yes, clubs are paid for the use of their grounds. Used to be €100 or 10% of the gate (whichever is higher), plus an extra allowance if floodlights involved. It went up this year, but not sure if to €150 or €200. Either way, it's still 10% of the gate if the figure works out higher that way.
Anyway, think the point is made by now that it's not as simple as "just put the matches on Thursday & Friday if the clubs ask for them that way", and anyone who was suggesting it now sees there are several issues to consider and challenges to overcome before it could be done." I'd imagine the 10% would be higher for most senior games. There were definitely over a 100 in to see Sars v Anne's in Taghmon.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13443 - 09/09/2023 09:29:33
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Replying To Pikeman96: "To answer your questions:
- yes, moving underage matches to Saturday/Sunday would be an option that would partly solve the issues. Didn't think of it myself, so thanks for that.
- I don't know how exactly how many club pitches have floodlights, but off the top of my head can think of about twelve. There's also Wexford Park & St. Patrick's Park, and putting matches in the Centre of Excellence might also be an option. Some of the club pitches with lights aren't normally used as neutral venues for championship matches though, so there might be other reasons why they're "unsuitable".
- Yes, clubs are paid for the use of their grounds. Used to be €100 or 10% of the gate (whichever is higher), plus an extra allowance if floodlights involved. It went up this year, but not sure if to €150 or €200. Either way, it's still 10% of the gate if the figure works out higher that way.
Anyway, think the point is made by now that it's not as simple as "just put the matches on Thursday & Friday if the clubs ask for them that way", and anyone who was suggesting it now sees there are several issues to consider and challenges to overcome before it could be done." Come to think about it there were more than 100 there for the Cushinstown v Shels Intermediate A hurling game also.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13443 - 09/09/2023 09:30:32
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Replying To Viking66: "Whats wrong with the current system? The matches are set and any player can miss any game if they choose to go away to EP , Spain, or wherever. What's the problem lads are trying to solve on this thread?" The point is that there are players who I know at home who were being asked to not go to Electric Picnic because they have a championship football match. And then being guilt tripped by the manager when they say nah screw that. As was said above, clubs had asked for matches to be played on the Thursday or Friday so why not accommodate?
My aussie rules team got a fixture list at the start of the year and are asked to flag then if there is any issues with the schedule. There was one weekend which one of the guys had a buck party and the game was moved to facilitate.
This sort of thinking is so absent in the GAA that people need not be surprised if players just say nah I'm going to EP.
But maybe teams don't want the best players on the pitch because I know at least 2 top club footballers who missed last weeks games for that very reason.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1777 - 09/09/2023 12:23:20
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Replying To StoreysTash: "The point is that there are players who I know at home who were being asked to not go to Electric Picnic because they have a championship football match. And then being guilt tripped by the manager when they say nah screw that. As was said above, clubs had asked for matches to be played on the Thursday or Friday so why not accommodate?
My aussie rules team got a fixture list at the start of the year and are asked to flag then if there is any issues with the schedule. There was one weekend which one of the guys had a buck party and the game was moved to facilitate.
This sort of thinking is so absent in the GAA that people need not be surprised if players just say nah I'm going to EP.
But maybe teams don't want the best players on the pitch because I know at least 2 top club footballers who missed last weeks games for that very reason.
Where there is a will, there is a way." If you start going down that route fixtures would be all over the place.
Why should electric picnic be more of a reason to move a match than let's say to avoid a clash with Ireland playing rugby, or a local league soccer match or for a variety of other possible reasons
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 530 - 09/09/2023 16:46:54
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Replying To StoreysTash: "The point is that there are players who I know at home who were being asked to not go to Electric Picnic because they have a championship football match. And then being guilt tripped by the manager when they say nah screw that. As was said above, clubs had asked for matches to be played on the Thursday or Friday so why not accommodate?
My aussie rules team got a fixture list at the start of the year and are asked to flag then if there is any issues with the schedule. There was one weekend which one of the guys had a buck party and the game was moved to facilitate.
This sort of thinking is so absent in the GAA that people need not be surprised if players just say nah I'm going to EP.
But maybe teams don't want the best players on the pitch because I know at least 2 top club footballers who missed last weeks games for that very reason.
Where there is a will, there is a way." If you moved all the fixtures to Thursday or Friday that wouldn't suit the majority of club players who aren't into going to the EP. You wouldn't be able to have double headers in the evening either. And would there be enough grounds with adequate floodlights for championship football? While we are on about adequate grounds and football being taken seriously in the county I went to the doubleheader in Bree, where there is no stand, no scoreboard, and again there were no linesmen.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13443 - 09/09/2023 20:54:49
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Was up at the double header in Bree. The 1st game was more open with 2 goals in no time, Clongeen starting brighter in the 1st quarter but seemingly were hampered by Curtis and Kent not being fully fit and fading as time went on. Mary's should've won by more, butchering some good goal chances in the 2nd half especially, and Clongeens second goal coming with the last kick of the game. Mary's now have 4 points which might be good enough for a QF place, as Clongeen and Ferns have no points so far and Taghmon only have 2.
The second game was a far more cagey affair, as Taghmon countered the fact they were missing so many lads with minor injuries and holidays by playing it fairly tight. Both sides kicked some horrible wides and dropped shots short despite there being no wind to speak of, although the game was alot tighter for space and time on the ball than the 1st game of the double-header.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13443 - 09/09/2023 21:15:18
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Designated free weekends 1 in hurling and 1 in the football or 1 at end of hurling if structure stays the same . Would be Fairest way try get 1 of them to conicide with ep whichever season it clashes with. If designated weekends at least players / coaches managers selectors club officials etc could plan any summer holidays around them.
Of course playing weekends would be reduced which would mean . But going forward if we do nothing the warning signs are there. If we don't do something more and more will walk away I m not just talking about players . The demands on coaches and mentors from senior to junior b are becoming unsustainable . Some do underage too or dual holy god u never get a break. Less and less are volunteering the demands are too much . And then players taking breaks during championship surely frustrates them too all could be solved with designated week or weeks off. If you can't arrange them tough luck . Should be known early in the year to plan.
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 282 - 09/09/2023 21:47:31
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things are spiking up nicely for the last 2 weekends, its looking between 3 teams kill/ctown and shels, but starlights could come with a late burst, who goes down is going to be some dog fight
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Replying To JT22: "My predictions for this weekend, a couple of good games that I am looking forward too. Alot of teams were down some key players through injury or being away for the first two rounds, having them back will have a big impact on some of the below
Crossabeg v Barntown - I think GB have been slightly unlucky in the first two games, they have some good footballers and I think can win this by afew points
Bunclody v Sars - The loser here will be under pressure, it'll be tight but I think the Sars might just edge it
Castletown v St Annes - I expected Castlletown to put in some big performances in the first two games after getting afew weeks of football under their belt, that hasn't happened and I think this will be tight if St Anne's can get afew people back that they were missing last weekend. Will give Castletown the nod in a tight game
Fethard v Starlights - Fethard improved alot last weekend on the first round performance, I expect them to build on that this weekend and get their first win. It won't be an easy game as Starlights need a performance after two very poor showings
Shels v St James - I've been very impressed with the shels and expect them to win by 4/5 points
Kilanerin v Gusserane - Kilanerin have been very impressive too, hard to go against them here. Gusserane have some very good forwards who can any team trouble.
Clongeen v Maudlintown - Clongeen have been missing some of their main men in the first two games, if they can get afew back I think they can get a win here
Martins v Taghmon - Taghmon went down fairly badly against Naomh Eanna, I'd expect Martin's to be comfortable enough here
Gorey v Ferns - Ferns only scored 2-6 the last day with an extra man for the majority of the second half and two extra men for 10 minutes. Gorey should win this, Ferns could be in trouble in this group
Horeswood v Cushinstown - Horeswood have some excellent footballers and will take some beating this year. I've been very disappointed with Cushintown, especially last week against bannow. Horeswood to win
Fintans v Ballyhogue - Fintans are my favourite to go down, they really look to be struggling based on the first two results. I think they will be more competitive here but I think ballyhogue will get the win
Bannow v Adamstown - hard one to call. Bannow would of been happy enough with the draw against Cushintown, Niall Harney is their main man and missing him this weekend will be a big loss. I fancy Adamstown to backup last weekend's win" Got to a few games this weekend. Felt sorry for Crossabeg, led the whole way but got caught at the end. They played some good football but it didn't resonate on the board. G/B stayed in game, have to say I think they have improved on last year. Joe Hagan doing must be doing great work there…
Got New Ross today, Shels ended up winning well but scoreboard didn't reflect as this game was a raw tough game. The James just don't have enough firepower, it's their Achilles heal, Shels finished well in fairness, and they certainly looking to be contenders.
Starlights got their first set of points, They have improved a lot since first 2 rounds and will be looking at a quarter final spot. Fethard were lacklustre today, was expecting more from them, but they still missing plenty but will need to get some points on the board. Eoin Whelan was a huge loss for them in 2nd half.
Kilanerin look great,the speed of attack,running off the shoulder.Some great scores by both teams in 1st half.Rossiter for Gusserane was a threat but was nullified in 2nd half.Cian Hughes's goals were class,a real handful,Niall Hughes was best midfielder by a mile,Dean O Toole scored some unreal scores&contributed plenty.They strong contenders.Was expecting more from Gusserane,looked like fitness not up to scratch, especially 2nd half as Kilanerin ran through them.Graham Cullen playing as sweeper had opposite affect as forwards were starved of ball.
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Replying To Tox73: "Got to a few games this weekend. Felt sorry for Crossabeg, led the whole way but got caught at the end. They played some good football but it didn't resonate on the board. G/B stayed in game, have to say I think they have improved on last year. Joe Hagan doing must be doing great work there…
Got New Ross today, Shels ended up winning well but scoreboard didn't reflect as this game was a raw tough game. The James just don't have enough firepower, it's their Achilles heal, Shels finished well in fairness, and they certainly looking to be contenders.
Starlights got their first set of points, They have improved a lot since first 2 rounds and will be looking at a quarter final spot. Fethard were lacklustre today, was expecting more from them, but they still missing plenty but will need to get some points on the board. Eoin Whelan was a huge loss for them in 2nd half.
Kilanerin look great,the speed of attack,running off the shoulder.Some great scores by both teams in 1st half.Rossiter for Gusserane was a threat but was nullified in 2nd half.Cian Hughes's goals were class,a real handful,Niall Hughes was best midfielder by a mile,Dean O Toole scored some unreal scores&contributed plenty.They strong contenders.Was expecting more from Gusserane,looked like fitness not up to scratch, especially 2nd half as Kilanerin ran through them.Graham Cullen playing as sweeper had opposite affect as forwards were starved of ball." CB are very unlucky to be pointless at this stage and may get something out of the last two games but they will need to get 3 out of the 4 points as they lost to the Sars. The games have all been very tight affairs CB has only go a -8 score difference after three games - St James at the bottom of the other group on -22, losing games by an average of 7pts. Hard to know really yet how to judge whats happening, Kilanerin and the Shels are clearly ahaead of the rest in group B but in A , while Castletown are winning they are not blasting their way through the group and there is nothing between the rest.
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Replying To Tox73: "Got to a few games this weekend. Felt sorry for Crossabeg, led the whole way but got caught at the end. They played some good football but it didn't resonate on the board. G/B stayed in game, have to say I think they have improved on last year. Joe Hagan doing must be doing great work there…
Got New Ross today, Shels ended up winning well but scoreboard didn't reflect as this game was a raw tough game. The James just don't have enough firepower, it's their Achilles heal, Shels finished well in fairness, and they certainly looking to be contenders.
Starlights got their first set of points, They have improved a lot since first 2 rounds and will be looking at a quarter final spot. Fethard were lacklustre today, was expecting more from them, but they still missing plenty but will need to get some points on the board. Eoin Whelan was a huge loss for them in 2nd half.
Kilanerin look great,the speed of attack,running off the shoulder.Some great scores by both teams in 1st half.Rossiter for Gusserane was a threat but was nullified in 2nd half.Cian Hughes's goals were class,a real handful,Niall Hughes was best midfielder by a mile,Dean O Toole scored some unreal scores&contributed plenty.They strong contenders.Was expecting more from Gusserane,looked like fitness not up to scratch, especially 2nd half as Kilanerin ran through them.Graham Cullen playing as sweeper had opposite affect as forwards were starved of ball." Who are Fethard missing ? Was expecting a lot more from them this year
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 10/09/2023 09:35:59
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Replying To StoreysTash: "The point is that there are players who I know at home who were being asked to not go to Electric Picnic because they have a championship football match. And then being guilt tripped by the manager when they say nah screw that. As was said above, clubs had asked for matches to be played on the Thursday or Friday so why not accommodate?
My aussie rules team got a fixture list at the start of the year and are asked to flag then if there is any issues with the schedule. There was one weekend which one of the guys had a buck party and the game was moved to facilitate.
This sort of thinking is so absent in the GAA that people need not be surprised if players just say nah I'm going to EP.
But maybe teams don't want the best players on the pitch because I know at least 2 top club footballers who missed last weeks games for that very reason.
Where there is a will, there is a way." I've given you several reasons to answer your question "why not accommodate?". It's not as simple as you seem to think.
And I've no idea at what level you're playing Aussie Rules, but if you're able to change matches because one lad wants to go drinking, then obviously you're not comparing like with like.
Imagine if the entire championship fixtures programme here had to revolve around somebody in one club wanting to go on a stag party, somebody in another club being invited to a 21st, a couple of lads somewhere else wanting to go to a concert, etc., etc...........!
To answer Viking's question of what problem are we trying to solve.....the only "problem" is that a relatively small number of players have to choose between a match and EP, and some people think everything should be re-arranged to suit them, despite the impact that would have on a far greater number of people.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 10/09/2023 13:24:03
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ITS A LONG TIME SINCE BUFFERS ALLY, RATHNURE AND OULART ALL WON FOOTBALL CSHIP GAMES ON THE ONE WEEKEND
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Replying To WexMurph: "Who are Fethard missing ? Was expecting a lot more from them this year" Yeah me too, Best football game in Wexford last year was certainly Fethard V Dunshaughlin. Don't think that they are missing so many it's more walking wounded. Brian Power and one of the Suttons in Oz, I don't see Ruari Tubritt either. Mikey definitely carrying injury same as Richie Waters, Cian Byrne out last week as well. They had a decent goal chance at a crucial time but unluckily came back off crossbar. There is a race to get to 1/4 final,all 3 Ross districts teams will fight it out for last place and to aVOID RELEGATION. Nothing between them with Gusserane in poll position at the moment.
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I've given you several reasons to answer your question "why not accommodate?". It's not as simple as you seem to think.
And I've no idea at what level you're playing Aussie Rules, but if you're able to change matches because one lad wants to go drinking, then obviously you're not comparing like with like.
Imagine if the entire championship fixtures programme here had to revolve around somebody in one club wanting to go on a stag party, somebody in another club being invited to a 21st, a couple of lads somewhere else wanting to go to a concert, etc., etc...........!
To answer Viking's question of what problem are we trying to solve.....the only "problem" is that a relatively small number of players have to choose between a match and EP, and some people think everything should be re-arranged to suit them, despite the impact that would have on a far greater number of people." That's not a problem that needs to be solved Pikeman. If anyone wants to go EP let them go. The show must go on though.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13443 - 11/09/2023 08:01:04
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