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Good question. I'm just presuming they go to relegation final, because some quirk in the rule book means that any relegation play-off is treated as a new competition, and I presume they can't be thrown out of a new competition because of something they did in this one. But since you ask, I'm not 100% sure. I'll try find out. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 18/09/2023 15:57:20 2504647 Link 0 |
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Yeah I think it makes a massive difference. Both Cushintown and horeswood would be seen to have under performed in the group and as a result will more than likely end up facing the Martin's, although they haven't blown teams away in every game they still will be the team everyone wants to avoid.
JT22 (Wexford) - Posts: 40 - 18/09/2023 16:54:20 2504654 Link 0 |
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I think they automatically get relegated. I could be wrong though
JT22 (Wexford) - Posts: 40 - 18/09/2023 16:55:55 2504655 Link 0 |
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Seen most of the teams at least twice and some more than that. Agree Martins have the most potential but they haven't really stood out so far. They aren't like Oulart were in Intermediate hurling last year. Alot will depend on them getting injured players back for the knockout games. And obviously on the day alot will depend on the bounce of the ball. Plain old fashioned luck!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 18/09/2023 17:26:22 2504661 Link 0 |
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Looking at the results seems they were comfortable in 3 of the 4 games and sounds like the game against yourselves was an example of everything wrong with modern football.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 18/09/2023 17:34:58 2504664 Link 0 |
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I remember last year, Clongeen were relegated to Junior B (i.e. without a play-off) after they pulled out of the Junior A championship then. Difference though was that they announced they were pulling out of the championship altogether, and were deciding themselves not to play a relegation final and so accept the drop to Junior B. Shamrocks have instead conceded two 'single walkovers' and been expelled, rather than withdraw of their own accord. So unclear if they're actually entitled to a relegation final if they want one. Suppose there's the chance they might give a walkover in that too. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 18/09/2023 17:42:09 2504666 Link 0 |
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Just checked last years junior a knockout no relegation final clongeen were relegated . They gave a few walkovers in grouo stage . Still not sure if automatic relegation or did nt want to stay up. No fixture on website to say conc for relegation though .. Be unfair on another team to play all their games and risk injury to then play another team that could ve taken decision to rest players. . Although if u could field a team I d imagine most would . One can happen to any club in lower divisions with 2nd 3rd teams due to many factors but you would try anything to field a team rather than be thrown out if it was your first team. Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 282 - 18/09/2023 20:47:11 2504683 Link 0 |
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I think st James can still make the top four, if they beat fethard(which tu think they will)and starlight lose to gusserane by 5 point swing. Maybe I am wrong
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1017 - 18/09/2023 20:48:17 2504684 Link 0 |
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St Martins are a far cry from the team they had a few years back. Daithi Waters dominating midfield and Lyng up front thought they would dominate for a while but there probably rebuilding a bit with younger players and haven't got the quality they had and while I'd have them as favourites they will be challenged hard in the knockout stages.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 18/09/2023 22:23:52 2504701 Link 0 |
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Certainly a big hole left there with those three gone. I think Brendan Hughes went abroad too so there's another number missing. A good crop of 20s coming through but could be a few years before we see Fintan's back challenging for Intermediate
wexican7 (Wexford) - Posts: 6 - 19/09/2023 05:19:55 2504713 Link 0 |
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Waters was very good in his prime. Hurt the county footballers when he had his brief spell with the hurlers. Ciaran Lyng was an unbelievable player. If he had of been from Kerry or Dublin he'd of won all stars.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 19/09/2023 09:12:56 2504726 Link 0 |
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It was a truly terrible game to watch. Think the uncertainty over what exactly the procedure would be if more than 2 teams are tied played a part. And the goals Taghmon conceded against Gorey the round before.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 19/09/2023 09:16:27 2504728 Link 0 |
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They probably would narrow that score difference anyway when beating Fethard if that Starlights are beaten and they win it would most likely send them through. However I think the Starlights may have one last kick in them yet. On the other side, its almost a toss of a coin between St Annes and CB, The Sars would need CB to win and they beat GB which amazingly would put them through into fourth and the Annes in a relegation final. Have to go with GB winning even though they are already qualified. Kilanerin and Shels is a strange one, neither will want to lose but given the 3/4 placed teams on the other side do they need to be going at it full belt. I cannot see them not going full blooded but taking care with injuries etc. both teams will have their 2nds involved in the playoffs as well so they will not want to use any more senior players. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1881 - 19/09/2023 09:46:51 2504741 Link 0 |
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They have given 3 walkovers including a walkover in round 5 before round 4 was even played
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 530 - 19/09/2023 10:12:46 2504751 Link 0 |
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Yeah i think you could be right, they would be level on points and a draw on the head to head so score difference would come in then. I think its going to be a weekend for the Co Board for have the calculators working overboard! tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 19/09/2023 10:33:44 2504759 Link 0 |
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This is real technicality, but they've actually given two walkovers. As a result, they're expelled from the competition, and don't even have the option of conceding a walkover to St. Joseph's. The points have instead been awarded by the CCCC to St. Joseph's on foot of that expulsion, rather than on foot of Shamrocks deciding themselves to concede a third walkover. I realise all three outcomes look the same on the Wexford GAA website, but I suspect that's down to just how there's only a certain number of ways that things can be displayed there. As I said, it's a real technicality, but it's likely to be the difference between Shamrocks still having the opportunity to play a relegation final this year, whereas Clongeen last year didn't do so after they took the decision themselves to withdraw completely. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 19/09/2023 12:15:45 2504792 Link 0 |
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Last year, Clongeen withdrew and decided to accept relegation before the championship even started. Again, I realise that the website shows 'w/o' and 'conc.' for what should have been their first two fixtures, but not for the other three. Just speculating here, but guessing that maybe those fixtures had been put on the system before they actually decided to withdraw, and so some sort of 'result' had to be entered for them, but then the other three fixtures were never added to the system at all. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 19/09/2023 12:43:30 2504798 Link 0 |
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Its going to be a tricky one. On the face of it it seems a bit bizarre that a team can just not bother put a team out for the championship or the vast majority of said championship and be allowed to still save themselves with one chance win in a relegation final. Throw in the fact this is Shamrocks one and only team and they could be playing another club that have put an effort in but may have lost players etc to that clubs first team. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 20/09/2023 09:56:31 2504890 Link 0 |
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Have been talking to somebody who's in a proper position to know about such things, and he tells me Shamrocks will have a relegation play-off all right. As I suspected, it's due to a relegation play-off being treated as a new competition, which they've 'qualified' for by virtue of finishing bottom of their group in this one. And because it's a new competition, they can't be expelled from it at this point, because they've done nothing wrong in that one yet.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 20/09/2023 15:48:47 2504972 Link 0 |
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That's setting a dangerous precedent Pikeman.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13447 - 20/09/2023 16:40:32 2504988 Link 0 |