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2023 WEXFORD FOOTBALL C SHIP

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Ironic thing is Ballyhogue and Fintans had a sticky situation before when the scoreboard in Bellefield had Ballyhogue up a point up when the game was actually level, think Ballyhogue were playing keep ball thinking they were a point up instead of pushing for a winner."
I suppose that's worse than the situation in Bree where there was no scoreboard for an Intermediate championship game last weekend, or Patricks Park where the shutters got pulled on it an hour before throw in in the 2nd game of the day for an Intermediate championship game 2 weeks ago!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 13/09/2023 15:34:43    2504174

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Replying To WexMurph:  "I didn't come on here to blow smoke up the hole of my own club players."
Part of the problem with Wexford GAA teams in the last 30 odd years, and maybe a long time before that, is the misconception that how good or bad a player is depends on what parish his parents lived in

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 13/09/2023 15:48:24    2504176

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Replying To Viking66:  "I suppose that's worse than the situation in Bree where there was no scoreboard for an Intermediate championship game last weekend, or Patricks Park where the shutters got pulled on it an hour before throw in in the 2nd game of the day for an Intermediate championship game 2 weeks ago!"
I was at the match in bree, there was no need for a scoreboard.

Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 250 - 13/09/2023 16:47:44    2504186

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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "I was at the match in bree, there was no need for a scoreboard."
True: D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 13/09/2023 17:36:16    2504191

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Predictions for the weekend ahead (I only do senior as I like to have a bet and see how they go)

Castletown v Sars: Castletown by 4
Glynn v St Anne's: Draw
CB v Bunclody: Bunclody by 2

Shels v Gusserane : Shels by 4
Starlights v St James: Starlights by 2
Kilanerin v Fethard:Kilanerin by 6

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 78 - 13/09/2023 18:06:16    2504198

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Replying To zinny:  "Pretty scathing report in the people on the St James v Shels game - anyone at it? papers never refused ink but it looked pretty bad."
No coincidence the same journalist wrote the two scathing match reports I reckon!

Longtimefirsttime (Wexford) - Posts: 1 - 13/09/2023 21:53:29    2504218

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Replying To Longtimefirsttime:  "No coincidence the same journalist wrote the two scathing match reports I reckon!"
Just out of interest do all the journalists who write the match reports on the games for the People Paper actually go to all the matches they do write ups for?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 14/09/2023 10:52:56    2504238

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Replying To Viking66:  "Just out of interest do all the journalists who write the match reports on the games for the People Paper actually go to all the matches they do write ups for?"
Yes, maybe that wasn't a serious question!

rossytilidie (Wexford) - Posts: 296 - 14/09/2023 10:57:45    2504240

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Replying To Viking66:  "Just out of interest do all the journalists who write the match reports on the games for the People Paper actually go to all the matches they do write ups for?"
The vast majority of the time, yes they do. I'm talking probably high 90s in terms of a percentage.

Occasionally, if there are more matches on at a particular time than there are reporters available, they'll prioritise the higher grades, and a club secretary or PRO or other will get a phone call asking them to keep notes for their team at a Junior or Junior A match - e.g. starting team, subs used, scorers, and key moments.

Reporter will get the notes from both sides afterwards and put together a match report from them. A trained eye can generally spot them - they tend to be shorter and less detailed than the other reports, e.g. "a goal midway through the second half" rather than "a goal in the 43rd minute".

Has to be said the paper does a great job in having reports from all matches. Echo used to be the same when it was in operation. There are several other counties where the local papers report only on the higher grades, and all you get from the lower ones is results & fixtures.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1797 - 14/09/2023 11:20:07    2504244

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "The vast majority of the time, yes they do. I'm talking probably high 90s in terms of a percentage.

Occasionally, if there are more matches on at a particular time than there are reporters available, they'll prioritise the higher grades, and a club secretary or PRO or other will get a phone call asking them to keep notes for their team at a Junior or Junior A match - e.g. starting team, subs used, scorers, and key moments.

Reporter will get the notes from both sides afterwards and put together a match report from them. A trained eye can generally spot them - they tend to be shorter and less detailed than the other reports, e.g. "a goal midway through the second half" rather than "a goal in the 43rd minute".

Has to be said the paper does a great job in having reports from all matches. Echo used to be the same when it was in operation. There are several other counties where the local papers report only on the higher grades, and all you get from the lower ones is results & fixtures."
I also think their coverage is excellent. Even underage games get covered!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 14/09/2023 13:25:24    2504259

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The standard of football has not been brilliant over the first 3 weeks, I don't think all that rain will help...

One thing I noticed about the football is there seems to be very little interest in it even on this forum, go back two months and it was busy with predictions/discussion on the weekends games but has not been near as busy since the football. That probably shouldn't suprise me really.

I was at the Cushintown/bannow and Fethard/Gusserane double header in Ross for round two and couldn't believe how little people were in there for a double header with 4 new Ross district teams in it.

JT22 (Wexford) - Posts: 23 - 15/09/2023 15:37:41    2504375

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Replying To JT22:  "The standard of football has not been brilliant over the first 3 weeks, I don't think all that rain will help...

One thing I noticed about the football is there seems to be very little interest in it even on this forum, go back two months and it was busy with predictions/discussion on the weekends games but has not been near as busy since the football. That probably shouldn't suprise me really.

I was at the Cushintown/bannow and Fethard/Gusserane double header in Ross for round two and couldn't believe how little people were in there for a double header with 4 new Ross district teams in it."
There would've been a better crowd there if the 4 clubs were playing eachother at hurling for sure.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 9720 - 16/09/2023 06:26:42    2504403

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "The fixtures for Sunday (Ballyhogue v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown, and St. Fintan's v Bannow-Ballymitty) had already been officially announced and issued before the Ballyhogue v Fintan's match ended the way it did.

This means they can only be switched to Monday or Tuesday if the other clubs involved agree to this.

Now, it might still happen, if both Rathgarogue-Cushinstown and Bannow-Ballymitty are requested to do so, and do happen to agree.

But essentially, that would mean those two clubs being asked to agree to a Monday or Tuesday night fixture that might not suit themselves, just to accommodate the refusal (for whatever reasons) of St. Fintan's and Ballyhogue to just agree a midweek fixture between themselves.

As regards agreeing a draw in the match last weekend, seems Ballyhogue had just been awarded a very scoreable free before play was halted, so chances high they would actually have won the match.

It's an awfully messy situation all round, though."
From what I've heard to be fair it' was really just one of the clubs pushing for this game to be played when it was on the Friday night.

I was talking to one of the people involved in fixtures who told me that one of the clubs involved Ballyhogue, had no problem playing Wednesday/Thursday etc and wanted to get the game finished before moving on to the next round which has been pretty much normal procedure really but the other objected citing a 4 day rule which meant the game ended up being played when it was.

Again why would Cushinstown or Bannow agree to move their game and why should they, it's not a mess of their making.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1239 - 16/09/2023 08:27:05    2504407

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Glynn Barntown through now are they potential dark horses probably guaranteed second spot now with a game to spare. Quarter final against st James starlights or Gusserane. Always felt they had better footballers if they gave it a good crack. Castletown guarantee top spot after winning easily and can start building towards a quarter final. Haven't been at any games but hope to get to the quarter finals

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 78 - 16/09/2023 08:47:34    2504410

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Replying To WexMurph:  "Glynn Barntown through now are they potential dark horses probably guaranteed second spot now with a game to spare. Quarter final against st James starlights or Gusserane. Always felt they had better footballers if they gave it a good crack. Castletown guarantee top spot after winning easily and can start building towards a quarter final. Haven't been at any games but hope to get to the quarter finals"
Castletown not quiet guaranteed 1st spot yet if they lose to Bunclody and Bunclody beat Crossabeg today, no coincidence to see Glynn improvement with Joe Hagan in charge seems to rise the fortunes of whichever club he's involved with.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1165 - 16/09/2023 09:46:08    2504412

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Replying To JT22:  "The standard of football has not been brilliant over the first 3 weeks, I don't think all that rain will help...

One thing I noticed about the football is there seems to be very little interest in it even on this forum, go back two months and it was busy with predictions/discussion on the weekends games but has not been near as busy since the football. That probably shouldn't suprise me really.

I was at the Cushintown/bannow and Fethard/Gusserane double header in Ross for round two and couldn't believe how little people were in there for a double header with 4 new Ross district teams in it."
I think alot of neturals go to hurling games in Senior but in football vast majority go to watch their own club and that's it, county Senior final is the only game usually to draw a decent crowd in football.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1165 - 16/09/2023 09:48:10    2504413

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Replying To WexMurph:  "Glynn Barntown through now are they potential dark horses probably guaranteed second spot now with a game to spare. Quarter final against st James starlights or Gusserane. Always felt they had better footballers if they gave it a good crack. Castletown guarantee top spot after winning easily and can start building towards a quarter final. Haven't been at any games but hope to get to the quarter finals"
Bunclody can still finish top if they beat crossabeg and castletown in their final two games if barntown lose to sarsfields. And if barntown win it will go to score difference between the 3 so nothing is guaranteed just yet.
After today though the top 3 should be secured you would think as bunclody are going well and crossabeg heading towards relegation.
Barntown are starting to click and look like they will be right there in contention at the end along with castletown shelmaliers and kilanerin. Joe Hagan has done a great job so far and with the panel they have they could finally get over the line this year.
The other group looks poor with shels and kilanerin easily winning their matches, james' gusserane or fethard will probably be crossabegs opponents in the dreaded relegation match with one of the above and starlights getting the last 2 quarter final spots.

Final group predictions
Group A
Castletown
Barntown
Bunclody
Annes
Sarsfields
Crossabeg

Group B
Kilanerin
Shelmaliers
Starlights
Gusserane
James'
Fethard

Castletown barntown shelmaliers and kilanerin all winning their quarter finals and fethard getting relegated.

hurlin101 (Wexford) - Posts: 102 - 16/09/2023 10:41:10    2504419

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Replying To hurlin101:  "Bunclody can still finish top if they beat crossabeg and castletown in their final two games if barntown lose to sarsfields. And if barntown win it will go to score difference between the 3 so nothing is guaranteed just yet.
After today though the top 3 should be secured you would think as bunclody are going well and crossabeg heading towards relegation.
Barntown are starting to click and look like they will be right there in contention at the end along with castletown shelmaliers and kilanerin. Joe Hagan has done a great job so far and with the panel they have they could finally get over the line this year.
The other group looks poor with shels and kilanerin easily winning their matches, james' gusserane or fethard will probably be crossabegs opponents in the dreaded relegation match with one of the above and starlights getting the last 2 quarter final spots.

Final group predictions
Group A
Castletown
Barntown
Bunclody
Annes
Sarsfields
Crossabeg

Group B
Kilanerin
Shelmaliers
Starlights
Gusserane
James'
Fethard

Castletown barntown shelmaliers and kilanerin all winning their quarter finals and fethard getting relegated."
Hard to see Castletown being bet by Bunclody in the last game but Crossabeg are struggling but wouldn't be guaranteed to be in relegation yet. St Anne's have to win there last game and so do Sarsfields to be guaranteed safety. Still a lot of twists and turns in both groups

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 78 - 16/09/2023 11:22:02    2504423

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Castletown not quiet guaranteed 1st spot yet if they lose to Bunclody and Bunclody beat Crossabeg today, no coincidence to see Glynn improvement with Joe Hagan in charge seems to rise the fortunes of whichever club he's involved with."
Was he ever involved with the senior footballers?Knows the club scene inside out. Think he was involved with Waterford when they beat us in the championship a couple of years ago.

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 78 - 16/09/2023 11:26:12    2504424

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Replying To tearintom:  "From what I've heard to be fair it' was really just one of the clubs pushing for this game to be played when it was on the Friday night.

I was talking to one of the people involved in fixtures who told me that one of the clubs involved Ballyhogue, had no problem playing Wednesday/Thursday etc and wanted to get the game finished before moving on to the next round which has been pretty much normal procedure really but the other objected citing a 4 day rule which meant the game ended up being played when it was.

Again why would Cushinstown or Bannow agree to move their game and why should they, it's not a mess of their making."
You have it spot on there. I had all the info myself at the time of my earlier post, but decided to hold back a bit rather than be seen to be pointing the finger too much in one direction. But now that you've done so yourself.....yes, let's just say there was only one of the two clubs being awkward about it, and it wasn't Ballyhogue.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1797 - 16/09/2023 22:41:07    2504470

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