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Why does it bother you so much what they do over there? Genuine question. Did your club at home suffer irreperable damage by a couple of young fellas heading away one year or what? Your description of their competitions as "mickey mouse low level football" is both factually incorrect and insulting. I played in New York many years ago and let me tell you, if you went into a game not fully tuned in you'd very soon know about it. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 15/08/2023 11:23:37 2500609 Link 2 |
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You keep talking about NY, I'm talking Chicago and Boston. I'm not talking about young fellas heading away for a year or two which seems to be a "must do" these days, good luck to them. Most of them play amateur gaelic games wherever they stop for a while. I'm talking the 2 month semi pros who pad out teams and get their pockets well stuffed for doing so. I don't blame the lads, but the GAA facilitating it and looking the other way (possibly to stop the illegal business that used to happen). Any team signing temp pros should be required to field an American born player for each of them.... Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 15/08/2023 12:51:54 2500623 Link 1 |
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NY, Boston, Chicago wherever. So a tiny percentage of players do what you've described. Again, I say so what? You've yet to give your opinion on the many coaches and managers receiving payment this side of the Atlantic. If you're going to open up the US "semi-pros" as you call them, can of worms, why don't we get it all out on the table?
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 15/08/2023 13:37:03 2500629 Link 0 |
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Start a new topic so, this one is about players in U S.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 15/08/2023 16:08:34 2500663 Link 0 |
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Nice deflection. Can you answer this question then? Why does the "payment" of a negligible amount of county players going to the US for a couple of months bother you so much? Is it because it totally undermines the amateur ethos of the GAA? What is your opinion on county players getting a few bob from a club for presenting medals to underage players at a club social event?
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 15/08/2023 16:27:02 2500666 Link 0 |
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They're not signing up to play for the club for $. Why are you so wound up because I don't like the American semi pro circus? Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 15/08/2023 17:42:36 2500672 Link 0 |
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Lockjaw from County Donegal Tomsmith here I resent the fact that you seem to condone Money Bags in the USA taking sorry buying in players for two moth . lockjaw what is your views on pay for play Lockjaw what is your views on findrs fees ie the local club man that get paid for pinpointing a good Club player who has no allegence to his club. Sort of **** them style fellow Lockjaw what is your views on the local fellows who are dropped to make way for the Imports Lockjaw what is your view on some of these money Bags having no Youth Policy Answer those question and please dont muddy the waters about managers in Ireland getting paid I await the spoke person for the Usa money Bags reply tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4030 - 15/08/2023 23:18:34 2500705 Link 0 |
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The GAA is still totally amateur. If guys/firms over here want to pay a few lads a few thousand for a few months, great all around. Visa rules n club championships in Ireland rule out more than a 2-3 month stay over here. Just relax n think of it like this. I went to Malaysia for 2 months of the summer and taught in an English language camp and got cash in hand for it. I went to the USA for 2 months too, kicked some football, and got cash in hand for it also. What's the real difference? What's your gripe? I don't get where your gripe is coming from? foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2202 - 16/08/2023 03:11:48 2500709 Link 1 |
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What about the Dublin semi pro circus? Is that not more alarming than a few lads having fun in the states for a summer
sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1206 - 16/08/2023 14:47:57 2500807 Link 1 |
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How much are the Dublin bucks getting paid?
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 16/08/2023 15:58:45 2500836 Link 0 |
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Because I have friends and family involved in the GAA in the States and no better men & women you could meet. Your attitude towards the way they run things is downright insulting.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 17/08/2023 09:05:52 2500906 Link 1 |
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Tom, write a coherent message in structured sentences & I'll respond. I'm off abroad here for a few weeks. No sign of any nefarious local GAA folk offering me money to play football so you can sleep soundly. Take care now.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 17/08/2023 09:09:38 2500907 Link 0 |
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You would have to check the Galway bucks bank account
sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1206 - 17/08/2023 10:24:09 2500917 Link 0 |
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Very thin skinned!! I detest their hiring temporary semi pros for their main competition full stop. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 17/08/2023 10:31:26 2500920 Link 2 |
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OK. But they're still receiving monetary reward owing to their status as an elite GAA player, which us essentially the same as what happens with players in the US.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 17/08/2023 10:34:41 2500922 Link 0 |
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Don't worry about my skin son.. We only get one shot at this life so I encourage everyone to maximise their time & make the most of their talents. Any begrudery around that should be best ignored. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 17/08/2023 12:29:53 2500961 Link 2 |
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Spot on Lockjaw.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15673 - 17/08/2023 16:28:03 2501050 Link 2 |
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And sod all that oul guff about playing for your own place, or someplace you have a strong connection to, the foundation of and unique thing that marks gaelic games out as special. Serve all those monied oul sugar daddies in the likes of and Chicago and Boston better to put their money into spreading gaelic games among young people in those places. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 17/08/2023 17:37:10 2501062 Link 1 |
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Agreed totally. Either shape up or ship out Tom, and that's just when it comes to the basic aspect of penning a sentence in understandable English. I'll be nice to you Tom. You can even use British English. You don't have to get up to speed and all fancy and intellectual now, by using American English. The Queen's finest will suffice for you Tom, as I'm sure it has done in every way for the county of Cavan for centuries now. And guys, I'm being metaphorical when I say "shape up". I wouldn't want any of you to suffer sleepless nights or even nightmares at the visual imagery of 'Tom Smith here' trying to do a lap of Breffni Park. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2202 - 18/08/2023 02:56:33 2501090 Link 0 |
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I'm not saying that at all. I would say that 95% of GAA is still as you describe. It is unique and special. But you're making it sound as though there is a major problem with most of our elite players being corrupted in some way and crossing the Atlantic in their droves to chase the Almighty dollar. It simply isn't the case. Its a handful of players each summer in the grand scheme of things. It's not like professional soccer players heading off to Saudi now is it? Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 18/08/2023 12:25:48 2501150 Link 0 |