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Intriguing clash of styles. Kerry being hyped up for their win over Tyrone but realistically Tyrone are probably 4th in Ulster now. Clifford v McKaigue will be titanic. Derry force teams to play 15 on 15 so will Clifford, Geaney etc track back. Derry probably have been waiting for this game all year while Kerry will just looking to get through it. How do people see this one going? 97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 376 - 15/07/2023 11:29:34 2494457 Link 0 |
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If Tyrone had their ducks in a row I still think they are a better team than Derry, Derry may have won 2 Anglo Celts in a row but I don't rate them as All Ireland contenders at all tbh, I see Kerry winning this comfortably enough in the end but it will probably be close till round the hour mark. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3023 - 15/07/2023 12:22:40 2494467 Link 0 |
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I think Kerry might get a narrow win. Some people are predicting a surprise result this weekend. It could happen in this game.
thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 15/07/2023 12:24:38 2494470 Link 0 |
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This is a hard game to call in my opinion. Have Kerry timed their run or were Tyrone just so bad they last day out. I haven't been overly impressed with Kerry this year, they are not Dublin 2017 for instance. Derry actually match up pretty well. Is there a better man marker than Chrissy McKaigue- he has struggled with an achillies injury but if fully fit there is no one you would rather have on Clifford. Conor McCluskey could well pick up Paudie Clifford and that would be another great match up. McKinless or McGrogan picking up Seanie O'Shea. Midfield wise Glass and Rogers are better than Barry and O'Connor- Derry could target that area. The one issue for Derry is that if Kerry tie up McGuigan with Jason Foley on him then is there enough firepower to get Derry over the line. That is the million dollar question. I expect Kerry to cede the kick outs to Derry so it will be slow build up play. Kerry on the turnovers could be deadly. McFaul is quality but hasn't just hit the heights. I expect Ethan Doherty to have his hands full with Gavin Whyte. Paul Cassidy is good for a point or two so needs a good game. I would also be concerned at the goals conceded against the top teams in Croke Park. Two against Galway and four against Dublin. Give Kerry a two goal start and it's over so we need to limit them to a maximum of one goal. All in all I am travelling in hope rather than expectation. It will take an enormous performance from us to win. As long as the lads do themselves justice that is all you can ask. See where it takes us. Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 210 - 15/07/2023 13:06:59 2494481 Link 0 |
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I'm just looking at statistics. Derry only conceded 10 scores on last years semi v Galway and albeit Dubs won league final easy this year Derry again only conceded 10 scores (,albeit 4 of them were goals). Derry actually outscored Dublin 11 to 10. No doubt Derry very hard to play against and could be an intriguing game. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3842 - 15/07/2023 13:18:40 2494485 Link 0 |
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I think Kerry have timed their run but also think Tyrone made them look good. I thought there would be a kick in Tyrone but they had just been poor all year. Derry very different and have been a form team. I would agree defensively and at midfield ye match up well. It will be interesting to see if McGuigan is tied up can others chip in with scores. Bench coming into the last 10-15 could also be crucial if tight. Do Derry have the depth to push them on in that last quarter of the game? MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 15/07/2023 15:02:21 2494504 Link 0 |
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We have the depth to bring on guys who will keep the energy levels high but is there enough quality on the bench overall? Probably not. Not at this level. However say McKaigue, McKinless, Glass, Rogers, McFaul and McGuigan all have good games, then we have a chance. Big games need big game players. A lot of guys felt they had not done themselves justice last year against Galway. So I just hope they do themselves justice this time around.
Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 210 - 15/07/2023 16:05:32 2494516 Link 0 |
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Derry will be closer to winning one than Donegal will be in the next 10 years anyway.
PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 246 - 15/07/2023 20:24:22 2494621 Link 0 |
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After tonight Kerry will be well aware of Northern threat and will adapt accordingly. Jack O'Connor has been around too long not to have a game-plan for Derry. Expect a dour slow game but like tonight the foot passing/kicking team will win out, Best team will win by 5 or so and I expect that to be Ciarraí!! dingle2 (Kerry) - Posts: 278 - 15/07/2023 22:43:18 2494666 Link 1 |
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highdropingball (Donegal) - Posts: 110 - 16/07/2023 00:08:17 2494683 Link 1 |
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I don't think Derry will get near Kerry to be honest. I think Kerry will beat them by 8 pts at least. Remember Dublin put 4 past them a few months ago. They didn't impress against Cork at all. Despite having one of the best midfielders in Conor Glass they don't have enough talented forwards to really hurt Kerry whose defence has really improved. Mind you I am looking forward to the Clifford v McKaigue dual. Game to be over after 40 mins - especially if the conditions improve avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 16/07/2023 11:13:50 2494729 Link 1 |
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Kerry for me , and your right it would be an upset, one i dont see happening
germac (Down) - Posts: 554 - 16/07/2023 11:32:01 2494735 Link 0 |
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If Derry drop a sweeper and slow Morley to Sweep for Kerry, it's game over. Tyrone did this and never looked like getting a goal. Derry need one or more green flags to win the game and their chances are serIously diminished if they don't force Morley to pick up a marker KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 16/07/2023 12:36:08 2494748 Link 0 |
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McKaigue is the 'dual' player in that duel, but both are jewels.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 16/07/2023 12:52:20 2494750 Link 1 |
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Kerry going to do what they need to do in the 2nd half. Probably will keep Derry at arms length for most of the game keeping a 4 - 5 point buffer between them and Derry. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3846 - 16/07/2023 13:24:40 2494761 Link 0 |
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Nope
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8154 - 16/07/2023 13:39:38 2494767 Link 2 |
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I stand duly corrected.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 16/07/2023 14:29:56 2494785 Link 1 |
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Poor enough turn out. The same Kerry ones who didn't turn up today will be moaning and yapping about final tickets. Away with ye. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9784 - 16/07/2023 15:36:40 2494798 Link 0 |
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Will need to be a match where around 1-13 is enough to win in order for Derry to cause upset today.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3487 - 16/07/2023 15:50:48 2494801 Link 0 |
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Derry are not a top team. They're quite a good team, but not AI winners. Tyrone is going through a terrible period, with very obvious management and squad morale issues at play. Wishing Derry all the best, but I can't see them coping with Clifford. Without Clifford, it'd be close, but with Clifford ... points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 274 - 16/07/2023 15:52:31 2494802 Link 1 |