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Derek Kent is right, how can likes of Laois, Carlow, Westmeath qualify while likes of Tipp and Waterford are eliminated. The loser of McDonagh certainly shouldn't be qualifying Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2116 - 09/04/2025 18:34:06 2601276 Link 0 |
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Once upon a time there was a qualifier group. The top 2 from the qualifier group qualified for the Leinster quarter finals. When the round robin provincial championships came in, the qualifier group evolved into the McDonagh Cup. As it wasn't practical for the top McDonagh teams to enter the Leinster championship of the same year, the All Ireland preliminary quarter-finals was the compromise and the sweetener for McDonagh counties facilitating the provincial group structure. Carlow will say they will miss out the promotion that hosting an All Ireland preliminary quarter-final can bring. For the McDonagh Cup to possibly gain bigger match days, two counties hosting McDonagh Cup semi finals in front of big crowds should be the target. It would need at least 8 teams for semi finals to be practical. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8689 - 09/04/2025 20:58:20 2601296 Link 0 |
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It might have been an advantage to Waterford or Tipp if there was relegation in Munster over the last couple of years.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3490 - 09/04/2025 22:42:40 2601309 Link 0 |
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Here's a much better idea. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 829 - 09/04/2025 23:46:19 2601317 Link 0 |
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Oh, we don't forget that Laois caught Dublin one year. It's the result that's always used in any argument to maintain the link between the Liam McCarthy Cup and the Joe McDonagh. But here's a thing. Of the other nine preliminary quarter-finals played so far since the system was introduced, the average winning margin for the McCarthy Cup team has been 17 points. Just once was the winning margin in single digits - that was when Cork beat Offaly by "only" nine points last year (4-25 to 3-19). I stand to be corrected on this, but I can think of no other sport where the winners of a secondary competition are springboarded into the latter stages of a higher competition, after some teams who began in that higher competition have already been eliminated. My view would be to get rid of the link between the McDonagh and McCarthy. Let the Joe McDonagh Cup winners finish their year on the high of winning it, rather than going out a week or two later against a stronger team and probably being beaten by double digits. And let the McDonagh runners-up finish their year with just that one disappointment, instead of also having to go out again and suffer a probable heavy defeat against a team from a higher level that they haven't even qualified for in the following year. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2810 - 11/04/2025 10:05:33 2601481 Link 2 |
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Get rid of it Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 91 - 11/04/2025 13:49:17 2601513 Link 0 |
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The new league format should be a game changer. Down and Kildare get to take on Clare and Wexford next year. The preliminary quarter finals could be revisited. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8689 - 11/04/2025 14:31:10 2601514 Link 1 |
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They could properly celebrate by not having a 6 day turnaround.
Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 532 - 11/04/2025 15:15:07 2601517 Link 0 |
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They could properly celebrate if they had something like a 40-week turnaround. From the McDonagh Cup Final around early July one year, to Round 1 of the senior championship around Easter of the following year :)
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2810 - 16/04/2025 14:23:40 2602233 Link 0 |
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Well put Pikeman
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15357 - 16/04/2025 14:51:19 2602246 Link 0 |
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If Wexford had been relegated would you still have the same view?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1553 - 16/04/2025 15:11:52 2602251 Link 0 |
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Absolutely.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15357 - 16/04/2025 15:20:32 2602255 Link 0 |
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They can still get relegated, they could be relegated any year
WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 331 - 16/04/2025 15:50:03 2602259 Link 0 |