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With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 22/06/2023 13:31:23    2488408

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Replying To avonali:  "With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport"
Every sport is the same.
there is plenty of older viewers with family or have the tech expertise to watch games
if it means some older viewers have to go to neighbours or their local pub or their local club to watch a game is it not better than them sitting at their home alone watching the game on RTE?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3746 - 22/06/2023 13:37:30    2488411

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Replying To avonali:  "With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport"
You mean a sport that was set up 80 years before RTÉ TV came into existence?
Also people who go to games have to pay in. Is that against an ethos too?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2275 - 22/06/2023 13:42:20    2488413

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Replying To avonali:  "With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport"
What should they do?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7927 - 22/06/2023 13:49:11    2488416

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Replying To avonali:  "With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport"
Those games weren't available before.

They're putting on Mayo Galway on RTE1 in addition to Tailteann Cup games at the same time. We've a lot of games in a short window, that's the issue. There isn't the bandwidth to have them all free to air on RTE.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4516 - 22/06/2023 13:53:09    2488419

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Replying To avonali:  "With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport"
When you have such a condensed season is difficult to show every game. How would it be physically possible to show every game last weekend?
Take the 2 Tailteann semi finals. The GAA promised last year to televise the semi finals and final . What did they do this year? Put Mayo and Galway on at the same time.
RTE have both channels on . What more can they do

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 22/06/2023 13:57:42    2488421

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For so many years I'd say confidently less than half of these games were on tv, just the radio. It's not as if they were all on RTE and have now been taken away. There's never been as many games available to view as there is now, and people are still complaining.

It's all online now across every sport essentially, not just GAA. My only issue with is the price, its very expensive. GAAGO is a very good service and the interview and analysis you get on it is fair better than RTE's.

TobeaRossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 164 - 22/06/2023 14:08:57    2488427

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Replying To avonali:  "With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport"
RTE are showing far more GAA games now, than they did 40 or 50 years ago.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2740 - 22/06/2023 14:12:15    2488430

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Replying To avonali:  "With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport"
Another example of "glass half empty". RTE is still showing as many matches now as it ever did. An alternate "glass half full" view would be that in addition to how RTE are still showing the same number of games, it's wonderful that a whole range of additional games are also available through a different medium, and how can that be a bad thing?

I'm often both amused and bemused too by how it seems acceptable to suggest that older people who want to see these additional games are incapable of learning how to do so. It's actually a very insulting and ageist suggestion when you think about it, that just because you're over a certain age, you're automatically unable to do something that others can.

My mother is in her late 70s, and my father is in his early 80s. They have a GAA GO subscription, and make use of it regularly. They also regularly watch club games here in Wexford when they're being streamed. And these are people who weren't always technologically-minded. Probably 20 years or more ago now, my mother once asked me "how does the paper go down the line when you're sending a fax?" (honestly!), and my father could never programme a VCR. So if they can learn, anybody can.

And before anybody starts about "the poor old people in areas without good broadband", that applies equally to younger people in those areas too.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 22/06/2023 14:15:31    2488431

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I think it's great that so many games are available, whether they be free to air or online. GAA Go is a wee bit steep for one off games at €12 a pop. But an annual subscription is great value. An ideal Christmas present.

Broadband coverage is getting better all the time and it's not exactly rocket science putting GAA Go on a laptop and using a HDMI cable to connect to the TV. Are we assuming that all our old folk are toothless simpletons or something? Even if they can't manage it, it's a two minute job for a kindly neighbour or relative to sort out.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9746 - 22/06/2023 14:56:36    2488450

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Another example of "glass half empty". RTE is still showing as many matches now as it ever did. An alternate "glass half full" view would be that in addition to how RTE are still showing the same number of games, it's wonderful that a whole range of additional games are also available through a different medium, and how can that be a bad thing?

I'm often both amused and bemused too by how it seems acceptable to suggest that older people who want to see these additional games are incapable of learning how to do so. It's actually a very insulting and ageist suggestion when you think about it, that just because you're over a certain age, you're automatically unable to do something that others can.

My mother is in her late 70s, and my father is in his early 80s. They have a GAA GO subscription, and make use of it regularly. They also regularly watch club games here in Wexford when they're being streamed. And these are people who weren't always technologically-minded. Probably 20 years or more ago now, my mother once asked me "how does the paper go down the line when you're sending a fax?" (honestly!), and my father could never programme a VCR. So if they can learn, anybody can.

And before anybody starts about "the poor old people in areas without good broadband", that applies equally to younger people in those areas too."
Fair play to them Pikeman. They probably get a great sense of achievement from figuring out tech stuff too and getting them to work.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7927 - 22/06/2023 15:13:59    2488454

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Another example of "glass half empty". RTE is still showing as many matches now as it ever did. An alternate "glass half full" view would be that in addition to how RTE are still showing the same number of games, it's wonderful that a whole range of additional games are also available through a different medium, and how can that be a bad thing?

I'm often both amused and bemused too by how it seems acceptable to suggest that older people who want to see these additional games are incapable of learning how to do so. It's actually a very insulting and ageist suggestion when you think about it, that just because you're over a certain age, you're automatically unable to do something that others can.

My mother is in her late 70s, and my father is in his early 80s. They have a GAA GO subscription, and make use of it regularly. They also regularly watch club games here in Wexford when they're being streamed. And these are people who weren't always technologically-minded. Probably 20 years or more ago now, my mother once asked me "how does the paper go down the line when you're sending a fax?" (honestly!), and my father could never programme a VCR. So if they can learn, anybody can.

And before anybody starts about "the poor old people in areas without good broadband", that applies equally to younger people in those areas too."
Spot on Pikeman!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15560 - 22/06/2023 15:14:05    2488455

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Reading this thread, you might actually think RTE are good.......

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 22/06/2023 15:36:04    2488464

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I think it's great that so many games are available, whether they be free to air or online. GAA Go is a wee bit steep for one off games at €12 a pop. But an annual subscription is great value. An ideal Christmas present.

Broadband coverage is getting better all the time and it's not exactly rocket science putting GAA Go on a laptop and using a HDMI cable to connect to the TV. Are we assuming that all our old folk are toothless simpletons or something? Even if they can't manage it, it's a two minute job for a kindly neighbour or relative to sort out."
Also there's a package for clubs to show matches in clubhouses, wouldn't it be great if clubs were showing these games to help isolated people to see the game and socialise and bring people together.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 22/06/2023 16:09:31    2488471

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I think it's great that so many games are available, whether they be free to air or online. GAA Go is a wee bit steep for one off games at €12 a pop. But an annual subscription is great value. An ideal Christmas present.

Broadband coverage is getting better all the time and it's not exactly rocket science putting GAA Go on a laptop and using a HDMI cable to connect to the TV. Are we assuming that all our old folk are toothless simpletons or something? Even if they can't manage it, it's a two minute job for a kindly neighbour or relative to sort out."
€12 and you can turn it off when you like… great value.
€25 for Donegal V Monaghan and your car blocked in around Jackson's Hotel when you decide to go early having watched enough of that S@@@e!
Easy choice..

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 22/06/2023 16:10:55    2488473

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "€12 and you can turn it off when you like… great value.
€25 for Donegal V Monaghan and your car blocked in around Jackson's Hotel when you decide to go early having watched enough of that S@@@e!
Easy choice.."
Nothing beats being there ;)

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9746 - 22/06/2023 16:52:31    2488486

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "€12 and you can turn it off when you like… great value.
€25 for Donegal V Monaghan and your car blocked in around Jackson's Hotel when you decide to go early having watched enough of that S@@@e!
Easy choice.."
You won't have threat of prison if you don't pay for GAAGO either!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7927 - 22/06/2023 17:33:44    2488499

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More important for the elderly is to ensure team colours are contrasting. My eyesight is deteriorating and I found it difficult to distinguish between Armagh and Galway strips at the weekend. Both wore white shorts, and, to my eyes, dark jerseys.

befair (Down) - Posts: 238 - 22/06/2023 18:10:17    2488502

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Easy to see now why Ryan Tubridy jumped ship, he knew what was coming, makes me sick to think we are forced to pay a licence fee to pay out over half a million a year to the the likes of him, over and under the table,
great wee country all the same.
And him on there most Friday nights crying about raising money for the latest charity or other, and they are another bloody racket.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3175 - 22/06/2023 18:42:19    2488508

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Replying To avonali:  "With the increasing number of IC games now only accessible to those with technology and decent broadband you could only. conclude that RTE is no longer bothered to cater for its older viewers. I think it's shameful. The GAA doesn't seem to bother either. It's always about the bottom line now and that goes right against the ethos of our national sport"
Spot on avonali.

RTE are a public broadcaster and we pay the license to support it. The GAA would tell you that their job is to promote the national games. How are they promoting it by hiding some of the best games behind a paywall?

Of course, we have the usual "I'm all right, Jack" crew on here, caring about nobody but themselves, which attitude only encourages the GAA in its pecuniary ambitions. Make no mistake about it; the GAA are mainly to blame, not RTE.

Does anyone remember when TG4 showed the first Saturday evening under floodlights match broadcast? It was between Cork and Kerry in Pairc Ui Rinn, and it was a right good match, which my brother attended while I watched it on TV. Not long after the GAA took those matches off TG4 and gave them to pay channel Setanta.

Then they took free-to-view matches off TV 3 and gave them to Sky.

On both occasions they lied that it was to make the games more available to Irish people living abroad. On both occasions, it was simply about more money.

But go ahead and support those lying greedy people. They're only laughing at you.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 644 - 22/06/2023 18:48:46    2488510

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