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New 40K Stadium Required In Middle Of Country

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Aren't the gaa struggling to fill their existing stadia more than once or twice a year, often not even once, without building another one? A 40k one no less.
One advantage is It may stop the silly clamour from some people to fix every second game (regardless of importance or how many will attend) for Croke park, therefore reducing the borderline embarrassing spectacle of watching the players perform on front of 70 000 empty seats, but I doubt it.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 07/06/2023 11:24:56    2484690

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "There are two fine stadiums already in Dublin, Croke Park and Aviva Stadium. Both should be available for all team sports. Croke Park for All-Ireland finals and any other games (GAA, soccer, rugby, etc.) that might exceed a 50k attendance.
The Aviva could be used for games where the attendances won't exceed 50k (it would be ideal for the Leinster Final).
This is a common sense solution, so it has no chance of happening."
Yeah a 9 a side leinster final, you do know a rugby pitch is way smaller than a GAA pitch?

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1959 - 07/06/2023 11:58:53    2484707

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "There are two fine stadiums already in Dublin, Croke Park and Aviva Stadium. Both should be available for all team sports. Croke Park for All-Ireland finals and any other games (GAA, soccer, rugby, etc.) that might exceed a 50k attendance.
The Aviva could be used for games where the attendances won't exceed 50k (it would be ideal for the Leinster Final).
This is a common sense solution, so it has no chance of happening."
How are you going to fit a Leinster Final, or indeed any GAA match, into the much smaller dimensions of the pitch in the Aviva Stadium?

The "common sense" you talk about should tell you that it simply isn't possible.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 07/06/2023 12:01:47    2484709

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Not that long ago we had too many houses. Drive through every single town and village in rural Ireland and even in most cities - and on the main street of all those towns and villages are multiple empty houses (and also businesses). Right on the edge of every road is a new-ish housing estate. Theres no shortages of houses. The two problems are - Irish people are too entitled and would rather complain than live in an old house and the second is that town and county councils arent forcing the owners into doing something with them.
Theres more than enough houses in Ireland."
I didn't say we needed to build more houses, I said there was a housing crisis. Needs strong leadership and thinking, not a load of new builds.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 07/06/2023 12:17:12    2484713

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Replying To zinny:  "All good roads converge on Dublin not the Midlands. Build a stadium in Athlone for Galway? What other big draw counties would it suit? If Leinster want a smaller stadium it has to be accessible to everyone and that was the Abbotstown idea."
Its the centre of the country, it would suit majority of counties. There's more to gaa than Leinster counties

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1206 - 07/06/2023 12:23:31    2484714

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I think the GAA need to look at having a 40-45k capacity stadium in one of the midlands towns, either in Portlaoise or Tullamore.
It could host a lot of neutral matches, and could host Leinster hurling finals when Galway are playing.
40k in a full house in Portaloise or Tullamore would be a much better atmosphere than 40k in Croke Park, and the crowd will likely be smaller given the distance from Galway on Sunday.
Either that or just get rid of the farcical situation where the Leinster hurling final has to be played in Leinster and play the game in Thurles."
Agreed should be able to play the lenister final in thurlas, it should really not even be called the lenister championship any more, it should be given a new name!

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 07/06/2023 12:33:26    2484719

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Replying To ecad123:  "Agreed should be able to play the lenister final in thurlas, it should really not even be called the lenister championship any more, it should be given a new name!"
Most of the counties in Leinster would be very happy to win it and wouldn't want it called anything else. Just as they did for 120 odd years. Those that don't should just go somewhere else.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15673 - 07/06/2023 13:09:16    2484729

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It's not needed... It would hardly be ever used, would it ever be full either seeing the way attendances are going in general especially in football, just improve portlaoise and tullamore, save the money in this dangerous economic climate we living in

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 801 - 07/06/2023 13:12:16    2484731

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It is more needed than that enormous white elephant in Cork ever will be.
Think about it, Portlaoise for example is close to the M7, well served by public transport. Probably 2 hours from a huge radius of the country.
I am not suggesting green-field, I am saying upgrade a stadium in the middle of the country to be a 40-50k stadium.
It wouldn't be used once a year because already Portaoise gets neutral venue games a lot. If it could hold bigger games, it would get more.
A stadium around the M50 would be a soulless, lifeless experience. Need to keep stadiums in towns and cities for the bit of spin-off they generate for local economies.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1336 - 07/06/2023 15:30:45    2484776

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "It is more needed than that enormous white elephant in Cork ever will be.
Think about it, Portlaoise for example is close to the M7, well served by public transport. Probably 2 hours from a huge radius of the country.
I am not suggesting green-field, I am saying upgrade a stadium in the middle of the country to be a 40-50k stadium.
It wouldn't be used once a year because already Portaoise gets neutral venue games a lot. If it could hold bigger games, it would get more.
A stadium around the M50 would be a soulless, lifeless experience. Need to keep stadiums in towns and cities for the bit of spin-off they generate for local economies."
It isnt needed though and Cork is built and Cork is far more likely to ever be used for concerts/other events than this.

You dont need to put in huge capacities but proper modern stadiums.
A stadium in middle of country with capacity of 40-50k would be an enormous white elephant.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3755 - 07/06/2023 15:41:05    2484780

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There are way 2 many stadiums in this country I'd say the ones that can hold over 30 thousand are rarely full a handful of times even 12k stadium are rarely full either ,what ever we nerd in this country it's not more stadium ,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1063 - 07/06/2023 17:09:20    2484807

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Aren't the gaa struggling to fill their existing stadia more than once or twice a year, often not even once, without building another one? A 40k one no less.
One advantage is It may stop the silly clamour from some people to fix every second game (regardless of importance or how many will attend) for Croke park, therefore reducing the borderline embarrassing spectacle of watching the players perform on front of 70 000 empty seats, but I doubt it."
Is that you Bertie?

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 07/06/2023 19:18:30    2484827

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "There are more important things to be built in the country than another stadium.

There is still laughably no motor-way/train service to the north-west.
For as long as I can remember there has been a housing crisis.
Thousands of MICA-ridden homes need rebuilding."
Seems to me successive governments have thought that Donegal was partitioned off along with the six counties, we might as well have been for all they seem to bother about us up here.
Try getting around up here on public transport, if you had to rely on public transport up here I'll tell you you'd be emigrating damned quick.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3182 - 07/06/2023 21:23:28    2484847

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Replying To Kickitout:  "There are way 2 many stadiums in this country I'd say the ones that can hold over 30 thousand are rarely full a handful of times even 12k stadium are rarely full either ,what ever we nerd in this country it's not more stadium ,"
We need to modernize our existing stadiums first not build more new ones.
I wouldnt say there is too many stadiums. there is too many poorly equipped stadiums.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3755 - 07/06/2023 22:06:46    2484853

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "It is more needed than that enormous white elephant in Cork ever will be.
Think about it, Portlaoise for example is close to the M7, well served by public transport. Probably 2 hours from a huge radius of the country.
I am not suggesting green-field, I am saying upgrade a stadium in the middle of the country to be a 40-50k stadium.
It wouldn't be used once a year because already Portaoise gets neutral venue games a lot. If it could hold bigger games, it would get more.
A stadium around the M50 would be a soulless, lifeless experience. Need to keep stadiums in towns and cities for the bit of spin-off they generate for local economies."
There is merit to it but it needs to be multi functional and like I said an alternative always available to weathered out games.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 08/06/2023 00:48:20    2484859

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Replying To Viking66:  "Most of the counties in Leinster would be very happy to win it and wouldn't want it called anything else. Just as they did for 120 odd years. Those that don't should just go somewhere else."
No need to be like that, so just because that was the way for 120 years we should just leave it? If everyone thought like that nothing would improve! The inclusion of Galway/ Antrim was and is a good thing and has improved the championship, we would be happy to win it too and were happy when we won it before, but it needs to be rebranded, we are all the one here and this notion that it has to be on in a lenister venue is wrong imo. We played the 2018 final replay in thurlas so it has been done before,

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 08/06/2023 09:49:38    2484865

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Athlone Town Stadium
(090) 648 0001
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Wz8dpYbvyBCYvJxU9

Combined sports arena, retractable roof, corporate seating - 25k capacity

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1382 - 08/06/2023 19:29:23    2485016

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Replying To ecad123:  "No need to be like that, so just because that was the way for 120 years we should just leave it? If everyone thought like that nothing would improve! The inclusion of Galway/ Antrim was and is a good thing and has improved the championship, we would be happy to win it too and were happy when we won it before, but it needs to be rebranded, we are all the one here and this notion that it has to be on in a lenister venue is wrong imo. We played the 2018 final replay in thurlas so it has been done before,"
I'd have no problem with finals played in Semple if Galway/Kilkenny/Offaly/Laois were in it especially. But it is the Leinster Championship. It has a tradition of its own. To rebrand it as something else would be doing away with it. Lads down here grow up hoping to win Leinsters and AIs.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15673 - 08/06/2023 20:00:52    2485022

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Roscommon

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1732 - 08/06/2023 21:15:59    2485033

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Athlone Town Stadium
(090) 648 0001
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Wz8dpYbvyBCYvJxU9

Combined sports arena, retractable roof, corporate seating - 25k capacity"
is that needed?
Who would use it to 25k even 20k on a regular bbasis?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3755 - 08/06/2023 21:31:47    2485036

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