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Replying To wexfordwin: "Amazing listening to Richie Kehoe complain about the hurling championship format when it was his own club who were the ones who pushed for it and then brought in the idea of replays on Wednesday nights." Just shows that even within clubs there isn't agreement on what set up and schedule is best. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 11/08/2023 14:24:14 2500080 Link
Replying To wexfordwin: "Amazing listening to Richie Kehoe complain about the hurling championship format when it was his own club who were the ones who pushed for it and then brought in the idea of replays on Wednesday nights." I sense there's maybe a bit of a disconnect in the Harriers club. Apparently when their match v St. Anne's was re-fixed for the Wednesday night, some players asked could it not be done some other way. Then when they were told it was their club who actually pushed for something that could mean a midweek fixture for any club and then another fixture just a few days later, the reaction was "well, that's the first we've heard of it". Obviously can't say for sure, but on the face of it, seems like the club executive may not have communicated with the players before bringing that motion in the first place. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 11/08/2023 14:42:24 2500089 Link
Wexford weekly have put up Rossi is new manager. Don't shoot the messenger Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 364 - 11/08/2023 15:08:31 2500092 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "I sense there's maybe a bit of a disconnect in the Harriers club. Apparently when their match v St. Anne's was re-fixed for the Wednesday night, some players asked could it not be done some other way. Then when they were told it was their club who actually pushed for something that could mean a midweek fixture for any club and then another fixture just a few days later, the reaction was "well, that's the first we've heard of it". Obviously can't say for sure, but on the face of it, seems like the club executive may not have communicated with the players before bringing that motion in the first place." I think that disconnect goes beyond just The harriers in a lot of Clubs from my experience! tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1498 - 11/08/2023 15:49:44 2500095 Link
You are right Pikeman but its time for some form of new thinking, I don't know what but ANYTHING which exposes players to a better standard of hurling has to be on the table. The alternative is Wexford sitting here in another 5 years still with not a prayer of winning an All-Ireland in either code, yet blathering about being a dual county squeezing championships in to 8 weeks, arguing over split seasons and having a hurling v football debate while soccer and rugby clean up because the GAA clubs can only offer players such a tiny window of proper competitive games. Insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Everybody can't have everything their own way all of the time and everything doesn't have to be 50/50 all of the time in my view, approaching it from a county where the game I cared more about being very much playing second fiddle. Its just the reality of life. You make do with the resources at your disposal. On the topic of the replays, does every club in the county have a player on their committee? I would think in many clubs, the player group is not consulted and they get decided at committee meetings. But even then, the delegate could be a law on to himself and do what he likes. It was flagged back at the time on here. To me, this should be a "players decision", so to speak. Every club could send 1 player to a meeting on this with a mandate from the players in his club. Everything doesn't need to go through the hierarchy. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1336 - 11/08/2023 18:05:28 2500113 Link
Replying To wexfordwin: "Amazing listening to Richie Kehoe complain about the hurling championship format when it was his own club who were the ones who pushed for it and then brought in the idea of replays on Wednesday nights." In fairness he is entitled to his opinion, his personal views might not reflect the clubs views WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 11/08/2023 18:12:05 2500114 Link
Congrats to barntown on staying up, not easy which such a turnover of players, I tipped rathnure but they couldn't stay going for the distance and barntown showed great resolve in the last few mins. Think rathnure will come back up, this could be the kick the younger players need. Fair play to Gary Laffan for giving so many younger players a chance, but they will need more next year or else could find themselves in the same situation. WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 11/08/2023 23:13:12 2500132 Link
Replying To WexMurph: "Congrats to barntown on staying up, not easy which such a turnover of players, I tipped rathnure but they couldn't stay going for the distance and barntown showed great resolve in the last few mins. Think rathnure will come back up, this could be the kick the younger players need. Fair play to Gary Laffan for giving so many younger players a chance, but they will need more next year or else could find themselves in the same situation." Yes well done to the neighbours they showed great fight and I think probably put more into their fitness over last winter and spring. Not sure what it is with the culture in Rathnure these days but they don't seem to have the same grit they used to have. I'd say if they change mindset they should be clear favourites to go back up but Intermediate isn't as easy as it was these days, with recent Senior clubs like Buffers Alley not bouncing straight back up. 1 of Fethard and Cloughbawn will also still be Intermediate after today barring a replay, and you will have coming teams like possibly Taghmon, St. James, Gusserane, Tara Rocks, as well as the Alley still there next year if Taghmon or St James don't go up this year, along with perennial tough teams to beat like Blackwater, Askamore and Bunclody. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 12/08/2023 09:00:22 2500144 Link
Rathnure might find its not as easy as to "just come back up" based on the jersey they are wearing. Buffers Alley would have thought just that as well. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1826 - 12/08/2023 09:39:18 2500149 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "Rathnure might find its not as easy as to "just come back up" based on the jersey they are wearing. Buffers Alley would have thought just that as well." Yeah it just shows that you can't rest on your laurels and tradition only counts for so much. Statistically, this is by far their longest dry spell not winning a county title since winning their first one in 1948, and even the twelve year gap since their last county final appearance shows their depreciation has been slow burning, but really accelerated over the last two years. But you know what? Attitude may be a problem, but they have failed to adapt to the times too. You can hate it all you want, but the modern game has evolved into a fitness-based, off-the-shoulder running set-up adopted from football, with sweepers (or 'plus ones') still common as well. Those two aspects are anathema to the hurling snobs. The maddest thing of all is, when they did decide to play a bit of football, it happened to coincide with them winning one hurling championship match across the last two campaigns. I'm sure there'll be ready-made excuses to hand after this disaster though rather than a root and brach review beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1491 - 12/08/2023 10:03:50 2500153 Link
Don't want to sound like I'm kicking them when there down but since the start of 2020 Rathnure's championship record is 2 wins and 15 losses so wouldn't call this a shock, there were very close last year too, felt at the start of the year Crossabeg, Oulart and Rathnure were the 3 weakest at Senior and whoever finished bottom of that group would go down. Knew Glynn were hit by a couple of retirements and lads travelling but the loss of Craig Doyle, Gary Moore and O'Regan was massive for them too. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 12/08/2023 10:23:49 2500158 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "Rathnure might find its not as easy as to "just come back up" based on the jersey they are wearing. Buffers Alley would have thought just that as well." If think if they get things right rathnure have a lot more than potential than the buffers alley team that were relegated. Some of lads that battled for buffers alley in the senior ranks for years are the ones still trying to get them back up. WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 12/08/2023 11:58:37 2500172 Link
Does it really matter? They will be straight back up anyways like nearly every team that comes down. At least they increased the senior grade it might stop this yoyo of teams going straight back up. alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 476 - 12/08/2023 12:07:00 2500173 Link
Replying To alwaysasub: "Does it really matter? They will be straight back up anyways like nearly every team that comes down. At least they increased the senior grade it might stop this yoyo of teams going straight back up." Took Oilgate and Cloughbawn 2 years after relegations in 2017&19, Alley still down after 18. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 12/08/2023 12:29:54 2500175 Link
Replying To alwaysasub: "Does it really matter? They will be straight back up anyways like nearly every team that comes down. At least they increased the senior grade it might stop this yoyo of teams going straight back up." Fethard didn't go straight back up. Neither did Buffers Alley. Only team that went straight back up recently is Oulart last year. The only other team in the last 10 seasons is St Annes back in 2017. So if Rathnure do go straight back up they will actually have achieved a rare feat. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 12/08/2023 12:58:59 2500183 Link
Gutted. Taghmon left that behind them. Well done to the Jimmys should be an excellent final. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 12/08/2023 22:09:16 2500245 Link
Great semis in intermediate today. Even though Fethard were ahead Cloughbawn still had that finishing power. Jimmies and Taghmon was very entertaining. Tough on Taghmon the way it ended but always good to see a new team in the final, there first ever Intermediate final. I think they will give Cloughbawn a good rattle but still can't see last Cloughbawn winning it. alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 476 - 12/08/2023 22:16:52 2500246 Link
Replying To alwaysasub: "Does it really matter? They will be straight back up anyways like nearly every team that comes down. At least they increased the senior grade it might stop this yoyo of teams going straight back up." u clearly have not seen them play this year Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2972 - 12/08/2023 22:24:52 2500248 Link
Replying To alwaysasub: "Great semis in intermediate today. Even though Fethard were ahead Cloughbawn still had that finishing power. Jimmies and Taghmon was very entertaining. Tough on Taghmon the way it ended but always good to see a new team in the final, there first ever Intermediate final. I think they will give Cloughbawn a good rattle but still can't see last Cloughbawn winning it." Cathal Doyle scored 10 points from play. In a semi final! Must be really hard to lose a game when you score like that. Hopefully whoever the new county management are they will give him a call. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 12/08/2023 22:46:18 2500251 Link
Pity to see any club go down, especially a club that's given more Wexford stars and legends than any other, one of the great hurling clubs in Ireland, no team goes down that's undeserving of it, it's been coming for a while now. For a lot of lads it's their 3rd relegation final in 8 years and all close ones, they've struggled at senior for a while now and just look like a team or club that hasn't really moved into the requirements for modern hurling. They've some fine hurlers but just seem to be off a lot of teams in terms of fitness, style, tactics, game plans etc. Don't want to be knocking them too much when their down but it's a pity, a club that's produced so many county and potentially still could if lads committed (their choice, nobody can force a lad to do it and that's fair enough) but maybe it's the reset they need. They still have so may raw materials to be a good team and have no shortage of good hurlers, just I think the club needs to revaluate what it's about and things. If they got their house in order they could definitely be a knockout stage team at senior in years to come. Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 318 - 12/08/2023 23:16:34 2500256 Link