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What club is Brendan holahan from Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 364 - 08/08/2023 09:54:27 2499466 Link 0 |
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Yes but that's involved around half the teams at the top of Intermediate the last 8 or 9 years. Shamrocks v Duffry was the last final that involved teams no longer in Intermediate or Senior. Since then all the clubs involved in the Intermediate final are still Intermediate or Senior. Of the current Intermediate clubs that list is Cloughbawn, Fethard, Buffers Alley, Bunclody, Taghmon and Adamstown. All the rest of the finalists are currently Senior. St James and Askamore have also reached semi finals in the last 2 years, while its likely Tara Rocks will reach one soon also. Bkackwater, who field 3 adult teams, usually are in the knockout stages also. From those 10 clubs still in Intermediate only Mikey Dwyer, Conall Flood, Ian Carty, Conor Devitt and Matthew O'Hanlon made Senior Championship hurling apperearances this year. In the last few years only Aidan Nolan and Harry Kehoe also made appearances, though neither were regulars really. A pretty poor number overall. Noone from Intermediate A or Junior made one appearance this year. And it's even harder to believe that noone from the around 25 odd clubs below that level again in the county are good enough for the Senior Hurling team, despite all of them hurling since they were around 6 years old and many of them hurling underage for Wexford. If Geroid Hegarty was a Wexford man he'd likely have never played Senior Intercounty, or would've had to put in for a controversial club transfer like Cathal Dunbar. Is it any wonder we are poorer than we should be when we are only picking from less than half of our playing pool, which is already small by top intercounty standards.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 08/08/2023 10:23:33 2499471 Link 0 |
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Oulart never reached an AI club final and only won one Leinster final. There are 4 Offaly clubs, 5 Antrim clubs and a Carlow club with better records than that. Rathnure reached 5 finals but lost them all, same record as Dunloy, While Buffers Alley reached 2 and won 1, which makes their record worse than Loughgiel Shamrocks who won both the AI club finals they reached. This is in over 50 years. Not a recent problem so, and nothing to do with the split season. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 08/08/2023 10:31:34 2499473 Link 0 |
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I am looking forward to the two intermediate semi finals Saturday evening. Fethard and Cloughbawn would of been alot of people's tips to win it a the start of the year. Fethard have been quite hit and miss and have had a couple of poor enough performances, they really peaked against Tara Rocks the weekend and I think will just about get over the line this weekend against Cloughbawn. I was at the St James and Taghmon game earlier in the championship, I thought the James were the better team on the day, there was very little between both teams, it was a very physical entertaining game and I'd expect the same this weekend. It'll be interesting to see how much game time MOH gets, he could be vital in getting the James over the line in the last 15/20 minutes. As a neutral a Fethard/St James final would be very interesting and that's what I'm tipping. I am finding the intermediate A a little harder to call, I fancied Cushintown prior to the game this weekend but from what I hear they were lucky enough to get a draw, it will be a big ask for the winner to play 3 games in a week. I still think if Cushintown can get over the line tonight and don't lose anyone to injury they'll get to a final and will be hard bet in it. In the Junior, Clongeen have been impressive winning all group games and comfortably getting by ferns the weekend. There up against The Shamrocks this weekend, they already beat them earlier in the group game, I'd expect a closer game this time around but Clongeen to come out on top again. Kilmore and St Pat's on the other side will be very tight, St Pat's have a couple of very good forwards, I think the Clongeen/Shamrocks/St Pat's group was the stronger side of this and I am tipping a Clongeen/St Pat's final JT22 (Wexford) - Posts: 51 - 08/08/2023 10:41:07 2499475 Link 0 |
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Must be remembered he's Kilkenny through and through so might not have the appetite to play for another Liam McCarthy county, let alone a Leinster team, only his 2nd year with Oilgate after transferring from Dicksboro, played minor and u21 for Kilkenny, don't know if he was ever in the Senior panel. Aside from the 2 recent u20 intercounty teams Sean Keane Carroll has impressed me in view of the senior panel and I know they were in the panel in the early part of this year but I think Mike Kelly and Kyle Firman would be worth another look. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/08/2023 10:48:01 2499478 Link 0 |
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Cushinstown I think.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/08/2023 11:31:48 2499486 Link 0 |
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I thought he looked good enough for stepping up next year. Physically very strong already, good hand on him and put over a couple of cracking points from distance. Mikey Dwyer despite one leg strapped up was very good too. Maybe a bit disappointed in Conor Devitt and Cian Byrne. Playing Devitt as a sweeper seemed a bit of a waste giving Fethard the puck out to run through the lines which they did very well. TR would have been expecting more from Devitt I think. Cian Byrne has all the skills but needs to fill out a good bit still I think. Very good game with proper championship intensity, serious hits around midfield.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 402 - 08/08/2023 11:41:30 2499490 Link 0 |
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This is something I have noticed improve over the years. Referees at underage are also getting better at explaining decisions, and some are happy to talk to team officials after the match provided people aren't shouting and cursing at them. They are human just like the players, they make mistakes and we all view every tackle differently and what is a free and what is not. Who is the best club ref in Wexford? I would say over recent years Niall McDonald, John Carton and Eamon Furlong for me, at underage anyway which is where I see them most. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1336 - 08/08/2023 11:42:51 2499491 Link 0 |
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Yup, he's from Rathgarogue-Cushinstown all right. For what it's worth, I'm another who thought he did very well on Sunday evening.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 08/08/2023 11:49:23 2499496 Link 0 |
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Stoney Burke made the move before!
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 402 - 08/08/2023 11:49:26 2499497 Link 0 |
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The remark wasnt about winning, it was in regards to the clubs doing well. We havent won a game in the Leinster senior Club hurling since the split season came in. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1498 - 08/08/2023 11:51:16 2499500 Link 0 |
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I think the standard of referees is improving, a lot of the younger ones coming through are very good. Furlong is the best club ref in Wexford for me at the moment. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1498 - 08/08/2023 11:59:04 2499503 Link 0 |
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Ok let's look at intermediate champions for the last few years 2012 Oylegate senior for 1 season (I think) relegated in 2013 2013 Buffers Alley senior til 2018 (I think) 2014 Shamrocks senior for 1 season 2015 Naomh Eanna still senior 2016 Oylegate relegated in 2019 having reached semi final in 2018 2017 St Anne's still senior have appeared in 2 senior county finals since 2018 Fethard senior for 3 seasons relegated in 2021 2019 Cloughbawn senior for 3 seasons relegated in 2022 2020 Crossabeg still senior 2021 Oylegate still senior 2022 Oulart still senior Not much yo-yoing there. Let's look at the relegated teams that I can remember, I could be wrong 2012 Buffers Alley 2013 Oylegate 2014 Adamstown 2015 Shamrocks 2016 St Annes 2017 Cloughbawn 2018 Buffers Alley 2019 Oylegate 2020 N/A 2021 Oulart and Fethard 2022 Cloughbawn Oylegate are really the only ones that could be described as a yo-yo team Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 533 - 08/08/2023 12:26:56 2499508 Link 0 |
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A good few Kilkenny born lads have played for Wexford since the 1950s.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 08/08/2023 12:31:23 2499509 Link 0 |
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Thats only at Senior the last 2 years. But yes that's why I'd be for alternating hurling and football 1st. Possibly another reason is that our champions have played 2 very good club sides 1st time out as well, and in the case of Ferns winning a 1st ever Senior club title had something to do with it.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 08/08/2023 12:34:14 2499510 Link 0 |
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Its improving? Do you go to many games?
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 788 - 08/08/2023 12:36:43 2499511 Link 0 |
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At Intermediate and Junior we've done OK, Horeswood won Leinster Junior and the year before Tara Rocks went to extra time with the eventual AI champions Mooncoin, in Intermediate Oilgate got to a Leinster Final, Oulart last year the 1 team who done poor but that game sounded like a very strange occasion. For what its worth I'd prefer to go back to alternate weeks or 2 week blocks of each code, what was telling was the video with Alex Lynch and Birdie O'Leary last week which shows that even among players views differ. Lynch likes the current format but some of teammates with Maudlintown would be the most vocal critics of this structure. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/08/2023 12:43:57 2499512 Link 0 |
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If it's the same lad I'm thinking of he actually more of a football man or was years ago. He moved to cushinstown because of no football in rathnure. He would be from the ballywilliam area. Glad for him he's doing well and good luck to him
Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 364 - 08/08/2023 12:46:48 2499515 Link 0 |
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In fairness, it's just played two, lost two. Might be a bit early to draw conclusions. Would be different if we'd already lost five or more in a row. In particular, am not sure the split season and the consequent long lay-off from competitive hurling could be held up as the main reason for Ferns losing to St. Mullins last year, when you consider the Carlow final was actually played a week before our own, and so they wouldn't have had any competitive hurling in the meantime either. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 08/08/2023 13:01:34 2499516 Link 0 |
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Surely Cloughbawn fall into the "yo-yo" camp too? But it's meant to be hard to stay up senior, Cloughbawn won two games last year and still went down! That's not the case this season where we have two very weak teams in the senior relegation final.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 402 - 08/08/2023 13:11:21 2499519 Link 0 |