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Báireoir (Dublin) - Posts: 80 - 04/06/2023 11:52:07 2483886 Link 0 |
The Ring, Rackard and Meagher cups finished yesterday. An Ulster District and a Connacht-Leinster District could enter as amalgamations. The winners yesterday deserve a week of celebrating. An Ulster District versus Connacht-Leinster District could be a straight Intermediate final. A day out in Croke Park in recognition of the top players at that level. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7591 - 04/06/2023 13:12:27 2483898 Link 0 |
Still no route to Liam McCarthy though for good individual players in weaker counties. Also, long distance between North Mayo and South Wicklow to meet for some training etc. Separate Leinster and Connacht teams would be more viable. Maybe add an Exiles XV to make it 4 teams. Either round robin or knock-outs with top-2 getting crack at winner of McDonagh finalist or 3rd placed tier 1 team would be a greater recognition…
Observer23 (UK) - Posts: 17 - 04/06/2023 17:09:40 2483969 Link 0 |
How is there no route? Of course there is they win the championships to move up? This obsession with wanting everyone to play at the top grade doesn't do anything to promote the game as much as people might think. Just putting teams in championships for the sake of it won't work. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1319 - 05/06/2023 11:02:10 2484137 Link 0 |
You HAVE to give players a chance to play at the top level. Just putting teams in championships doesn't always work but this way would. Mayo for example wouldnt be thrown in to the Liam McCarthy as you said but combine them with the other connacht teams except galway and they should be a match for the likes of Dublin and Antrim if run correctly
GaA247 (Cork) - Posts: 39 - 05/06/2023 17:23:34 2484198 Link 1 |
I don't want everyone playing at the top grade only the very good players in the weaker counties to have a chance of it. Do you really think that any team is going to emerge from Ring/Rackard etc and seriously challenge for the Liam McCarthy in the next 30 years…? I don't think so. All the while, good players (potentially very good players go by the wayside all because there's not enough of them in a given county to seriously make inroads). Hurling is the best sport in the world, yet hardly anyone outside of a few counties in Ireland plays it to an elite level. Why does it not catch on? Because there's not a realistic route to an elite level for players coming from counties outside of the chosen few… Bringing good players together could work if there's commitment and vision… The Fitzgibbon works well at third level and there, players from different counties are brought together…
Observer23 (UK) - Posts: 17 - 05/06/2023 19:07:30 2484213 Link 0 |
You would be better off with a Connacht club championship with the top clubs in each county tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1091 - 05/06/2023 22:28:52 2484237 Link 0 |
No you don't have to do give anyone anything at all. Take Ulster for example in this idea. Is it with or without Antrim? If it's with Antrim it becomes all about them and if it's without what sort of team is there going to be? As I've said where is an Ulster team going to train? How often are they realistically going to be able to train? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1319 - 06/06/2023 07:35:11 2484259 Link 0 |
I think there's quite a gulf between Dublin & Antrim and the four footballing counties of Connacht. Dublin and Antrim clubs have played at the highest level in hurling. The GAA historically is based on local loyalty, village, parish, club. County loyalty was a later development. Then we had an inter provincial competition which was discontinued. Now we have an Ulster and a Connacht team playing in what's misnamed the Leinster championship and Kerry invited there too. To add to the confusion you're suggesting 4 teams representing Connacht to play two counties, one from Leinster and the other from Ulster. Sounds positively confusing! There are simpler ways to tweak the system.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1622 - 06/06/2023 07:51:25 2484261 Link 0 |
Twisting my words. I never said they would play them I suggested if the provincial teams were properly run they could get to a similar level to Antrim etc
GaA247 (Cork) - Posts: 39 - 06/06/2023 13:12:51 2484398 Link 0 |
I'd be thinking if counties are in Joe McDonagh, they have a route to take part in Liam McCarthy in that year, so Antrim and Down would be left separate. Somewhere like Omagh would be an hour away from most places in the rest of Ulster… For Connacht, somewhere like Ballaghaderreen. For Leinster, somewhere like Newbridge or Enfield. The Exiles' team would have most difficulty but a reminder that it would be training for 4-7 weeks so there would be ways around it… Observer23 (UK) - Posts: 17 - 06/06/2023 13:23:31 2484401 Link 0 |
But they do if they make it to the McDonagh Cup final both the winners and runners up. Having the intermediate All-Ireland would imo make more sense. Because in reality that's the level the likes of Roscommon, Mayo etc are at. Even with all of Connacht together they'd still be nowhere close to the level needed. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1319 - 06/06/2023 17:56:08 2484525 Link 0 |
You're right, I misread it. Lo siento.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1622 - 06/06/2023 18:39:27 2484535 Link 0 |