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Replying To carlovia: "Funny how Donal Og can give it out but gets very defensive when
asked a question himself.
He could have done a quick "I should have expressed it better" but
he ran away from the question." He's the epitome of the hurling snob.
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Replying To Greengrass: "Eh she presents The Sunday Game. Dónal Óg disparaged the Tailteann Cup twice. When asked the question he didn't even have the bottle to stand over his remarks." So as presenter of Cork and Clare hurling game, how was this related?
Who is she to decide what general topic panel members need to be called out on. What O'Cusack said about T Cup was out of order but for people to think that this was the right time and place to call him out is baffling!
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He has an annoying Cork accent like Roy Keane
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Replying To HurlingObserver: "If we are going to talk Donegal culture/ history then so the traditional game of north Donegal & Inishowen Is Camananachd/Commons or Shiny which Michael Collins etc basically ignored when codifying the modern version of Hurling." Yes shinty in Scotland is more like the game our ancient ancestors would have played. I doubt it was played in a serious way anyway, just something to keep children occupied. The game of hurling has very little history around the shores of Lough Neagh where I am from apart from Creggan in Antrim I suppose.
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Before I comment I want to be clear that I haven't heard the radio programme in question and I have no intention of doing so. Such arrogance to suggest that you cant comment without listening to his radio problem.
I watched the Sunday Game and that's enough for me to form an opinion.
The comments were bigoted ( as quoted) and the refusal to retract or attempt to give some context, when given the opportunity, was complete and total arrogance.
Bigotry is a most disgusting behavior, be it bigotry based on race ( racism) , religion or anything else.
These comments were bigoted against Gaelic Football in general and Gaelic Footballers from weaker counties in particular. One of the defining characteristic of bigotry is when the offender is not in that group. Donal Og, despite his protestations of doing work in the football arena , is a pure hurling man, and it looks like he carries the baggage of the quintessential hurling snob ( by the way snobbery and bigotry or very often bedfellows , as the bias against a particular group is very often accompanied by the belief that the offender is superior to the offended). Donal was also an elite player and never had the experience of playing for a weaker county.
Bigotry still exists in this country but we should be very proud of the fact that we are one of the most open minded countries in the world. Its only 30 years since we decriminalised homosexuality and we have come along way in these 30 years. But its worth noting that 3 years before that in 1990 , Babs Keating was the subject of ridicule for the "Donkeys don't win derbies" comment, which even at that time was not politically correct. I find it interesting that both the analogy and the content was quite similar to this controversy, although at least Babs target group were within his own code ( I do note that Babs was an accomplished footballer but he was primarily a hurling man).
Its not too late Donal Og. A full apology would restore some credibility.
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Is there any chance this is linked to Brollys recent Sindo column about how boring and predictable the RTE GAA coverage has gotten? Maybe Donal Og was encouraged to spice things up a bit and he just went for the extra spice. A pundit hasn't created this amount of debate since Brolly himself or Spillane.
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I have played & Followed the main 4 sports in Ireland all my life ie Rugby,Soccer,Hurling,Gaelic and got great enjoyment out of them all .
But in recent years i wouldnt be alone in saying Rugby & Hurling provide fair better entertainment than the other two and unless your from Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone where gaelic football is the only sport in town people in multi sports countys like Limerick choose Rugby & Hurling as gaelic footballs tactics are too boring and unexciting and theres too much mediocre soccer as well .
Gaelic football fans must acknowledge that these chess like defensive games in 80% of games turn people off & unless something changes people will just watch the all ireland final & leave it at that. I used go to Limerick football matchs reguarly enough but in the John Brudair era gave up watching it only to go to last years munster final v Kerry and cringe at the defensive carry on Limerick tried in that final doubting id every again go to see them play. 15 super fit men on the field but was there 5 gaelic footballers amongst them i'm not sure. I used go watch Treaty as well in LOI but that also became a hard watch so Rugby & Hurling will do me fine unless things change .
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Replying To anotheralias: "Before I comment I want to be clear that I haven't heard the radio programme in question and I have no intention of doing so. Such arrogance to suggest that you cant comment without listening to his radio problem.
I watched the Sunday Game and that's enough for me to form an opinion.
The comments were bigoted ( as quoted) and the refusal to retract or attempt to give some context, when given the opportunity, was complete and total arrogance.
Bigotry is a most disgusting behavior, be it bigotry based on race ( racism) , religion or anything else.
These comments were bigoted against Gaelic Football in general and Gaelic Footballers from weaker counties in particular. One of the defining characteristic of bigotry is when the offender is not in that group. Donal Og, despite his protestations of doing work in the football arena , is a pure hurling man, and it looks like he carries the baggage of the quintessential hurling snob ( by the way snobbery and bigotry or very often bedfellows , as the bias against a particular group is very often accompanied by the belief that the offender is superior to the offended). Donal was also an elite player and never had the experience of playing for a weaker county.
Bigotry still exists in this country but we should be very proud of the fact that we are one of the most open minded countries in the world. Its only 30 years since we decriminalised homosexuality and we have come along way in these 30 years. But its worth noting that 3 years before that in 1990 , Babs Keating was the subject of ridicule for the "Donkeys don't win derbies" comment, which even at that time was not politically correct. I find it interesting that both the analogy and the content was quite similar to this controversy, although at least Babs target group were within his own code ( I do note that Babs was an accomplished footballer but he was primarily a hurling man).
Its not too late Donal Og. A full apology would restore some credibility." Oh ffs wind your neck in. What he said wasn't bigotry.
The head of a teachers union in the United States of America (Minnesota if I'm not mistaken) recently likened white kids to wild animals. That's bigotry.
Stop with the sensationalism.
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Replying To MachaireConnacht: "Is there any chance this is linked to Brollys recent Sindo column about how boring and predictable the RTE GAA coverage has gotten? Maybe Donal Og was encouraged to spice things up a bit and he just went for the extra spice. A pundit hasn't created this amount of debate since Brolly himself or Spillane." I was thinking the same. It's mighty clickbait. Even Gift Grub mentioned it this morning in a pi$$take of Joe Duffy Show!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 23/05/2023 13:24:51
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Replying To Galway9801: "Oh ffs wind your neck in. What he said wasn't bigotry.
The head of a teachers union in the United States of America (Minnesota if I'm not mistaken) recently likened white kids to wild animals. That's bigotry.
Stop with the sensationalism." The use of the bigotry term is a bit severe I will admit.. Although technically ( by the definition of bigotry) it is closer to it than the example you used, I will admit that it is a term that we use more in the context of more severe levels of discrimination and it was a bit excessive for in this case. I probably exaggerated it for the sake of effect in the context of how annoyed I was about the level of arrogance displayed.
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Replying To OpenStand: "I have played & Followed the main 4 sports in Ireland all my life ie Rugby,Soccer,Hurling,Gaelic and got great enjoyment out of them all .
But in recent years i wouldnt be alone in saying Rugby & Hurling provide fair better entertainment than the other two and unless your from Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone where gaelic football is the only sport in town people in multi sports countys like Limerick choose Rugby & Hurling as gaelic footballs tactics are too boring and unexciting and theres too much mediocre soccer as well .
Gaelic football fans must acknowledge that these chess like defensive games in 80% of games turn people off & unless something changes people will just watch the all ireland final & leave it at that. I used go to Limerick football matchs reguarly enough but in the John Brudair era gave up watching it only to go to last years munster final v Kerry and cringe at the defensive carry on Limerick tried in that final doubting id every again go to see them play. 15 super fit men on the field but was there 5 gaelic footballers amongst them i'm not sure. I used go watch Treaty as well in LOI but that also became a hard watch so Rugby & Hurling will do me fine unless things change ." You're clearly buying into the opinion of pundits. How do I know this? You reference the fact that you find Rugby and Hurling to be exciting and Gaelic football to be boring. Ireland, under Joe Schmidt in particular, enjoyed great success, whilst playing a version of Rugby that involved hoofing the ball into the air and hoping to win it further up the field. However, because they were watching a team they supported, the pundits praised this style. If you enjoyed Ireland - and, for that matter, Munster mauling their way through more expansive teams - playing a pragmatic game, why don't you enjoy football, when teams employ similar tactics? Or perhaps you're a recently converted Rugby fan.
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Replying To anotheralias: "Before I comment I want to be clear that I haven't heard the radio programme in question and I have no intention of doing so. Such arrogance to suggest that you cant comment without listening to his radio problem.
I watched the Sunday Game and that's enough for me to form an opinion.
The comments were bigoted ( as quoted) and the refusal to retract or attempt to give some context, when given the opportunity, was complete and total arrogance.
Bigotry is a most disgusting behavior, be it bigotry based on race ( racism) , religion or anything else.
These comments were bigoted against Gaelic Football in general and Gaelic Footballers from weaker counties in particular. One of the defining characteristic of bigotry is when the offender is not in that group. Donal Og, despite his protestations of doing work in the football arena , is a pure hurling man, and it looks like he carries the baggage of the quintessential hurling snob ( by the way snobbery and bigotry or very often bedfellows , as the bias against a particular group is very often accompanied by the belief that the offender is superior to the offended). Donal was also an elite player and never had the experience of playing for a weaker county.
Bigotry still exists in this country but we should be very proud of the fact that we are one of the most open minded countries in the world. Its only 30 years since we decriminalised homosexuality and we have come along way in these 30 years. But its worth noting that 3 years before that in 1990 , Babs Keating was the subject of ridicule for the "Donkeys don't win derbies" comment, which even at that time was not politically correct. I find it interesting that both the analogy and the content was quite similar to this controversy, although at least Babs target group were within his own code ( I do note that Babs was an accomplished footballer but he was primarily a hurling man).
Its not too late Donal Og. A full apology would restore some credibility." Donal Og's behaviour was obnoxious and demonstrated a lack of manners.
JC tried to catch him on the hop, but he should have saw that coming and been able to deal with it with a bit of class, particularly when he is a GPA rep, supposedly representative of all intercounty players (football and hurling, men and women, div 4 - div 1).
His attitude demonstrates elitism both for hurling over football and for the traditional hurling counties over the weaker ones.
We don't know if he is a bigot (defined as "a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group") because he won't even engage in a discussion on the topic of his opinion and the basis of his opinion.
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Michael Duignan has written an article stating Dónal Óg Cusack's position as GPA president is 'untenable' following the Cork pundit's Tailteann Cup comments.
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Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 28/05/2023 22:07:35
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "Donal Og's behaviour was obnoxious and demonstrated a lack of manners.
JC tried to catch him on the hop, but he should have saw that coming and been able to deal with it with a bit of class, particularly when he is a GPA rep, supposedly representative of all intercounty players (football and hurling, men and women, div 4 - div 1).
His attitude demonstrates elitism both for hurling over football and for the traditional hurling counties over the weaker ones.
We don't know if he is a bigot (defined as "a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group") because he won't even engage in a discussion on the topic of his opinion and the basis of his opinion." This thread has been absolutely jam packed full of elitist comments from football people against hurling, a sport that over the weekend just gone provided us with some extraordinary contests and brilliant drama.
Anyone who watched those hurling games over the weekend and failed/refused to appreciate what a wonderful sport it is would do well to check their own "bigotry" before lecturing others.
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Replying To Galway9801: "This thread has been absolutely jam packed full of elitist comments from football people against hurling, a sport that over the weekend just gone provided us with some extraordinary contests and brilliant drama.
Anyone who watched those hurling games over the weekend and failed/refused to appreciate what a wonderful sport it is would do well to check their own "bigotry" before lecturing others." Exactly. Watching football after the Dublin/Galway game was like getting hitting jet lag. No comparison.
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Replying To Galway9801: "This thread has been absolutely jam packed full of elitist comments from football people against hurling, a sport that over the weekend just gone provided us with some extraordinary contests and brilliant drama.
Anyone who watched those hurling games over the weekend and failed/refused to appreciate what a wonderful sport it is would do well to check their own "bigotry" before lecturing others." Absolutely no question that this weekend was a super weekend for the GAA. There is no question that the hurling was excellent entertainment. But the football was enjoyable this weekend too , although the absence of knock out element did detract a little from the excitement. But 4 x Sam Maguire games with a combined points difference of 3 ( 2 draws , 1 x 1 point, 1 x 2 points) . Also 2 x cracking minor games on TG4, particularly the Ulster final.
The bottom line is that there is room in the GAA community for both codes , and they are great products.
Different people have different personal preferences , and that's fine too. But we should try not to push our personal preferences on others. I much prefer football to watch, but I also enjoy hurling and I can see why many people prefer hurling. But you can praise the hurling without knocking football , and vice verse.
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