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Carlow beating Wicklow and Wexford drawing with Fermanagh are the surprise results. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 14/05/2023 17:41:30 2478394 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Carlow beating Wicklow and Wexford drawing with Fermanagh are the surprise results." There's only the kick of a ball between Carlow and Wicklow overall so that was no surprise if we're honest, It's only half time with the Fermanagh and Wexford game, no winners or losers there. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 14/05/2023 18:23:05 2478417 Link
Replying To katser: "It's just been so long ago since Wexford won anything decent in Football they accidentally slipped my mind and I didn't include them in the same regard as Cavan, Down, Meath and Offaly regarding Football Honors." We have reached 2 Leinster Football finals since Offaly appeared in one Katser. We reached 26 finals compared to 19 for Offaly. And won more AIs than Offaly. We have the same number of AIs as Cavan and Down. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12053 - 14/05/2023 19:07:31 2478441 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Carlow beating Wicklow and Wexford drawing with Fermanagh are the surprise results." We aren't overly surprised at getting a draw in Fermanagh. It was the first game this year we had a nearly injury free squad to pick from. It was still a great result for Wexford football though. A Tailtean Cup run might convince some of the excellent footballers who wouldn't commit to the county footballers this year to give it a go next year. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12053 - 14/05/2023 19:10:43 2478444 Link
Tailteann Cup Power Rankings after Week 1. 1. Cavan 2. Down 3. Meath 4. Offaly 5. Fermanagh 6. Antrim 7. Limerick 8. Wexford 9. Carlow 10. Wicklow 11. Laois 12. Longford 13. Tipperary 14. London 15. New York 16. Leitrim 17. Waterford drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 291 - 15/05/2023 10:14:42 2478585 Link
I'm not sure what what way the seeding will work in the 1/4 final and onwards, so I'm sure some of the big guns (if there's a such a thing in the TC) will meet each other before the semis - but if we get a final four of Cavan, Down, Meath and Offaly - that will make for a very competitive semi final and final which is what we want to see. All teams will be confident of beating each other. I think some of the results over the weekend have shown you will never have competitive level playing field, unless you break it down to about 4 different tiers. There's always going to be hammerings handed out here and there and ultimately it's up to the counties to try and step up a level. hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 208 - 15/05/2023 11:01:24 2478617 Link
Replying To hyperache: "I'm not sure what what way the seeding will work in the 1/4 final and onwards, so I'm sure some of the big guns (if there's a such a thing in the TC) will meet each other before the semis - but if we get a final four of Cavan, Down, Meath and Offaly - that will make for a very competitive semi final and final which is what we want to see. All teams will be confident of beating each other. I think some of the results over the weekend have shown you will never have competitive level playing field, unless you break it down to about 4 different tiers. There's always going to be hammerings handed out here and there and ultimately it's up to the counties to try and step up a level." Yes its up to the individual counties to get up to the level. And Wexford have shown this week that it is possible. A mid table division 4 team v a Division 2 team for next year so you couldn't have much bigger of a gulf league position wise. They did it the hard way too being 7 points down at one stage. drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 291 - 15/05/2023 11:09:29 2478622 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Carlow beating Wicklow and Wexford drawing with Fermanagh are the surprise results." yea i was very surprised we did not beat them, expected to, we were down 7 to 8 players in league with injury, all bar one back, Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2845 - 15/05/2023 11:16:18 2478630 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Even if they get to an All Ireland Final and win it ( not a hope ) they will be in the Taltainn Cup next year unless they get to the Leinster Final… Promotion as we see this year might not be enough" It usually will be enough though. This year an oddity, and unfortunate for our own county to miss out. If the likes of Meath/Cavan/Fermanagh win it this year, it will be a Division 2 county next year who have a place guaranteed. Last year was the first year of it, so we always knew that the winner would be guaranteed to be playing Div 3/4 the following season, and possibly not get promoted but still have a place in Sam. Like Westmeath ended up doing. Add in the Connacht provincial draw, it meant that spots were lost to these. I'd say from here on out, it'll be fairly rare that the Division 3 winner does not go into Sam, unless a load of lower counties get to provincial finals. Just rotten it happened the way it did this year. Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2407 - 15/05/2023 11:25:22 2478636 Link
Replying To Stmunnsriver: "typical irish [cavan ? } stuff , the T C has not started yet and its all wrong, and of course money has to come in to it!!!! maybe niall toibin was right after all" That's 2 Cavan jokes you've made, and the first one was to a Fermanagh poster. Are you ok? Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2407 - 15/05/2023 11:27:37 2478639 Link
Replying To hyperache: "I'm not sure what what way the seeding will work in the 1/4 final and onwards, so I'm sure some of the big guns (if there's a such a thing in the TC) will meet each other before the semis - but if we get a final four of Cavan, Down, Meath and Offaly - that will make for a very competitive semi final and final which is what we want to see. All teams will be confident of beating each other. I think some of the results over the weekend have shown you will never have competitive level playing field, unless you break it down to about 4 different tiers. There's always going to be hammerings handed out here and there and ultimately it's up to the counties to try and step up a level." Some of the 4 teams you mention for semis could meet before semi final. nd other teams like Limerick fancy their chances of a big run and Antrim could surprise a few. A Cavan v Meath semi final or final would draw a fair crowd . OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 677 - 15/05/2023 13:18:17 2478671 Link
Replying To OpenStand: "Some of the 4 teams you mention for semis could meet before semi final. nd other teams like Limerick fancy their chances of a big run and Antrim could surprise a few. A Cavan v Meath semi final or final would draw a fair crowd ." Last time Cavan and Meath faced off in championship there was near 20 thousand in Clones for a round 3 qualifer in 2005. Not sure if they have met in championship since that, maybe i'm wrong on that. A lot of rivalry there though. drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 291 - 15/05/2023 13:55:29 2478689 Link
Cavan are guaranteed top 2. Offaly will finish third at least. Antrim are guaranteed top 2. Fermanagh will finish third at least. Limerick and Meath have 100% records as well. One third place team will miss out on qualification. If Down beat Tipperary today, Tipperary might be the most likely third placed team to miss out. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 21/05/2023 10:01:37 2479897 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Cavan are guaranteed top 2. Offaly will finish third at least. Antrim are guaranteed top 2. Fermanagh will finish third at least. Limerick and Meath have 100% records as well. One third place team will miss out on qualification. If Down beat Tipperary today, Tipperary might be the most likely third placed team to miss out." If Leitrim beat Wexford I'd imagine they would be worst scoring difference (currently-18) . Very doubtful they will though JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 182 - 21/05/2023 12:18:38 2479936 Link
Replying To Loughduff Lad: "It usually will be enough though. This year an oddity, and unfortunate for our own county to miss out. If the likes of Meath/Cavan/Fermanagh win it this year, it will be a Division 2 county next year who have a place guaranteed. Last year was the first year of it, so we always knew that the winner would be guaranteed to be playing Div 3/4 the following season, and possibly not get promoted but still have a place in Sam. Like Westmeath ended up doing. Add in the Connacht provincial draw, it meant that spots were lost to these. I'd say from here on out, it'll be fairly rare that the Division 3 winner does not go into Sam, unless a load of lower counties get to provincial finals. Just rotten it happened the way it did this year." You are probably right in what you say but this Cavan team has no business playing in the Sam Maguire groups…. Taltainn Cup is their level and even it will prove difficult enough for them…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1950 - 21/05/2023 16:43:02 2480007 Link
Replying To JimmyNail: "If Leitrim beat Wexford I'd imagine they would be worst scoring difference (currently-18) . Very doubtful they will though" Tipperary scoring difference be worse after today, would fancy them to beat Waterford to take 3rd spot I that group macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1098 - 21/05/2023 16:56:17 2480023 Link
One third place missing out is making the Tailteann more interesting in that respect. Tipperary v Waterford a shootout for third in Group 2 but no guarantee of being among the best 3 third places. Meath v Down is for the group win. My reading of Group 3 is that Limerick have qualified as group winners having beaten Longford and Carlow. Wicklow are eliminated as they have lost to Longford and Carlow. Cavan and Offaly will battle to win group 1. Laois and London for a top 3 third spot. Group 4 is similar to group 1. Antrim v Fermanagh to win the group. Wexford v Leitrim to try and gain a top 3 third spot. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 21/05/2023 19:13:46 2480133 Link
Replying To macca999: "Tipperary scoring difference be worse after today, would fancy them to beat Waterford to take 3rd spot I that group" Don't know now - Waterford have looked a better team in the Tailteann than Tipp thus far. Tipp have been unbelievably poor this year. Bailah (Fermanagh) - Posts: 43 - 21/05/2023 19:15:15 2480135 Link
Replying To Bailah: "Don't know now - Waterford have looked a better team in the Tailteann than Tipp thus far. Tipp have been unbelievably poor this year." That's true, Tipp been very poor although did beat Waterford already in Munster just about. Should be a close one macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1098 - 21/05/2023 20:05:04 2480159 Link
After two rounds would it be fair to say theres no real change in the main Contenders - Cavan, Meath, Down , Limerick, Fermanagh. Be the quarter finals before theres any real excitment OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 677 - 21/05/2023 21:05:11 2480185 Link