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Replying To GraiguecullenLS: "We're from Laois in Graigue. Find lebensraum elsewhere." Suggest you write to your local county council and tell them that. That would be Carlow County Council, of course. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 856 - 05/07/2023 10:22:18 2492334 Link
Replying To artisan: "Ticketmaster sold out by 11am this morning. I suspect the clubs will all sell their allocation. Sheer stupidity having the Dublin game on afterwards, there'll be 20K empty seats on the Sunday." The Carlow GAA chairman spoke very well on the benefit of having the McDonagh final as standalone as opposed to a curtain raiser. The Tailteann final could be a standalone final on the Saturday before the All-Ireland final. Meath and Down supporters being in the Hogan stand not far from the cup presentation for whoever wins. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8780 - 05/07/2023 10:25:28 2492336 Link
Replying To artisan: "Ticketmaster sold out by 11am this morning. I suspect the clubs will all sell their allocation. Sheer stupidity having the Dublin game on afterwards, there'll be 20K empty seats on the Sunday." Absolute stupidity, I would estimate the meath down game would of bought between 30 to 35 thousand, obviously it won't now because that many won't get tickets, dublin monaghan would prob of bought between 55 to 65 thousand, they estimated for the tealtean Cup semi finals that 10 thousand would go and it ended up nearly double that causing chaos, when will they learn. Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 711 - 05/07/2023 10:31:25 2492337 Link
Replying To Royal.Legend: "Absolute stupidity, I would estimate the meath down game would of bought between 30 to 35 thousand, obviously it won't now because that many won't get tickets, dublin monaghan would prob of bought between 55 to 65 thousand, they estimated for the tealtean Cup semi finals that 10 thousand would go and it ended up nearly double that causing chaos, when will they learn." Kerry and Derry for travel reasons are on Sunday. Less people would travel for a late Saturday evening game due to the long return journey after. The only solution from lesson learned might be a standalone fixture on the day before the All-Ireland final. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8780 - 05/07/2023 11:26:37 2492366 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Kerry and Derry for travel reasons are on Sunday. Less people would travel for a late Saturday evening game due to the long return journey after. The only solution from lesson learned might be a standalone fixture on the day before the All-Ireland final." Was ther an official attendance figure for the TC Semi Finals? Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 05/07/2023 11:41:16 2492373 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Was ther an official attendance figure for the TC Semi Finals?" 17,500. TC semi-finals could be curtain raisers for All-Ireland semi-finals. Tailteann final then on the day before the All-Ireland final. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8780 - 05/07/2023 12:01:26 2492383 Link
Replying To Royal.Legend: "Absolute stupidity, I would estimate the meath down game would of bought between 30 to 35 thousand, obviously it won't now because that many won't get tickets, dublin monaghan would prob of bought between 55 to 65 thousand, they estimated for the tealtean Cup semi finals that 10 thousand would go and it ended up nearly double that causing chaos, when will they learn." Ok so first of all I fully agree that the TC Final should either have been a standalone fixture or preceded the other Semi final, which will have a much smaller attendance than the Dublin v Monaghan, BUT I seriously doubt if the TC Final would draw 35k supporters. Most Meath fans were not in favour of the TC, and I know a final is a final, but 35k attending it - nah I dont see it. And this is not a slight on meath fans in any shape or form, so dont take it personally. HOWEVER - the Gaa have messed up here with putting it on the same day as Dublin v Monaghan imo. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4229 - 05/07/2023 12:46:16 2492397 Link
I think the Tailteann Cup should have a stand alone final. The GAA had a golden opportunity this year with 2 traditional big counties involved, both relatively close to Croker as well. They had a decent run in time to the final as well to try and organise a big promotional campaign and get as many bums on seats as possible. It could have been a huge shot in the arm for football in both counties. Discount tickets, get clubs/county boards running buses, special train from Newry etc. Could've given the Tailteann Cup a big boost rather than relegating it to a curtain raiser for the 'main' event! Even the TV coverage will be dominated by the Semi-Final. In future I think they need to find a free Saturday/Sunday for the TC final. Give it the respect it deserves. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 05/07/2023 14:23:22 2492433 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Ok so first of all I fully agree that the TC Final should either have been a standalone fixture or preceded the other Semi final, which will have a much smaller attendance than the Dublin v Monaghan, BUT I seriously doubt if the TC Final would draw 35k supporters. Most Meath fans were not in favour of the TC, and I know a final is a final, but 35k attending it - nah I dont see it. And this is not a slight on meath fans in any shape or form, so dont take it personally. HOWEVER - the Gaa have messed up here with putting it on the same day as Dublin v Monaghan imo." If the TC final was paired with a minor final, Junior final on a Saturday evening, and they priced tickets appropriately you are 100% getting 30/35k, absolutely. But it shouldn't be about the attendance, it's about giving the TC respect if you want to use it as a genuine second tier tournament and keep those involved motivated. You get a lot of bandwagoners jumping on these sort of games, haven't attended a game all year but suddenly want to go to a final, Saturday is an attractive day for a game and you'd people bringing the whole family. Meath and Down are two traditional GAA counties and I genuinely believe both sets of fans would travel for a final. I just think it's very poor taste to put a 3 week gap between the TC Semis and the final and then lump it in with a Dublin All Ireland semi at Croke Park. It's disingenuous to the actual fans who have spent money following the team all year and are left without a ticket. I for one have been to all of the TC games bar the Waterford trip, but couldn't get a ticket for the final. And I know a lot of others in the same boat. hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 05/07/2023 14:26:49 2492436 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Ok so first of all I fully agree that the TC Final should either have been a standalone fixture or preceded the other Semi final, which will have a much smaller attendance than the Dublin v Monaghan, BUT I seriously doubt if the TC Final would draw 35k supporters. Most Meath fans were not in favour of the TC, and I know a final is a final, but 35k attending it - nah I dont see it. And this is not a slight on meath fans in any shape or form, so dont take it personally. HOWEVER - the Gaa have messed up here with putting it on the same day as Dublin v Monaghan imo." There was at least 10 thousand meath fans there for the semi final, I know lots trying to get tickets who havnt been to a match all year and want to bring there kids also, hard to put a exact figure on it of course, and your right buy in from meath fans for this competition was initially slow but judging by the scramble for tickets lots are interested now. Down of course are too a large tradional countie who like us are in a national final with a realistic chance of winning would surely of bought a good few thousand down too. Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 711 - 05/07/2023 14:41:20 2492442 Link
Replying To hyperache: "If the TC final was paired with a minor final, Junior final on a Saturday evening, and they priced tickets appropriately you are 100% getting 30/35k, absolutely. But it shouldn't be about the attendance, it's about giving the TC respect if you want to use it as a genuine second tier tournament and keep those involved motivated. You get a lot of bandwagoners jumping on these sort of games, haven't attended a game all year but suddenly want to go to a final, Saturday is an attractive day for a game and you'd people bringing the whole family. Meath and Down are two traditional GAA counties and I genuinely believe both sets of fans would travel for a final. I just think it's very poor taste to put a 3 week gap between the TC Semis and the final and then lump it in with a Dublin All Ireland semi at Croke Park. It's disingenuous to the actual fans who have spent money following the team all year and are left without a ticket. I for one have been to all of the TC games bar the Waterford trip, but couldn't get a ticket for the final. And I know a lot of others in the same boat." You hit on another very good point here actually - the cost of the ticket.... If it was a Standalone fixture, or with say the AI Junior Final for example, then the ticket price would have been cheaper also..... And as you say - to give the TC Final the respect it deserves, it should have been kept apart from the AI SFC Semi Finals. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4229 - 05/07/2023 14:45:39 2492444 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "I think the Tailteann Cup should have a stand alone final. The GAA had a golden opportunity this year with 2 traditional big counties involved, both relatively close to Croker as well. They had a decent run in time to the final as well to try and organise a big promotional campaign and get as many bums on seats as possible. It could have been a huge shot in the arm for football in both counties. Discount tickets, get clubs/county boards running buses, special train from Newry etc. Could've given the Tailteann Cup a big boost rather than relegating it to a curtain raiser for the 'main' event! Even the TV coverage will be dominated by the Semi-Final. In future I think they need to find a free Saturday/Sunday for the TC final. Give it the respect it deserves." Yes would agree with all of this. Hopefully will be in place for Antrim's appearance next season. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4520 - 05/07/2023 14:50:48 2492447 Link
TC wasn't promoted by GAA HQ at all. Charging children €5 to group games was crazy stuff. No attempt at marketing it at all. No wonder so few went. Now the final kick in the teeth....putting it on with the Dublin game instead if the lower attended Kerry v Derry game. As someone else said it should have uts own slot Saturday of AI weekend Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 05/07/2023 15:13:35 2492457 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "I think the Tailteann Cup should have a stand alone final. The GAA had a golden opportunity this year with 2 traditional big counties involved, both relatively close to Croker as well. They had a decent run in time to the final as well to try and organise a big promotional campaign and get as many bums on seats as possible. It could have been a huge shot in the arm for football in both counties. Discount tickets, get clubs/county boards running buses, special train from Newry etc. Could've given the Tailteann Cup a big boost rather than relegating it to a curtain raiser for the 'main' event! Even the TV coverage will be dominated by the Semi-Final. In future I think they need to find a free Saturday/Sunday for the TC final. Give it the respect it deserves." The very least they could've done was put the TC final on 2nd and have Dublin match as curtain raiser. GAA were looking the counties to buy into this TC so stage the final as main event . Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2290 - 05/07/2023 15:25:04 2492463 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "The very least they could've done was put the TC final on 2nd and have Dublin match as curtain raiser. GAA were looking the counties to buy into this TC so stage the final as main event ." That doesnt solve the issue at all.... No Tickets - and Price of Tickets..... Promote it by getting a large crowd at it from the 2 participating TC counties.... Not by putting it on AFTER an AI Semi Final. And it is not a Dublin match - it is Dublin v Monaghan AI semi final match,.... dont be turning it into a Dublin thing... GAA messed up here, end of... Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4229 - 05/07/2023 15:54:43 2492472 Link
Replying To Fionn: "That doesnt solve the issue at all.... No Tickets - and Price of Tickets..... Promote it by getting a large crowd at it from the 2 participating TC counties.... Not by putting it on AFTER an AI Semi Final. And it is not a Dublin match - it is Dublin v Monaghan AI semi final match,.... dont be turning it into a Dublin thing... GAA messed up here, end of..." Blame ticket master and the GAA but I got 3 tickets yesterday morning, Dublin are playing at home that's why I only mentioned Dublin and yes TC final should be the main event and Dublin v Monaghan as curtain raiser. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2290 - 05/07/2023 16:46:47 2492490 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "I think the Tailteann Cup should have a stand alone final. The GAA had a golden opportunity this year with 2 traditional big counties involved, both relatively close to Croker as well. They had a decent run in time to the final as well to try and organise a big promotional campaign and get as many bums on seats as possible. It could have been a huge shot in the arm for football in both counties. Discount tickets, get clubs/county boards running buses, special train from Newry etc. Could've given the Tailteann Cup a big boost rather than relegating it to a curtain raiser for the 'main' event! Even the TV coverage will be dominated by the Semi-Final. In future I think they need to find a free Saturday/Sunday for the TC final. Give it the respect it deserves." how about having the day before the All-Ireland final as the TC final day? KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 05/07/2023 23:16:27 2492550 Link
tickets supposed to be coming on ticketmaster today. no sign yet, ill hopefully get one from my club dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 826 - 06/07/2023 10:44:31 2492597 Link
Replying To Fionn: "You hit on another very good point here actually - the cost of the ticket.... If it was a Standalone fixture, or with say the AI Junior Final for example, then the ticket price would have been cheaper also..... And as you say - to give the TC Final the respect it deserves, it should have been kept apart from the AI SFC Semi Finals." To be fair the GAA, for the Tailteann starting off they have paired the final with an All-Ireland semi-final. After the reasonable success of the McDonagh as an unplanned standalone final this year, they could try the same with the Tailteann final. The GAA have fully admitted there will be tweaks to be made. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8780 - 06/07/2023 15:47:18 2492702 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "To be fair the GAA, for the Tailteann starting off they have paired the final with an All-Ireland semi-final. After the reasonable success of the McDonagh as an unplanned standalone final this year, they could try the same with the Tailteann final. The GAA have fully admitted there will be tweaks to be made." Yep I think so - €50 for a TC Final is a bit steep tbh. Most of the TC fans will only watch a bit of the Monaghan v Dublin game but that is it. Majority will want to travel home to either celebrate or just get out of there. I know friends of mine involved in the TC are saying it is far too steep to be bringing a family to it.. But as you say, tweaks next year will hopefully solve this. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4229 - 06/07/2023 22:32:11 2492768 Link