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Replying To CARPS: "Brendan Hennessy has lived in county Carlow all his life. He's never lived in Leix. What are you talking about? And our last major title, before this year, was the 2018 Joe McDonagh Cup. Under Colm Bonnar. From Tipperary. Leix has a population of 91,000. Carlow has 61,000. That's a substantial difference. However, for GAA purposes, the gap is even larger. Because that CSO figure for Carlow, includes Graiguecullen. Which is in Carlow, and has 5,000 people. So in GAA terms, Leix is pulling from 96,000 people and Carlow only 56,000. Hence my claim that Leix has almost twice the pick. Please get your facts right, before commenting." What has any of this rubbish got to do with the tailtean cup Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 666 - 01/07/2023 12:15:33 2490978 Link
Replying To CARPS: "Brendan Hennessy has lived in county Carlow all his life. He's never lived in Leix. What are you talking about? And our last major title, before this year, was the 2018 Joe McDonagh Cup. Under Colm Bonnar. From Tipperary. Leix has a population of 91,000. Carlow has 61,000. That's a substantial difference. However, for GAA purposes, the gap is even larger. Because that CSO figure for Carlow, includes Graiguecullen. Which is in Carlow, and has 5,000 people. So in GAA terms, Leix is pulling from 96,000 people and Carlow only 56,000. Hence my claim that Leix has almost twice the pick. Please get your facts right, before commenting." Graiguecullen is in Laois. Played in the Laois championship before Carlow. And playing in Laois since 1927, 96 years. Roscommon, Monaghan don't complain about population. Best to focus on your own lot than complaining about people who identify as Laois people. Carlow, nestled between Wexford and Kilkenny, should have more than 6 Senior hurling clubs. Failure to promote the game. Also I can't remember when your senior footballers were last in a senior provincial final. Fermanagh, with half the population not 'Gaa inclined' were in one recently and drew with Armagh in the 2008 Ulster final. Brendan Hennessy is a Laois man, his family all born there, including himself. CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 173 - 01/07/2023 12:21:48 2490982 Link
Replying To CC2020: "Graiguecullen is in Laois. Played in the Laois championship before Carlow. And playing in Laois since 1927, 96 years. Roscommon, Monaghan don't complain about population. Best to focus on your own lot than complaining about people who identify as Laois people. Carlow, nestled between Wexford and Kilkenny, should have more than 6 Senior hurling clubs. Failure to promote the game. Also I can't remember when your senior footballers were last in a senior provincial final. Fermanagh, with half the population not 'Gaa inclined' were in one recently and drew with Armagh in the 2008 Ulster final. Brendan Hennessy is a Laois man, his family all born there, including himself." Not going to debate Brendan Hennessy anymore, on an anonymous forum. But suffice to say, he's never lived in County Laois. And he was born in Carlow. Anyway, as for your other point. Can you tell me about Roscommon, Monaghan and Fermanagh hurling? Perhaps this is why they don't complain about population? Because they only take one code seriously? Speaking of countries that only take one code seriously, what about your own Kilkenny?. It's easy to run down Carlow, a proper GAA county, by comparing it to counties who aren't proper full-service GAA counties. What Carlow does - with a GAA population of only 56,000 - is incredible. Senior in hurling, and also highly competitive in intermediate football. Leix is also a superior GAA county to your own. Strongly suggest you worry about football in Kilkenny, before worrying about it in Carlow. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 603 - 01/07/2023 13:09:07 2490998 Link
Replying To Royal.Legend: "What has any of this rubbish got to do with the tailtean cup" I think you will find that this is, in no way related to the Tailteann cup. In relation to the Tailteann cup; it will be an interesting final. Meath have been in Division 1 and 2 in recent years which is a much higher standard than Down have competed at in recent years. Down have been predominantly in Division 3, although I do think they were in Division 2 for some years recently. There is a contrast in terms of the respective managers; Colm is more old school but seems to be adapting to the modern game after an initial shaky start while Conor has taken over Down and the transformation has been immediate and remarkable in a short period of time. On current form, Down are probably favourites although Meath being a Division 2 team balances up the scales. If Meath are to win, they need to stop Down's running game. it is hard to draw any conclusions from the semi finals as Laois didn't turn up on the day. I would hesitantly give the nod to Down by a very slim manager. Meath will want to win, now that they are in the final but I think Colm will be happy with the progress and the fact that he has been able to introduce 13 new players to intercounty football. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1916 - 01/07/2023 13:20:19 2491001 Link
Replying To CARPS: "Not going to debate Brendan Hennessy anymore, on an anonymous forum. But suffice to say, he's never lived in County Laois. And he was born in Carlow. Anyway, as for your other point. Can you tell me about Roscommon, Monaghan and Fermanagh hurling? Perhaps this is why they don't complain about population? Because they only take one code seriously? Speaking of countries that only take one code seriously, what about your own Kilkenny?. It's easy to run down Carlow, a proper GAA county, by comparing it to counties who aren't proper full-service GAA counties. What Carlow does - with a GAA population of only 56,000 - is incredible. Senior in hurling, and also highly competitive in intermediate football. Leix is also a superior GAA county to your own. Strongly suggest you worry about football in Kilkenny, before worrying about it in Carlow." Roscommon had a great hurling team in the 80. They've been better than Carlow at hurling over the years bar the last 20. I'm not running Carlow down, this begrudgery of Laois and claiming Graiguecullen is not small stuff. Work with what you've got and stop belittling them when they lose. 9 Leinster to 1 is what I see. Laois in both Leinster finals in 1985. Carlow would never do that. And painting yourselves as this great dual county doesn't stack up. You're not Offaly or Laois. CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 173 - 01/07/2023 14:01:21 2491021 Link
Replying To CC2020: "Roscommon had a great hurling team in the 80. They've been better than Carlow at hurling over the years bar the last 20. I'm not running Carlow down, this begrudgery of Laois and claiming Graiguecullen is not small stuff. Work with what you've got and stop belittling them when they lose. 9 Leinster to 1 is what I see. Laois in both Leinster finals in 1985. Carlow would never do that. And painting yourselves as this great dual county doesn't stack up. You're not Offaly or Laois." You're 100% right. We are not Offaly or Leix. We are better than both of them, right now. With a much smaller population than either. But that could change, next year, of course. That said, Offaly is an incredible county. Probably the greatest over the GAA's history. To win All-Ireland's, in both codes, with - what was then - only around 60,000 people was astonishing. However, sadly, you don't know much about hurling: for a Kilkenny man. You say Roscommon were better than Carlow at hurling, except for the past 20 years. Let's fact check that: 1963: NHL, Carlow played in Division 1A; Roscommon played in the 4th tier. 1973: NHL, both played in Division 2. 1983: NHL, Carlow played in Division 2, Roscommon in Division 3. 1993: NHL, Carlow played in Division 2, Roscommon in Division 3. The facts don't seem to support your assertion. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 603 - 01/07/2023 15:01:30 2491047 Link
Replying To CC2020: "Graiguecullen is in Laois. Played in the Laois championship before Carlow. And playing in Laois since 1927, 96 years. Roscommon, Monaghan don't complain about population. Best to focus on your own lot than complaining about people who identify as Laois people. Carlow, nestled between Wexford and Kilkenny, should have more than 6 Senior hurling clubs. Failure to promote the game. Also I can't remember when your senior footballers were last in a senior provincial final. Fermanagh, with half the population not 'Gaa inclined' were in one recently and drew with Armagh in the 2008 Ulster final. Brendan Hennessy is a Laois man, his family all born there, including himself." Ah here … you just made a significant Freudian slip there when you referred to "people who identify as Laois people" So you're saying they're not Leix people then? btw seeing as you have a new found interest in football, how are preparations going down there on noreside ahead of your big upcoming All Ireland semi final … no not that one I mean the junior football all Ireland versus is it Buckinghamshire ye're playing? Should be close, I hear the Bucks are flying it and gave Norfolk a good trimming recently. Will anyone who plays even junior b club hurling in KK be allowed play for the county in an All Ireland football semi final or does the traditional February to November ban on all things football still apply? Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 01/07/2023 16:30:47 2491063 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "It was alongside Galway v Derry semi final last year. Tickets were OK to get, didn't hear of anyone missing out and as far as I can remember it was a couple of thousand shy of a sellout. Would've been a different story had it been the same day as Dublin v Kerry. It's not confirmed which qtr final winners will play in the semi final the same day as the TC. I'd imagine it won't be the winners of Dub v Mayo. But if Dub/Mayo were to meet, say, Derry. And Kerry were to meet Armagh. You could definitely be looking at a scramble for tickets!" Look as i have said if your a member of your club you should have no worries no matter who else is playing germac (Down) - Posts: 535 - 01/07/2023 21:35:46 2491147 Link
Just had to sign up when read some messages. What are the two Carla fellas doing on the National thread, are they lost? GraiguecullenLS (Laois) - Posts: 3 - 03/07/2023 01:37:44 2491627 Link
Replying To germac: "Look as i have said if your a member of your club you should have no worries no matter who else is playing" That's not the point, fixing it the same day as the dublin semi is scandalous really. That game would sell out on its own yet they decide to just cram in the tailteann cup final putting needless pressure on familes for tickets. Then look at the 30 thousand spare seats at the kerry derry game Sunday. No thought but into these fixtures at all. southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 891 - 03/07/2023 09:05:51 2491646 Link
Bad form putting the Taltainn on with Dub/Monaghan game…. Should have been on with Kerry/Derry as it would put less pressure on ticket availability… These are the things that cause discontent ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1950 - 03/07/2023 10:14:32 2491684 Link
Replying To southmeathgael: "That's not the point, fixing it the same day as the dublin semi is scandalous really. That game would sell out on its own yet they decide to just cram in the tailteann cup final putting needless pressure on familes for tickets. Then look at the 30 thousand spare seats at the kerry derry game Sunday. No thought but into these fixtures at all." 100%. Amazed the GAA decided to schedule the Dubs for the Saturday. Sheer stupidity. artisan (Down) - Posts: 1794 - 03/07/2023 10:20:15 2491690 Link
Replying To GraiguecullenLS: "Just had to sign up when read some messages. What are the two Carla fellas doing on the National thread, are they lost?" Not as lost as Graiguecullen. At least we know where we are from. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 603 - 03/07/2023 10:29:19 2491698 Link
Replying To artisan: "100%. Amazed the GAA decided to schedule the Dubs for the Saturday. Sheer stupidity." Kerry and Derry supporters would not be enthusiastic about a long trip home on a Saturday night. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 03/07/2023 13:55:18 2491828 Link
There won't be 65,000 at the Tailtainn/Dublin double header. countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 643 - 03/07/2023 14:17:25 2491844 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "There won't be 65,000 at the Tailtainn/Dublin double header." I think it will be a seller - remember it's a very long time since meath were in a national final cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 03/07/2023 18:34:49 2491956 Link
Replying To southmeathgael: "That's not the point, fixing it the same day as the dublin semi is scandalous really. That game would sell out on its own yet they decide to just cram in the tailteann cup final putting needless pressure on familes for tickets. Then look at the 30 thousand spare seats at the kerry derry game Sunday. No thought but into these fixtures at all." Read my post please, I never mentioned what day the game is on but i do agree harder to get tickets when the Dubs are playing germac (Down) - Posts: 535 - 03/07/2023 19:09:23 2491966 Link
Replying To CARPS: "Not as lost as Graiguecullen. At least we know where we are from." We're from Laois in Graigue. Find lebensraum elsewhere. GraiguecullenLS (Laois) - Posts: 3 - 04/07/2023 15:48:57 2492205 Link
surely everyone that needs a ticket will get one, 82,000 is a huge crowd. monaghon surely arent cappable of bringing anymore than 18,000 thats over 25% of thier population , dublin at most 40,000 thats still leaving 23,000 for meath and down, unfortunatly someoone in GAA head office doesnt know their geography too well, they presumed meath and down would bring similar crowd to west meath and Cavan last year. Cavan and westmeath combined population is just under 178,000. meath and down combined population is 742,000. if you dont count half of Downs population (Loyalists) your still coming in at 492,000 almost half a million combined between Down (nationalists) and Meath. their in lies the issue. dont forget their were 48,000 at the ladies final last year of which meath fans were about 36-40,000 alone dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 693 - 04/07/2023 19:08:28 2492260 Link
Ticketmaster sold out by 11am this morning. I suspect the clubs will all sell their allocation. Sheer stupidity having the Dublin game on afterwards, there'll be 20K empty seats on the Sunday. artisan (Down) - Posts: 1794 - 04/07/2023 20:40:50 2492286 Link