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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Prediction from here on

Group 1
1 Mayo
2 Kerry
3 Louth
4 Cork

Group 2
1 Galway
2 Armagh
3 Tyrone
4 Westmeath

Group 3
1 Dublin
2 Roscommon
3 Kildare
2 Sligo

Group 4
1 Derry
2 Monaghan
3 Donegal
4 Clare


Prelim round

Monaghan v Kildare
Kerry v Donegal
Roscommon v Tyrone
Armagh v Louth

Q finals
Mayo v Monaghan
Galway v Armagh
Dublin v Tyrone
Derry v Kerry

Semi
Mayo v Galway
Dublin v Kerry"
Armagh can't be drawn against Galway until Semi final stage

systematic (Galway) - Posts: 65 - 26/05/2023 11:01:59    2481685

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Galway or Dublin might be quarter-final opponents for Kerry, if Kerry get that far.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7409 - 26/05/2023 11:09:14    2481693

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Replying To yew_tree:  "You say Kerry seemed very flat against Mayo and that's the excuse and it's partially the reason Kerry lost. Mayo were also very flat against Roscommon a week after winning the league title."
Is flat just another word for bad now?

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 872 - 26/05/2023 11:52:53    2481705

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Prediction from here on

Group 1
1 Mayo
2 Kerry
3 Louth
4 Cork

Group 2
1 Galway
2 Armagh
3 Tyrone
4 Westmeath

Group 3
1 Dublin
2 Roscommon
3 Kildare
2 Sligo

Group 4
1 Derry
2 Monaghan
3 Donegal
4 Clare


Prelim round

Monaghan v Kildare
Kerry v Donegal
Roscommon v Tyrone
Armagh v Louth

Q finals
Mayo v Monaghan
Galway v Armagh
Dublin v Tyrone
Derry v Kerry

Semi
Mayo v Galway
Dublin v Kerry"
Since provincial final repeats or group stage repeats will be avoided it is more likely to be for instance:

Derry vs Tyrone
Galway vs Kerry
Dublin vs Armagh
Mayo vs Monaghan

Someone can correct me if I am wrong.

Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 75 - 26/05/2023 12:19:24    2481711

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Replying To Jazzyjeff:  "Since provincial final repeats or group stage repeats will be avoided it is more likely to be for instance:

Derry vs Tyrone
Galway vs Kerry
Dublin vs Armagh
Mayo vs Monaghan

Someone can correct me if I am wrong."
As there's a draw for all the KO stages predictions now are are rather silly.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 26/05/2023 13:03:42    2481723

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What happens after the preliminary quarter final round, does the winner of that game play the top team in their group.
Lets say Galway top their group and Tyrone and Armagh play in the preliminary round, would Galway then play either Tyrone or Armagh in the quarter final.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 417 - 26/05/2023 15:00:47    2481758

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Replying To cluichethar:  "What happens after the preliminary quarter final round, does the winner of that game play the top team in their group.
Lets say Galway top their group and Tyrone and Armagh play in the preliminary round, would Galway then play either Tyrone or Armagh in the quarter final."
Armagh can't play any teams in their group in the prelim game or quarter final

armaghfan02 (Armagh) - Posts: 31 - 26/05/2023 15:36:07    2481770

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Replying To cluichethar:  "What happens after the preliminary quarter final round, does the winner of that game play the top team in their group.
Lets say Galway top their group and Tyrone and Armagh play in the preliminary round, would Galway then play either Tyrone or Armagh in the quarter final."
After the quarter finals playoff round they'll try to avoid a repeat of two teams that played each other in provincial final or in the round robin group.

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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7064 - 26/05/2023 15:49:05    2481774

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Replying To cluichethar:  "What happens after the preliminary quarter final round, does the winner of that game play the top team in their group.
Lets say Galway top their group and Tyrone and Armagh play in the preliminary round, would Galway then play either Tyrone or Armagh in the quarter final."
No that would be ludicrous.

drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 125 - 26/05/2023 16:09:21    2481783

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Replying To drumalee11:  "No that would be ludicrous."
I agree but it is the GAA after all.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 417 - 26/05/2023 19:50:17    2481817

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "After the quarter finals playoff round they'll try to avoid a repeat of two teams that played each other in provincial final or in the round robin group.

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I haven't seen anything outside of them saying that the group winners would play the prelim winners. They haven't said which group winners.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 417 - 26/05/2023 19:56:01    2481818

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "After the quarter finals playoff round they'll try to avoid a repeat of two teams that played each other in provincial final or in the round robin group.

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Thanks for the link. It's a bit clearer now.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 417 - 26/05/2023 19:59:38    2481820

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All-Ireland Power Rankings Week 1

1. Mayo
2. Galway
3. Kerry
4. Dublin
5. Roscommon
6. Derry
7. Armagh
8. Monaghan
9. Tyrone
10. Cork
11. Donegal
12. Louth
13. Kildare
14. Westmeath
15. Sligo
16. Clare

drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 125 - 29/05/2023 14:54:01    2482606

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Great to see three Connacht teams (60%) in the top five.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 248 - 29/05/2023 16:10:56    2482653

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Great to see three Connacht teams (60%) in the top five."
Good to see, and Sligo might make it there in the future, too. However, if you ever want to reach 100%, you'll have to ship Leitrim up to Ulster.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1619 - 29/05/2023 17:42:18    2482687

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Replying To drumalee11:  "All-Ireland Power Rankings Week 1

1. Mayo
2. Galway
3. Kerry
4. Dublin
5. Roscommon
6. Derry
7. Armagh
8. Monaghan
9. Tyrone
10. Cork
11. Donegal
12. Louth
13. Kildare
14. Westmeath
15. Sligo
16. Clare"
League Rankings
Mayo extra point for winning League, Div 2 points halved, no points for Div 3&4 or winning div 2 league

TEAM P W D L POINTS
1 Mayo 8 5 2 1 11
2 Galway 8 4 2 2 10
3 Rossie 7 4 0 3 8
4 Tyrone 7 4 0 3 8
5 Kerry 7 3 0 4 6
6 Mon 7 3 0 4 6
7 Derry 7 6 1 0 6
8 Dublin 7 6 0 1 6
9 Armagh 7 2 1 4 5
10 Louth 7 4 0 3 4
11 Donegal 7 1 1 5 3
12 Cork 7 3 1 3 3
13 Kildare 7 3 0 4 3
14 Clare 7 2 0 5 2
15 Wmeath 7 4 0 3 0
16 Sligo 7 6 0 1 0

Provincial Championship Ranking
Matches v Div 3&4 teams don't count, 2 points for winning province

TEAM P W D L POINTS
Dublin 2 2 0 0 6
Derry 2 1 1 0 5
Kerry 1 1 0 0 4
Galway 1 1 0 0 4
Rossie 2 1 0 1 2
Mon 2 1 0 1 2
Clare 2 1 0 1 2
Armagh 1 0 1 0 1
Mayo 1 0 0 1 0
Tyrone 1 0 0 1 0
Louth 1 0 0 1 0
Cork 1 0 0 1 0
Kildare 1 0 0 1 0
Wmeath 1 0 0 1 0
Sligo 1 0 0 1 0
Donegal 0 0 0 0 0

Round Robin to Date (Bonus point for away win)

TEAM P W D L F A POINTS
Mayo 1 1 0 0 22 17 3
Cork 1 1 0 0 22 20 3
Louth 1 0 0 1 20 22 0
Kerry 1 0 0 1 17 22 0

Galway 1 1 0 0 16 13 2
Armagh 1 1 0 0 16 15 2
Wmeath 1 0 0 1 15 16 0
Tyrone 1 0 0 1 13 16 0

Dublin 1 0 1 0 14 14 1
Rossie 1 0 1 0 14 14 1
Kildare 1 0 1 0 14 14 1
Sligo 1 0 1 0 14 14 1


Donegal 1 1 0 0 14 9 3
Derry 1 0 1 0 14 14 1
Mon 1 0 1 0 14 14 1
Clare 1 0 0 1 9 14 0

Combined Ranking
Kerry + 2 points for winning all ireland last year.

TEAM P W D L POINTS
Galway 10 6 2 2 16
Mayo 10 6 2 2 14
Dublin 11 9 1 1 13
Derry 10 8 2 0 12
Kerry 9 4 0 5 12
Rossie 10 5 1 4 11
Mon 10 4 1 5 9
Tyrone 9 4 0 5 8
Armagh 9 3 2 4 8
Donegal 9 1 1 6 6
Cork 9 4 1 4 6
Kildare 9 3 1 5 4
Clare 10 3 0 6 4
Louth 9 4 0 3 4
Sligo 9 6 1 2 1
Wmeath 9 4 0 5 0

Thats a pretty accurate ranking - but if you took out Bonus points you would get the table below, which is a reflection of results only.

TEAM P W D L POINTS
Galway 10 6 2 2 14
Mayo 10 6 2 2 12
Rossie 10 5 1 4 11
Dublin 11 9 1 1 11
Derry 10 8 2 0 10
Mon 10 4 1 5 9
Kerry 9 4 0 5 8
Tyrone 9 4 0 5 8
Armagh 9 3 2 4 8
Donegal 9 1 1 6 5
Cork 9 4 1 4 5
Kildare 9 3 1 5 4
Clare 10 3 0 6 4
Louth 9 4 0 3 4
Sligo 9 6 1 2 1
Wmeath 9 4 0 5 0

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1016 - 31/05/2023 09:13:53    2483065

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