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The evidence is available to you....I have pointed it out multiple times but I can't read and understand it for you. No part of the country needs a GAA team...or a rugby team or a hockey team etc...etc. Once again...the GAA nor any sporting body fund per capita as its ludicrous to suggest every person needs to be involved in that sport. As for your examples on national infrastructure....thats just funny. Population centres needs public transport. You are mixing up funding essential services/capital projects (capital doesnt mean Dublin in case that confuses you further) like public transport, roads, healthcare, education and others where the entire population need to avail at some point or another of those services with funding sport. lol. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 06/07/2023 17:46:02 2492732 Link 0 |
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By that logic though your right on a county board level but on a players level its harder as the cost of living is much higher than in all other counties so Dublin players would have to work harder and longer hours to pay for housing and other costs . Mortgage payments and rent are much higher so that puts effort from rhe Dublin squad into a new perpestive . How they find the time to get the few hours training has to be admired
ctowers (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 06/07/2023 19:35:40 2492745 Link 2 |
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Keep speak for others but certainly was in our case. The largest part of the Roscommon expenditure went towards travelling expenses of 437k which highlights the amount of our footballers living outside Roscommon including 21 based in Dublin.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4033 - 06/07/2023 20:39:19 2492755 Link 0 |
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No it's not obvious. There are much larger expenses incurred by the counties themselves for travel, accommodation, food etc etc. I'm sure there are Dubs living outside of Dublin. They'd be lucky to be able to afford accommodation or a house in Dublin these days.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 06/07/2023 20:57:05 2492758 Link 1 |
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Ah would ye stop Mick. Teams from West flying to NY. Your grasping at straws there. So the Kerry team are expensing their players for hotels for training? How many Kerry players are living in Dublin and commuting to Kerry for training 2 or 3 times a week. Possibly none. This was the position a couple of years ago.. The issue is non-existent for Kerry. The county's PRO confirmed to SportsJOE that none of the current senior team live, work or study in Dublin. There are a couple of fringe players from The Kingdom in the capital for college but not first team regulars. So I don't know what expenses the Kerry men are claiming. Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 06/07/2023 21:11:30 2492760 Link 2 |
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No comment - a new baton holder..... Janus I feel a Cyndi Lauper song coming on, if you know what I mean..... ;o) Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4227 - 06/07/2023 22:27:38 2492765 Link 0 |
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Never mind the money the big question is what Dub is going to mark D. Clifford in the final MONMAD (Monaghan) - Posts: 15 - 06/07/2023 23:22:36 2492776 Link 0 |
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Where would you put the 5 new clubs in Dublin? I suspect you think that one of the billionaires associated with Dublin GAA would just buy land for them to have their grounds?
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1959 - 07/07/2023 04:16:04 2492779 Link 3 |
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Dublin have to beat Monaghan yet.... This years division 2 team v Div 1 team... No foregone conclusion here..! The other semi final will be the one sided game of the 2 semi finals I reckon. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4227 - 07/07/2023 10:04:11 2492800 Link 0 |
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A lot of clubs in the city are probably going to find their grounds under threat over the next while as the place turns into a high rise mess with too many people in it. Nobody will be buying land for sure.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3503 - 07/07/2023 10:29:52 2492818 Link 1 |
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I wouldn't think they are living in Kerry and travelling every day for a Job in Dublin. If they are living outside Dublin and working in Dublin....they are living in the commuter belts in Kildare, Meath, Wicklow. Its all very obvious if you really want to see it.
Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 07/07/2023 13:07:28 2492892 Link 1 |
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Don't you mean who will mark Stephen O'Hanlon? McCluskey probably best suited...
Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1201 - 07/07/2023 13:15:34 2492897 Link 0 |
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So you cant provide the evidence compartively between Dublin and Monaghan, so your a spoofer who cant back up your claim. Id disagree on that assertion i think loads of parts of the country do need a football, hockey, rugby teams etc - i think funding is based on population centres - it is all over the world, if you look at every single developed City, town, village in the world i think you will find every sport funds accordingly to the population needs and people who live there. I think that a very simple and obvious thing. You also keep changing your argument, to nobody allocated money about anything based on population, t ono one in sport - when clearly the world over the do. I wonder what the funding Greenland get for any sport. ;D Im not confusing anything, you are dilinating between sports and other amenties based on populaiton - im not - you are big dscerning to suit your argument but your argument is beyond any evidential backbone. A poster from Monghan yesterday said every club and club player has access to amazing facilities and coaching due to funding, why cant everyone in a county like Dublin have access to this and at County level a team of supposed "professionals" at the highest level of intercounty sport and one of the most successful teams of all time not even have access to an intercounty COE. Thats some Gravy train North of Cavan. Look someone has to make strawman arguments without any basis and im grateful you have taken up the gauntlet. Professional indeed. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4515 - 07/07/2023 13:22:18 2492902 Link 1 |
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Is it the biggest back room in Ireland - can i see that breakdown please. What the stoy in Monghan is there only one newspaper. You are way off again - we split a GPO or a GDA in a region between schools and clubs. Half funded by games development and the other self funded by the clubs - not the county board or GAA. We have our own stadium its called Croke Park, its right slap bang in the middle of Dublin. You might ask for directions if your up this way. if visiting you will see a big wall of Blue behind the railway end. Good on them, im reassured in the sneeze that you speak for the entitiry of the human population. People can think what they like in fact id encourage them im comfortable people paying us rent in their heads one way or the other. Many think given 60k, population and almost six times thre funding that Mongahan success over the last decade is as such. I nver worry about that though, though i don wonder about Armagh and the like and where would they be without the artificial Monaghan's of this world. I wouldnt say anyone in Monaghan os overly bothers, what with the gilded facilities and coaching in every club you illustrated yesterday. Even with, you still look on us with resentment but overall envy - i think i can live with what others think given that. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4515 - 07/07/2023 13:31:24 2492914 Link 2 |
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Joxer i think that Joe. Ie article is from 2017.In truth I don't K ow how many players are working or living outside of Kerry but I'd say there are a few in Cork. Even in Kerry some players have to travel long distances but I'm sure they car share. On that though Mayo for example had a lot of players living in Dublin so travel a big thing. Look I'm sick of arguing but the biggest thing is travelling long distances to games for the whole squad. Now the league everyone travels but let's take the quarter finals and semi finals. Are you serious in thinking that it won't cost Kerry more money to come to Dublin for the two games than Dublin who have little or no travel. Joxer you keep referring to counties big spend and the biggest reason is travel. It's no coincidence when Mayo were in all Irelands and replays and Kerry and Galway having both teams do well their spending goes through the roof. When Dublin played Kerry in the league in Tralee last year I'm sure it they spent more money to fulfill the fixture than Kerry . Travel costs money!
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 07/07/2023 13:33:19 2492917 Link 0 |
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Who from Kerry is living in Dublin and commuting up and down to Kerry 3 times a week? I've already posted on this. As of two years ago not one of the Kerry first team were living and/or commuting to/from Dublin. I wonder what Kerry were spending their €1.4m on if you think it was on player expenses? You see, it's not obvious at all.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 07/07/2023 13:40:45 2492920 Link 2 |
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https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/on-the-road-again-gaa-players-going-the-distance-for-their-counties-1.3361869 Thats from 2018. You can see the numbers that rural counties have travelling. In reality, that number is nil in Dublin. Donegal and Mayo in particular have long suffered with this....Kerry have lads mostly in Cork and Limerick. Its not going to have changed dramatically since then other perhaps some lads have got hybrid work arrangements which would lessen the need to travel as often. I don't know why Dubs get upset about this.....its just reality and an unfortunate disadvantage many county panels have to deal with. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 07/07/2023 14:11:30 2492924 Link 0 |
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I know it costs to travel Mick. It's the same for all of us. Like I say we've been all over the country this year and the Dubs mostly travel up and back in one day on the team coach. No huge expense I would imagine. I get that the QFs, SFs and F are in Croke Park but it's like complaining about the FA Cup final rounds being in Wembley for Arsenal. Besides think of Kerry's cut of the gate receipts, the exposure for the team and more sponsorship opportunities. The expense of getting a coach up and a night in a hotel pales in comparison to the rewards. Anyway, enough is enough, it's a moot point.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 07/07/2023 14:18:52 2492928 Link 0 |
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Who's upset? I'm only pointing out facts. How many of the current Dublin panel live outside of Dublin? You've been making a lot of sweeping assumptions, Kerry men living and commuting up and down from Dublin a couple of times a week claiming a fortune? It turns out that none of them were a few years back. You're assuming that Dubs all live around the corner from Abbottstown. I've news for you, they don't. Some of them are living in commuter counties, 40,50,60 km away from training and making 2-3hr round trips. Under Gilroy training was being done twice a day as part of a gruelling regime. I'm just not getting your, oh poor us travelling and all the expense isn't it obvious point of view. All counties do it.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 07/07/2023 14:29:21 2492930 Link 3 |
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Agree. I'm not complaining at all. I'm just explaining why it's so costly. I remember last year Kerry had to pay 13000 é in advance for quarter final for hotel and if Kerry had nt qualified the money was lost. Our hurlers had to fly up as the hotels were gone crazy. Anyway you right. It's a a pointless arguement as the rewards are great.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 07/07/2023 14:59:26 2492945 Link 0 |