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Refs Need To Spot These Dangerous Fouls

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Hurling is too fast though you will never get every decision right if relying on people 20-30-40 yards away.
Look, while the referee is going in to the umpires he could also say "TMO have you anything" and see.
We want the right decision, not a guess.
The Cork player should have been sent off, everybody watching saw it on relplay. I don't get the scenario where people feel those who can influence the refereeing decision should not have that luxury to make sure they come to the right decision?"
thats at games with cameras. No point trying to do this at the less than 1% of games every year that have cameras and enough cameras present as well for a TMO to be worthwhile

My proposal works far more at every level and where incidents can and do get out of hand far easier.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3755 - 31/03/2023 21:37:22    2468063

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Replying To Breffniboys:  "If you want that crack to start do you want it to go like ladies sport non-contact?"
Is rugby non contact? These are exactly the types of foul play punished in rugby.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 143 - 01/04/2023 10:32:14    2468088

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100% right. There are some very dangerous instances that happen regularly in games that never get a severe enough punishment while others look worse but are pretty harmless and they can get red.

Pulling a man backwards by the arms when he is in the air is a perfect example.

Frontal charges are particularly cowardly and dangerous although most refs punish these (while the culprit taps his own shoulder to protest his innocence!)

Head locks should be a straight red and a suspension. No place in the game.

Plenty of physicality in the game and no one wants to get rid of it. Just the scumbag stuff.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1920 - 01/04/2023 16:46:47    2468156

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Head locks!!!!!!

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2139 - 01/04/2023 17:02:09    2468159

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Head locks!!!!!!

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2139 - 01/04/2023 18:06:22    2468167

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Replying To KillingFields:  "thats at games with cameras. No point trying to do this at the less than 1% of games every year that have cameras and enough cameras present as well for a TMO to be worthwhile

My proposal works far more at every level and where incidents can and do get out of hand far easier."
I get that, but where a video is available it should be used.
In most club matches especially below adult level, the GAA is doing well to have a referee let alone impartial umpires and linesmen. They'd rather pay a mind coach for an inter county team than a linesman for a club match.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1336 - 02/04/2023 13:47:21    2468249

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I get that, but where a video is available it should be used.
In most club matches especially below adult level, the GAA is doing well to have a referee let alone impartial umpires and linesmen. They'd rather pay a mind coach for an inter county team than a linesman for a club match."
I dont think so as it isnt where the issues with officiating in GAA are. its down the levels where far more problems arise and could be fixed.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3755 - 04/04/2023 16:19:33    2468834

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Replying To themaddog:  "Is rugby non contact? These are exactly the types of foul play punished in rugby."
It's a collision sport. Gaelic Football and hurling are contact sports.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7968 - 04/04/2023 16:37:06    2468845

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There is not many on here that would want to go back to the game as it was played 50 years ago. However we are quiet all right with the antiquated methods of refereeing. The speed, skills, strength, cunningness, cheatingness of players has exploded ahead while the poor refs are trying to deal with this. Plus ambiguous rules that are the flavour of the day and then ignored. A video ref is a must that has a criteria to what is reviewable. Certainly indiscriminate hitting and any wrong play that leads to score or the score itself.
Too many don't want this citing time to do. For god sake there is more time lost when the ref makes the goalie take the puck out again because he was writing the score in his little book with a pencil. Move on and record all scores electronically. The other claim is the cost. Another joke. Maybe get the county boards to pay half what they are giving to mercenary managers to fund it. Just because these upgrades cannot be done at all levels is a bad excuse for not doing them at the elite level. I see no lines men at lower levels of hockey and soccer and no reviews but things happen a lot quicker at the top.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 05/04/2023 20:43:27    2469166

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Replying To Canuck:  "There is not many on here that would want to go back to the game as it was played 50 years ago. However we are quiet all right with the antiquated methods of refereeing. The speed, skills, strength, cunningness, cheatingness of players has exploded ahead while the poor refs are trying to deal with this. Plus ambiguous rules that are the flavour of the day and then ignored. A video ref is a must that has a criteria to what is reviewable. Certainly indiscriminate hitting and any wrong play that leads to score or the score itself.
Too many don't want this citing time to do. For god sake there is more time lost when the ref makes the goalie take the puck out again because he was writing the score in his little book with a pencil. Move on and record all scores electronically. The other claim is the cost. Another joke. Maybe get the county boards to pay half what they are giving to mercenary managers to fund it. Just because these upgrades cannot be done at all levels is a bad excuse for not doing them at the elite level. I see no lines men at lower levels of hockey and soccer and no reviews but things happen a lot quicker at the top."
A video ref isnt a must when you have between umpires, linesmen 7 officials on the field and what training assistance they get isnt good enough.. fix that/improve what training they get, what powers they have etc before adding yet another official on top of that.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3755 - 30/05/2023 10:57:04    2482805

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