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Replying To royaldunne: "The win in cork was very important for Meath this year. Need to back that up against the team who ended our championship last year . If we get 2 wins from 2 games I'd be very happy" Huge win & a really enjoyable game. SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 31/01/2023 14:30:46 2455562 Link
"Is there anything to be said for saying another mass? Just a small one. Oh god, I love saying mass." Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 203 - 31/01/2023 19:46:18 2455669 Link
Meath have full points in div2, after being outpointed in the 2 games by 35 to 22. Scored 7 goals and conceded none. Remarkable stats!! Goals win games and all that mallarky. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3410 - 05/02/2023 16:13:00 2456569 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Meath have full points in div2, after being outpointed in the 2 games by 35 to 22. Scored 7 goals and conceded none. Remarkable stats!! Goals win games and all that mallarky." We will take it. Our point scoring today was disappointing with the two main threats out with hamstrings Costello from midweek and walsh during game. Colm went to town on the schedule with the sigerson. And he's dead right. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/02/2023 19:12:50 2456712 Link
Roscommon are off to a flying start in Division 1. Monaghan will be concerned about retaining their Division 1 status. Roscommon's great start puts pressure on everyone else. Division 2 looks to be a battle between Derry, Meath and Dublin early doors. Kildare, Limerick and Louth have yet to pickup any points. 6th in Division 2 is the safety line for the All-Ireland series, with 4th offering more security. Cavan, Offaly and Down have all started strong in Division 3. They'll have to make a provincial final this year if they are to make the All-Ireland series. Antrim, Tipperary and Longford have yet to pickup points. Leitrim and Laois have started well in Division 4. Leitrim will be eyeing a Connacht semi-final win over Sligo to make the All-Ireland series. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 05/02/2023 20:40:08 2456768 Link
Cork have set the cat among the pigeons for sure! I would not have seen that coming. Puts Kildare in a position now where they have to beat Meath and Derry and probably still be depending on one of those or Dublin to beat everyone else to give them a chance of making promotion. Be a few more surprises along the way I think. Dublin won't be heading to Cork now expecting a handy one. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2524 - 05/02/2023 21:12:12 2456787 Link
Louth v Limerick Clare v Kildare These two games have a lot to be played for this weekend. 5th and 6th in Division 2 will most likely qualify for the All-Ireland series. If any of Kildare, Limerick and Louth are without a win after this weekend, it's going to be a big ask to avoid relegation. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 17/02/2023 11:54:47 2458647 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Louth v Limerick Clare v Kildare These two games have a lot to be played for this weekend. 5th and 6th in Division 2 will most likely qualify for the All-Ireland series. If any of Kildare, Limerick and Louth are without a win after this weekend, it's going to be a big ask to avoid relegation." Not sure if 6th will definitely qualify . By my understanding 6th will be ranked #14. With Westmeath and 1 from Sligo/Leitrim/New York/London guaranteed then #14 is on thin ice. All it needs is one more lower ranked team to get to provincial final in Ulster/Munster/Leinster. 1.Offaly/Longford/Louth to get to final on the side of the draw with Meath/Westmeath. ( 3/1) 2. Dublin or Kildare not to get to Leinster final or Kildare getting to Leinster final and finish 7th or 8th in Div 2. ( 10/1) 3. Limerick/Cork/Clare on same side of draw and whoever comes through could be 7th or 8th in Div 2.( Bear in mind that if one of these ends up in 7th or 8th they will be fighting for their championship lives in Munster.) (8/1) 4. Kerry not to get to Munster final (100/1) 5. Cavan/Down/Antrim to get to Ulster final from side of draw with Donegal / Armagh (3/1) 6. Fermanagh to get to Ulster final side of draw with Derry / Tyrone / Monaghan. (25/1) Each of these outcomes are low to extremely low probabilities but when you OR them together you get something not too far off even money. I wouldn't like to be sitting 6th in Div 2 Note: The odds quoted above are just my guesses and for guidelines... please don't lambast me anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 840 - 17/02/2023 12:38:00 2458656 Link
What incentive is there for Division One counties outside of Ulster, other than find some squad depth before the All Ireland series? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 17/02/2023 13:29:53 2458674 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "What incentive is there for Division One counties outside of Ulster, other than find some squad depth before the All Ireland series?" The incentive for all Division 1 teams is to retain Division 1 status. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 17/02/2023 13:48:53 2458678 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Louth v Limerick Clare v Kildare These two games have a lot to be played for this weekend. 5th and 6th in Division 2 will most likely qualify for the All-Ireland series. If any of Kildare, Limerick and Louth are without a win after this weekend, it's going to be a big ask to avoid relegation." Some pivotal games in division 2 this week. Clare v Kildare. If Kildare don't win they in serious trouble of reaching the all ire series due to new set up, as they on same side as Dublin in Leinster and unlikely to make final barring a huge upset, Meath Derry Dublin etc all ahead of them at present with Westmeath already qualified and Connaught to have a lower division team in final with draw means the places are filling up fast. Derry v meath is a game that will tell a lot about Colm's new approach. If we were to win we in great position for promotion. We have beat two teams we beat last year in league so this is a crunch match. Really looking forward to seeing what unfolds this weekend. This is where things start to take shape. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/02/2023 14:19:05 2458680 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "The incentive for all Division 1 teams is to retain Division 1 status." Yes to compete against the best players and teams. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 17/02/2023 15:34:22 2458701 Link
Replying To anotheralias: "Not sure if 6th will definitely qualify . By my understanding 6th will be ranked #14. With Westmeath and 1 from Sligo/Leitrim/New York/London guaranteed then #14 is on thin ice. All it needs is one more lower ranked team to get to provincial final in Ulster/Munster/Leinster. 1.Offaly/Longford/Louth to get to final on the side of the draw with Meath/Westmeath. ( 3/1) 2. Dublin or Kildare not to get to Leinster final or Kildare getting to Leinster final and finish 7th or 8th in Div 2. ( 10/1) 3. Limerick/Cork/Clare on same side of draw and whoever comes through could be 7th or 8th in Div 2.( Bear in mind that if one of these ends up in 7th or 8th they will be fighting for their championship lives in Munster.) (8/1) 4. Kerry not to get to Munster final (100/1) 5. Cavan/Down/Antrim to get to Ulster final from side of draw with Donegal / Armagh (3/1) 6. Fermanagh to get to Ulster final side of draw with Derry / Tyrone / Monaghan. (25/1) Each of these outcomes are low to extremely low probabilities but when you OR them together you get something not too far off even money. I wouldn't like to be sitting 6th in Div 2 Note: The odds quoted above are just my guesses and for guidelines... please don't lambast me" 1 or 2 lower league counties making a provincial final is always a reasonable possibility. Sligo v Leitrim being a Connacht semi-final puts a bit more pressure on 5th in Division 2. The top 4 in Division 2 should be safe. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 17/02/2023 16:13:24 2458713 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "The incentive for all Division 1 teams is to retain Division 1 status." They're guaranteed to be in All Ireland series regardless of how they do in their province and if they get relegated. There's no need for any team, outside of Ulster, to play their strongest team before the All Ireland Series. Ulster counties still value their provincial championship very highly. Including possible dead rubber games in All Ireland group games we could be in for a championship of less competive games than in the 2001-2022 era. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 17/02/2023 17:36:00 2458724 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Louth v Limerick Clare v Kildare These two games have a lot to be played for this weekend. 5th and 6th in Division 2 will most likely qualify for the All-Ireland series. If any of Kildare, Limerick and Louth are without a win after this weekend, it's going to be a big ask to avoid relegation." 3 down from Div 2 would make things a bit more interesting and nearly guarantee the Div 3 Champ a Sam berth as well. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 17/02/2023 20:56:55 2458748 Link
I'd combine the NFL with the AIC as follows: 1) Three-tier structure with NFL divisions 1, 2 & 3 of 12, 12 & 8 teams, respectively. 2) Create 4 ranked seeding pots of 3 for both divisions 1 & 2 and draw one from each pot to form three 4-team groups (A, B & C) in each division. 3) Teams play an 8-match 'inter-group' regular season (AvB, BvC & CvA), a quantity less rushed than the current two-phase (7+3) round robins. 4) In Div 1, the top 7 of a combined 12-team, 8-match table advance to the Tier 1 AIC KO (Sam), with the top 2 initially playing a double-chance Div 1 League Final. 5) Div 1 Champ to AI SFs, other 6 to AI QFs. 6) In Div 2, the top 7 of a combined 12-team, 8-match table advance to the Tier 2 AIC KO (P O Se Cup), with the top 2 initially playing a double-chance Div 2 League Final. 7) Div 2 Champ to AI Tier 2 SFs, Runner-Up to Tier 2 QFs, and 'other KO 5' contest a playoff round with 'Div 1 bottom 5' (5 winners to Tier 2 QFs). 8) Tier 2 SF 4 go up or retain Div 1 League status, along with the highest-ranked non-SF team, for the following season. 9) In Div 3, the 8 teams play a conventional 7-match round robin, with all 8 contesting the Tier 3 AIC KO (Tailteann Cup), after the top 2 initially play a double-chance Div 3 League Final. 10) Div 3 Champ and Div 2 8th & 9th (3 teams) to AI Tier 3 QFs, and 'other 7 in Div 3 & bottom 3 in Div 2' contest a playoff round (5 winners to Tier 3 QFs). 11) Tier 3 SF 4 go up or retain Div 2 League status, along with the highest-ranked non-SF team, for the following season. 12) Provincial Championships retained, but curtailed, if possible - top 2 (or 4) from each province, based on NFL rankings, contest respective Provincial Finals (or SFs & Finals) only - with the 4 Champs guaranteed Tier 1 AIC KO berths, if not earned via the league. What do you think? omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 17/02/2023 21:00:24 2458750 Link
Replying To omahant: "3 down from Div 2 would make things a bit more interesting and nearly guarantee the Div 3 Champ a Sam berth as well." Omahant, I'll try and enjoy the league! If you create a separate topic for the next step of change, I might entertain it there. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 18/02/2023 07:19:09 2458760 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "They're guaranteed to be in All Ireland series regardless of how they do in their province and if they get relegated. There's no need for any team, outside of Ulster, to play their strongest team before the All Ireland Series. Ulster counties still value their provincial championship very highly. Including possible dead rubber games in All Ireland group games we could be in for a championship of less competive games than in the 2001-2022 era." All Division 1 counties want to remain in Division 1. Anyone thinking any different is out of touch. If the fixture committee are sensible, the two Round 1 winners in the group stage will avoid each other in Round 2. In Round 3 you might then have two R1 winners playing for a quarter-final and two R1 losers playing for a preliminary quarter-final. If all teams are on one win each, R3 will naturally be more exciting. PQF teams will play on 3 weekends in a row. Group winners will have a weekend off prior to the quarter-finals. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 18/02/2023 07:28:55 2458761 Link
Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "I've been saying that for over a year. It's obvious. New management needed, urgently." Over a year? So they win an Ulster and All Ireland in their first year and you called for a new management team before they even played a championship game the following year lol. What could they have done over a year ago to impress you any further? I don't think you are very bright. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 18/02/2023 09:25:28 2458769 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "A lucky first year and everyone still thinks they are Gods gift. If they keep playing Mc Kernan and Matty Donnelly they are doomed. Not going to be easy to stay up now." Lucky first year? They beat Cavan (then the current Ulster champions), Donegal, Monaghan, Kerry and Mayo. That's a serious amount of luck. Who would you suggest replacing them with? Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 18/02/2023 09:28:25 2458771 Link