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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "This is a decision powered by money at the gates for replays.
A lunacy decision. Whoever on CCC came up with this should be brought in front of the CCC and handed a 96 week ban."
It was a Faythe Harriers motion.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 460 - 24/11/2022 11:33:22    2448591

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "This is a decision powered by money at the gates for replays.
A lunacy decision. Whoever on CCC came up with this should be brought in front of the CCC and handed a 96 week ban."
It was a motion from Faythe Harriers, don't think anyone from the county board drove the matter but open to correction from people who have the finger on the pulse.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 237 - 24/11/2022 11:35:05    2448592

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "This is a decision powered by money at the gates for replays.
A lunacy decision. Whoever on CCC came up with this should be brought in front of the CCC and handed a 96 week ban."
It was a motion brought forward by Faythe Harriers not the county board.

And yes its bonkers but sure!!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1044 - 24/11/2022 11:40:19    2448593

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "This is a decision powered by money at the gates for replays.
A lunacy decision. Whoever on CCC came up with this should be brought in front of the CCC and handed a 96 week ban."
The danger of jumping to conclusions, without knowing the facts.

CCC don't want it. They know well the criticism they'll get if or when they have to enforce it.

It was Faythe Harriers who came up with it, and the vast majority of clubs who supported it. The clubs weren't thinking of money at the gate. They were thinking of how it would be "unfair" to lose on penalties instead of getting a second crack at it.

Unfortunately, probably not thinking enough of how it would also be "unfair" to potentially have to a play a county semi-final, then replay, then final, on a Sunday - Wednesday - Sunday.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1225 - 24/11/2022 11:45:29    2448595

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "The danger of jumping to conclusions, without knowing the facts.

CCC don't want it. They know well the criticism they'll get if or when they have to enforce it.

It was Faythe Harriers who came up with it, and the vast majority of clubs who supported it. The clubs weren't thinking of money at the gate. They were thinking of how it would be "unfair" to lose on penalties instead of getting a second crack at it.

Unfortunately, probably not thinking enough of how it would also be "unfair" to potentially have to a play a county semi-final, then replay, then final, on a Sunday - Wednesday - Sunday."
Even this year if this existed, you would have a had a midweek replay between Annes and Martins with the winners playing Gorey on the following Sunday in a semi final, can only imagine the uproar most likely from people whose club actually backed it.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 237 - 24/11/2022 12:13:20    2448598

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "It was a motion from Faythe Harriers, don't think anyone from the county board drove the matter but open to correction from people who have the finger on the pulse."
The top table certainly wasn't pushing it. The chairman even made a point of emphasising it could mean a county semi-final, a replay and a final all in the space of seven days, with the only alternative being to to potentially hold up championships so that they might not be finished in time for Leinster. He urged the club delegates to think carefully about that before voting. They still voted overwhelmingly in favour.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1225 - 24/11/2022 12:52:12    2448605

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "This is a decision powered by money at the gates for replays.
A lunacy decision. Whoever on CCC came up with this should be brought in front of the CCC and handed a 96 week ban."
Maybe read the bulletin?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6179 - 24/11/2022 13:11:24    2448610

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Haven't heard who got suspensions for Oulart but if they're to some main players they could well end up back down in intermediate again. The GAA probably had to go in hard on both clubs, have to start setting standards somewhere with all this. Nobody wants to see these kind of scenes again but if lads are getting off lightly and there's no punishment it's always going to make it more liable to happen again...scenes like that will happen again no doubt but at least uf there's punishment lads might think twice about it.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 106 - 24/11/2022 14:20:59    2448619

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "The top table certainly wasn't pushing it. The chairman even made a point of emphasising it could mean a county semi-final, a replay and a final all in the space of seven days, with the only alternative being to to potentially hold up championships so that they might not be finished in time for Leinster. He urged the club delegates to think carefully about that before voting. They still voted overwhelmingly in favour."
It will never happen, if it comes about that a replay is required in hurling they will just push every thing back a week so aint going to affect any leinster championship. Of course it will affect the football championship but sure in reality who cares about that.

TheHogues (Wexford) - Posts: 19 - 24/11/2022 15:23:42    2448628

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Haven't heard who got suspensions for Oulart but if they're to some main players they could well end up back down in intermediate again. The GAA probably had to go in hard on both clubs, have to start setting standards somewhere with all this. Nobody wants to see these kind of scenes again but if lads are getting off lightly and there's no punishment it's always going to make it more liable to happen again...scenes like that will happen again no doubt but at least uf there's punishment lads might think twice about it."
There won't be real, enforced punishments. What will happen, as happened in every brawl previously, is the inital punishment will be meted out, delivered to media, publicity for the GAA = "hard on discipline".
What will then receive less scrutiny is the appeal, and the result of that will be the halving/quartering of suspensions to 6-9 months, so back by next Summer.
Its not the first brawl and it won't be the last. When the dist settles, the GAA revert to type.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 452 - 24/11/2022 16:00:30    2448633

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "Yes was very surprised that this got through - but look the alternative was penalties .. I honestly think I would prefer as a player to get a reply on a Tue/Wed night than have to go to penalties.

There was a very small mention of the the Age proposal that will go to Convention .. It is a tricky one and I think it will be very evenly split .. The issue isn't really the age thing returning to U12-U18 but the decoupling of U18 from Adult. Lots of the smaller clubs worried that it will affect their numbers."
Looking forward to a county semi final draw next year and replay on Wednesday night and then the final the Sunday. Player welfare gone out the window because taking a basic skill in the games of kicking or striking a penalty is not fair. Lord help us all

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1536 - 25/11/2022 12:49:46    2448689

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Replying To cheeseballlyons:  ""Hurling is more of a summer sport than football"

A phrase that really gets under my skin. By no means am I disagreeing that it isn't a faster game than football in general and yes, it's objectively more enjoyable to play and watch when the weather is good but what field sport isn't better during the summer when the weather is at its finest?"
Common sense from this poster.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1536 - 25/11/2022 12:50:39    2448690

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "Looking forward to a county semi final draw next year and replay on Wednesday night and then the final the Sunday. Player welfare gone out the window because taking a basic skill in the games of kicking or striking a penalty is not fair. Lord help us all"
Think the replays were voted in with a large majority. Agree its not well thought out if it ends up being the case that they are midweek.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6179 - 25/11/2022 13:35:49    2448700

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Great stuff to see Horeswood making the Leinster final, think they'll be at home too.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 237 - 26/11/2022 16:24:28    2448773

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Great stuff to see Horeswood making the Leinster final, think they'll be at home too."
Great result to grind it out! Good luck to them in the final. Think I will bring the kids in to see it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6179 - 26/11/2022 20:30:02    2448810

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From what I can gather, five Oulart players were suspended but only Naomh Barróg player was suspended, Oulart were given a €3,000 fine whereas Naomh Barróg were given a €2,000 fine, and Oulart were barred out of the Leinster Championship for two years whereas Naomh Barróg were allowed to play this weekend albeit they had to give up home advantage.

For me, even though I wasn't at the game, this seems a bit one-sided. Oulart are seemingly appealing the players's suspensions on the basis that worse stuff went out on the field. Allegedly, the whole melee was started off by a Naomh Barróg player who came out throwing punches; he was then punched and knocked out by one of the suspended Oulart players. However, this Naomh Barróg player was not suspended. In addition, I was told that the Naomh Barróg #8 was doing awful stuff in the melee but other Naomh Barróg players dragged him away from the melee and hence away from being caught on camera; he has not been suspended.

Again, not condoning what Oulart did and admitting that the powers that be can only go off video but the punishment meted out so far seems very one-sided.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 57 - 27/11/2022 11:39:23    2448825

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Replying To Viking66:  "Great result to grind it out! Good luck to them in the final. Think I will bring the kids in to see it."
I'll probably go too, would have went yesterday only for the weather.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 237 - 27/11/2022 17:29:35    2448876

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Great result for Horeswood, into a Leinster final. Mad how Horeswood won their hurling final months ago, went on a very good football run unbeaten and got to the county final, yet the oft spoken "13 week break" doesnt seem to have affected them at all. Delighted for them, we have 3 of 6 county champions in Leinster finals. All from New Ross too.

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 578 - 28/11/2022 09:14:43    2448906

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think the replays were voted in with a large majority. Agree its not well thought out if it ends up being the case that they are midweek."
Reality is players need protection from themselves. I doubt you would get many that would say if they were in that situation they wouldn't want ro play vs penalties even knowing that if they won they would play the final in 3 or 4 days. Player welfare would be the last thing on their minds, if that's what it takes to win a country title then they will do it. Fatigue, injury, it's only another 60mins!

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1504 - 29/11/2022 11:51:32    2449047

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Replying To zinny:  "Reality is players need protection from themselves. I doubt you would get many that would say if they were in that situation they wouldn't want ro play vs penalties even knowing that if they won they would play the final in 3 or 4 days. Player welfare would be the last thing on their minds, if that's what it takes to win a country title then they will do it. Fatigue, injury, it's only another 60mins!"
Our own players were absolutely 100% in favour of it, so that's the way our club voted. However, my personal view remains that it's only asking for trouble.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1225 - 29/11/2022 12:54:25    2449055

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