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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "There is a village in Wexford called "The Ballagh", or "Ballaghkeen" to give it its full title.
It is known to all and sundry as "The Ballagh", pronounced "Ball-ock" obviously.

I had this same challenge when I first moved to wexford.

Pikeman, great info above but I believe Faythe Harriers - Faythe being an area of Wexford town and a Harrier being a land protector/defender from the land league era?"
Ballagh, as in Oulart-The Ballagh, is actually pronounced "Balla" by we Wexican natives - i.e. the 'gh' at the end is silent. It was only the likes of Ger Canning and other broadcasters who ever added the "ock" sound.

On the other thing, am honestly not sure of the provenance of the word Harriers in the context of Faythe Harriers. Maybe there's a Land League connection all right, but then again, there are clubs in England also called Harriers (e.g. Kidderminster Harriers FC). I know there's a harrier hawk, and a harrier hunting dog - would guess the idea that being called a harrier is that you're fearless and persistent, etc.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 04/11/2022 12:30:19    2446464

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Replying To Viking66:  "Sarsfields in town named after a lad with no Wexford connection.
Shamrocks in Enniscorthy.
Not sure why Tara Rocks are called Tara Rocks but they are the smallest club in Wexford with the smallest catchment area.
Apart from that and the clubs you have already mentioned all the other current clubs are named for saints or the places they are from.
Historically a few other clubs who won County Championships or did well in hurling or football included- Shelmaliers have a history of other names- Emmets, Redmonds and the famous "Blue and Whites" and "Sally Beachers".
There was an Emmets in Enniscorthy too also named after the famous Protestant Republican .
Young Irelands were from Selskar.
And lastly Gymnasiums from New Ross who won a four in a row in football back around the turn of the last century"
Tara Rocks are a Gorey town team and have the pick of Gorey, and with their new alignment with Kilanerin, it means anyone in Gorey can technically play for Kilanerin. I havent a clue where you get they are the smallest club with smallest catchment area. Technically, they have the second largest catchment area, only clubs in Wexford town with more.

The smallest clubs, in order, are Our Ladys Island, Fethard, Clongeen and St Fintans. Those 4 clubs are smallest in any measure of population. After that then you can argue about population figures and demographics for Cloughbawn, St James', Rathnure and Blackwater being the next 4 smallest populated clubs.

Anyway, Tara Rocks are far away from being the smallest catchment area.

As for the thread, Half Way House Bunclody certainly an unusual name,

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 04/11/2022 12:44:30    2446468

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Replying To james2011:  "Tara Rocks are a Gorey town team and have the pick of Gorey, and with their new alignment with Kilanerin, it means anyone in Gorey can technically play for Kilanerin. I havent a clue where you get they are the smallest club with smallest catchment area. Technically, they have the second largest catchment area, only clubs in Wexford town with more.

The smallest clubs, in order, are Our Ladys Island, Fethard, Clongeen and St Fintans. Those 4 clubs are smallest in any measure of population. After that then you can argue about population figures and demographics for Cloughbawn, St James', Rathnure and Blackwater being the next 4 smallest populated clubs.

Anyway, Tara Rocks are far away from being the smallest catchment area.

As for the thread, Half Way House Bunclody certainly an unusual name,"
Tara Rocks claim that themselves. Only a mile or so I was told. Think HWH are named after the pub near Pat Skeltons breakers

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 04/11/2022 13:14:35    2446476

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Replying To james2011:  "Tara Rocks are a Gorey town team and have the pick of Gorey, and with their new alignment with Kilanerin, it means anyone in Gorey can technically play for Kilanerin. I havent a clue where you get they are the smallest club with smallest catchment area. Technically, they have the second largest catchment area, only clubs in Wexford town with more.

The smallest clubs, in order, are Our Ladys Island, Fethard, Clongeen and St Fintans. Those 4 clubs are smallest in any measure of population. After that then you can argue about population figures and demographics for Cloughbawn, St James', Rathnure and Blackwater being the next 4 smallest populated clubs.

Anyway, Tara Rocks are far away from being the smallest catchment area.

As for the thread, Half Way House Bunclody certainly an unusual name,"
Tara Rocks claim that themselves. Only a mile or so I was told. Think HWH are named after the pub near Pat Skeltons breakers

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 04/11/2022 13:15:00    2446477

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Replying To Viking66:  "Tara Rocks claim that themselves. Only a mile or so I was told. Think HWH are named after the pub near Pat Skeltons breakers"
I reckon you're both right about Tara Rocks. It's true that technically, anybody in Gorey parish can play for them, but on the other hand, the specific area the club was set up to serve covers only a couple of townlands.

Also reckon that Clonee would have to be in the running for title of smallest club/smallest area, although they seem to be gone more or less out of existence now. Not sure what their official status is.

As regards HWH-Bunclody, yes, true that they're called after "The Halfway" on the road that leads from Bunclody towards Kiltealy. But the crossroads there where the pub now stands was called "The Halfway" long before that particular pub opened its doors.

Was never able to find out for sure what exactly it was halfway between, but one ould lad from Bunclody (now long gone) who knew a bit about history once told me it was halfway between Tullow and New Ross, which used to be two important fair towns way back in the day, and so it was a popular stopping-off spot for people travelling between them. As I say, don't know if that's true or not, but it's probably as good a theory as any.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 04/11/2022 13:47:13    2446487

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "
Replying To Spinx:  "[quote=liosbreac6265:  "[quote=MachaireConnacht:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "For Longford see the link below for all GAA club names from 1888 to 2022.
It's some piece of work.

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That is a brilliant piece of work, thanks for linking. I just noticed that the club links from all the other counties only give the club name and contact details. There are no details on the date of formation, unless it's on the crest, or what parishes they correspond to which is a pity.

So the Roscommon one's would be and I'm open to correction as I'm not 100% on the very south club boundaries or the north-east;
St Ronans - Kilronan (Ballyfarnan-Keadue)
St Michaels - Ardcarne (Cootehall) not sure if it is the whole parish
Western Gaels - Fairymount-Frenchpark
Shannon Gaels - Croghan (not sure if the club takes in parts of other parishes)
Eire Og - Loughglynn
Michael Glaveys - Kiltullagh (Ballinlough)
St Barrys - Tarmonbarry
St Croans - Ballintubber
St Faithleachs - Kilgefin (Ballyleague)
St Josephs - Kilteevan
St Dominics - Knockcroghery
St Aidans - Ballyforan
St Brigids - Kiltoom (Possibly takes in some of Athlone/Drum?)
Clann na nGael - Moore (Not sure where Brigids stop and Clann starts)
Padraig Pearses - Taghmaconnell and Creagh

The rest all have the parish name or the main village/town."
I would take that "Longford" site with a pinch of salt Machaire. It is presented well but is riddled with inaccuracies, inconsistencies and assumptions presented as facts in relation to my own club and so I am sure others as well.

This is an interesting thread. Where would players from the Roscommon part of Aughanagh parish play, Boyle or Cootehall? We have a similar situation where part of Bornacoola parish (Leitrim) is in Longford and players from there typically play with Clonguish."]Why? The lads who run it seem to of put a lot of time and effort into their research. They have also credited where they got their info from so it's not like they pulled it from the sky!!!"]I'm not going to derail the thread any further so this is my final say on it. There surely was a lot of time put into it and information credited, but that does not mean the information is accurate. Numerous items relating to Clonguish are way off the mark eg crediting Killoe with the first 4 in a row to name just one is completely wrong. Going by social media Clonguish aren't everyone's flavour of the month so maybe no surprises there!!"]I've checked and none of those claims are made on the site. Far from claiming any 4 or 3 in a row for the Killoe club, their research proved that the first Longford 3 in a row was not Killoe 1911 to 1913 and they added evidence to support that. I would invite the wider public to visit the site and make your own judgement based on what is there. I know the lads behind that site and they have a way of contacting them thru the site to ask any questions. I done that after it launched and they were extremely helpful and provided me with documentation straight away on my questions. I would recommend you do that too. link

The site has the best package of work on club names in Longford I have ever seen and one of the best across the GAA in my opinion. Views will always vary on anything relating to history and stats and that is fine, but let's be fair to the work done and to what is and isn't claiming. PS - I'm a great fan of the Clonguish club, as I am of all clubs pushing to improve the standard of football and widen it's appeal in Longford. Let's lift each other up, not cast aspersions or discredit work arbitrarily. Clonguish agus Longfort abú.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 469 - 04/11/2022 13:50:16    2446488

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A few of the more interesting club names in Longford in the past included Legan Sunbursts (now Legan Sarsfields) which was a nod to the old Fenian sunburst flag, Ferefad Mandervilles named after the Fenian John Manderville, and a few clubs used 'Slashers' in their name (now only Longford Slashers is still around with the Slashers name) named in honour of the 17th century rebel Myles 'The Slasher' O'Reilly. You will find a few clubs in Longford and Cavan who used that 'Slashers' name over the past century at one time or another.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 469 - 04/11/2022 14:00:57    2446490

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "
Replying To liosbreac6265:  "[quote=Spinx:  "[quote=liosbreac6265:  "[quote=MachaireConnacht:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "For Longford see the link below for all GAA club names from 1888 to 2022.
It's some piece of work.

link"
That is a brilliant piece of work, thanks for linking. I just noticed that the club links from all the other counties only give the club name and contact details. There are no details on the date of formation, unless it's on the crest, or what parishes they correspond to which is a pity.

So the Roscommon one's would be and I'm open to correction as I'm not 100% on the very south club boundaries or the north-east;
St Ronans - Kilronan (Ballyfarnan-Keadue)
St Michaels - Ardcarne (Cootehall) not sure if it is the whole parish
Western Gaels - Fairymount-Frenchpark
Shannon Gaels - Croghan (not sure if the club takes in parts of other parishes)
Eire Og - Loughglynn
Michael Glaveys - Kiltullagh (Ballinlough)
St Barrys - Tarmonbarry
St Croans - Ballintubber
St Faithleachs - Kilgefin (Ballyleague)
St Josephs - Kilteevan
St Dominics - Knockcroghery
St Aidans - Ballyforan
St Brigids - Kiltoom (Possibly takes in some of Athlone/Drum?)
Clann na nGael - Moore (Not sure where Brigids stop and Clann starts)
Padraig Pearses - Taghmaconnell and Creagh

The rest all have the parish name or the main village/town."
I would take that "Longford" site with a pinch of salt Machaire. It is presented well but is riddled with inaccuracies, inconsistencies and assumptions presented as facts in relation to my own club and so I am sure others as well.

This is an interesting thread. Where would players from the Roscommon part of Aughanagh parish play, Boyle or Cootehall? We have a similar situation where part of Bornacoola parish (Leitrim) is in Longford and players from there typically play with Clonguish."]Why? The lads who run it seem to of put a lot of time and effort into their research. They have also credited where they got their info from so it's not like they pulled it from the sky!!!"]I'm not going to derail the thread any further so this is my final say on it. There surely was a lot of time put into it and information credited, but that does not mean the information is accurate. Numerous items relating to Clonguish are way off the mark eg crediting Killoe with the first 4 in a row to name just one is completely wrong. Going by social media Clonguish aren't everyone's flavour of the month so maybe no surprises there!!"]I've checked and none of those claims are made on the site. Far from claiming any 4 or 3 in a row for the Killoe club, their research proved that the first Longford 3 in a row was not Killoe 1911 to 1913 and they added evidence to support that. I would invite the wider public to visit the site and make your own judgement based on what is there. I know the lads behind that site and they have a way of contacting them thru the site to ask any questions. I done that after it launched and they were extremely helpful and provided me with documentation straight away on my questions. I would recommend you do that too. link

The site has the best package of work on club names in Longford I have ever seen and one of the best across the GAA in my opinion. Views will always vary on anything relating to history and stats and that is fine, but let's be fair to the work done and to what is and isn't claiming. PS - I'm a great fan of the Clonguish club, as I am of all clubs pushing to improve the standard of football and widen it's appeal in Longford. Let's lift each other up, not cast aspersions or discredit work arbitrarily. Clonguish agus Longfort abú."]Oh please, pass the bucket, as if anyone from Killoe is a great fan of Clonguish. We all know what went on and it all rings hollow with the gloating at the Austria West Germany style affair. That carry on deserved a 48 week ban. It will never be forgotten around Bertie Allen Park.

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 210 - 04/11/2022 14:51:43    2446501

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Replying To thelongridge:  "The Offaly clubs are usually based on their town or parish. Football Tullamore, Clara, Rhode, Edenderry, Ferbane etc. Some of the sides are dual clubs.

Hurling. Birr Kinnitty, Shinrone, Ballinamere, Coolderry, Belmont ( same parish as Ferbane) .
Shamrocks are from Rahan parish, an amalgamation of 3 former clubs , St, Carthages, Mucklagh, The Island. St. Rynagh's are from Banagher/ Cloghan. Seir Kieran are Clareen parish, the only Offaly parish in the diocese of Ossory. Lusmagh parish of the same name, west of Banagher, are in Clonfert diocese.
Clodiagh Gaels in Killeigh parish, are a combination of the former clubs Killeigh and Killurin. The river Clodiagh flows through the parish near the Laois border."
St Brigid's in Croghan too.

CmonAymonow (Laois) - Posts: 160 - 07/11/2022 10:27:27    2446712

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Had never heard of a Starlights in Wexford. There is a Starlights in north county Dublin. In same parish as the airport, hence the name apparently.

Tough crew who I think were based around two or three families, They even have a few kids teams now.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2524 - 07/11/2022 16:29:48    2446770

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Had never heard of a Starlights in Wexford. There is a Starlights in north county Dublin. In same parish as the airport, hence the name apparently.

Tough crew who I think were based around two or three families, They even have a few kids teams now."
They are the football side of the Rapparees Barney. This Millennium they have won 4 senior football titles and appeared in 6 finals. As the Rapparees they have 2 Senior Hurling titles in my lifetime.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 07/11/2022 18:00:01    2446790

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I reckon you're both right about Tara Rocks. It's true that technically, anybody in Gorey parish can play for them, but on the other hand, the specific area the club was set up to serve covers only a couple of townlands.

Also reckon that Clonee would have to be in the running for title of smallest club/smallest area, although they seem to be gone more or less out of existence now. Not sure what their official status is.

As regards HWH-Bunclody, yes, true that they're called after "The Halfway" on the road that leads from Bunclody towards Kiltealy. But the crossroads there where the pub now stands was called "The Halfway" long before that particular pub opened its doors.

Was never able to find out for sure what exactly it was halfway between, but one ould lad from Bunclody (now long gone) who knew a bit about history once told me it was halfway between Tullow and New Ross, which used to be two important fair towns way back in the day, and so it was a popular stopping-off spot for people travelling between them. As I say, don't know if that's true or not, but it's probably as good a theory as any."
Clonee, are they not a ladies football amalgamation?
I have never heard of them in any adult male GAA context?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 08/11/2022 12:19:42    2446860

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Clonee, are they not a ladies football amalgamation?
I have never heard of them in any adult male GAA context?"
That's probably a measure of their current standing as a GAA club all right!

Have a look at http://cloneegaa.com/ - http://cloneegaa.com/">link

Last updates there are from 2015. That was around the time they stopped being able to put together teams to take part in Gorey District Junior B. They haven't taken part in competition since then, and to the best of my knowledge, that means they're no longer an officially-affiliated club so far as Croke Park would be concerned, even though they claim themselves to still be in existence. Saw a brief note some while back on a bulletin from a County Board management meeting that said something like "Clonee have been asked to produce further documents", so there must be something going on behind the scenes.

They've had a strong ladies football section for a good few years all right, helped largely by the fact that ladies football doesn't have a parish rule and there were no other ladies football clubs in the immediate area. However, I think one or two have started up in recent years, and there might be plans for one or two others as well.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 08/11/2022 13:16:07    2446870

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Great stuff lads keep it up
By the way is there any Club in Clones
Never heard of one
Well known venue and town

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 13/11/2022 12:58:45    2447361

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Only three clubs in the country have Blues in their name. Newtown Blues (Louth), Culloville Blues (Armagh) and Bantry Blues (Cork).

Speaking of Newtown Blues they are one of 13 to win 3 Senior Championships in 3 different Centuries. Here is a list of the other 12 clubs to do this feat:

Rathnew (Wicklow)
Tullamore (Offaly)
Fethard (Tipp)
Portalington (Laois)
Portlaoise (Laois)
Ballina Stephenites (Mayo)
Curry (Sligo)
Mohill (Leitrim)
Castlebar Mitchells (Mayo)
Tubbercurry (Sligo)
Armagh Harps (Armagh)
Colmcille (Longford)

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 782 - 15/11/2022 14:37:53    2447662

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Only three clubs in the country have Blues in their name. Newtown Blues (Louth), Culloville Blues (Armagh) and Bantry Blues (Cork).

Speaking of Newtown Blues they are one of 13 to win 3 Senior Championships in 3 different Centuries. Here is a list of the other 12 clubs to do this feat:

Rathnew (Wicklow)
Tullamore (Offaly)
Fethard (Tipp)
Portalington (Laois)
Portlaoise (Laois)
Ballina Stephenites (Mayo)
Curry (Sligo)
Mohill (Leitrim)
Castlebar Mitchells (Mayo)
Tubbercurry (Sligo)
Armagh Harps (Armagh)
Colmcille (Longford)"
You missed one!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2524 - 15/11/2022 16:51:35    2447681

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Replying To rhudson:  "Great stuff lads keep it up
By the way is there any Club in Clones
Never heard of one
Well known venue and town"
Clones is in Clones! They are only a junior club I think. May of won the Junior Championship this year.

Oddball (Roscommon) - Posts: 888 - 15/11/2022 17:26:58    2447686

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Only three clubs in the country have Blues in their name. Newtown Blues (Louth), Culloville Blues (Armagh) and Bantry Blues (Cork).

Speaking of Newtown Blues they are one of 13 to win 3 Senior Championships in 3 different Centuries. Here is a list of the other 12 clubs to do this feat:

Rathnew (Wicklow)
Tullamore (Offaly)
Fethard (Tipp)
Portalington (Laois)
Portlaoise (Laois)
Ballina Stephenites (Mayo)
Curry (Sligo)
Mohill (Leitrim)
Castlebar Mitchells (Mayo)
Tubbercurry (Sligo)
Armagh Harps (Armagh)
Colmcille (Longford)"
Shelmaliers have won Wexford senior hurling titles in 3 different centuries as Castlebridge, Sally Beachers then Shelmaliers .

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 15/11/2022 19:03:34    2447704

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Only three clubs in the country have Blues in their name. Newtown Blues (Louth), Culloville Blues (Armagh) and Bantry Blues (Cork).

Speaking of Newtown Blues they are one of 13 to win 3 Senior Championships in 3 different Centuries. Here is a list of the other 12 clubs to do this feat:

Rathnew (Wicklow)
Tullamore (Offaly)
Fethard (Tipp)
Portalington (Laois)
Portlaoise (Laois)
Ballina Stephenites (Mayo)
Curry (Sligo)
Mohill (Leitrim)
Castlebar Mitchells (Mayo)
Tubbercurry (Sligo)
Armagh Harps (Armagh)
Colmcille (Longford)"
Blackrock and St. Finbarr's have won the Cork Senior Hurling Championship in 3 different centuries.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 16/11/2022 09:23:13    2447721

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Blackrock and St. Finbarr's have won the Cork Senior Hurling Championship in 3 different centuries."
Sorry Cockney I should of stating Football clubs.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 782 - 16/11/2022 11:14:58    2447731

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