National Forum

All Stars

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Comer had a better championship then Sean O'Shea, people should go and look back at Comers contributions throughout the championship.

O'Shea like Comer was poor in the final.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 260 - 27/10/2022 15:57:06    2445701

Link

Lee Keagan was the best defender all year last year,also Rian O Neill was best forward all year

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 406 - 27/10/2022 16:12:36    2445703

Link

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Alas only 15 players can make it and I thought the selectors got it fairly right. Yes Brendan Rogers unlucky but Morley of Kerry was brilliant right through the championship as was Jason Foley. I know I'm biased but for me from the start Foley Morley and David Clifford were certs for all stars. Rogers unlucky as was Tom Sullivan and Lee Gannon. Rian Ó Néill very unlucky but for me Ciarán Kilkenny was brilliant all year and deserved his all star. Comer also deserves award although a very quiet final. However Galway would not have been in a final only for Comer. Conroy unlucky too."
Only change that I'd make is Rian O'Neill in a direct switch with Conor Glass. Other than that, I think the selectors got things fairly right!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1926 - 27/10/2022 16:32:39    2445704

Link

Replying To Garmin:  "I dont agree!! Simple solution, set up league all stars for each division at the end of the league campaign!!"
Thats what i was getting at.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 706 - 27/10/2022 17:26:37    2445712

Link

Replying To aidan64:  "2 glaring omissions from the awards are Rian O'Neill and Tom O'Sullivan

Not sure why Rian was omitted. I think Tom's performance in the final is why he was omitted but his performances up to then were outstanding and deserving of an All Star"
Tom O'Sullivan I'm surprised didn't make the cut. Rians team probably need to reach the last 4 to get one it's how All-stars are generally picked now.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3760 - 27/10/2022 18:37:51    2445719

Link

Replying To tommy132:  "If Kilkenny didn't get one, I don't think anyone would be saying he should have got one.
Comer bit lucky, very quiet in the final but he was double marked and it freed up space for Walsh, he deserved his award.

I don't think Morley is one of the best 6 defenders in the country, he played sweeper role and didn't mark a forward all year. I did some good things in the sweeper role but I don't think he deserved an all-star."
Tommy it is totally irrelevant if Tadgh Morley is not one of the best defenders in the country.All that matters is that he was in the top six this year and he certainly was.Morley deserved his All star.You probably think i have my Kerry hat on but I try call it as i see it.You say he was nt marking but a sweeper.he did both.Cillian Mc Daid did very little marking either but he too fully deserved his All star.Kilkenny also for me was totally deserving.On nearly every team picked by reporters and fans Kilkenny was nearly on them all.After the nominations it was nearly agreed by all that the certainties on the team were Foley and Morley at the back.McDaid midfield and David Clifford Ciaran Kilkenny and Shane Walsh upfront.of course some players were unlucky but imo every player selected had a genuine claim for their position.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 27/10/2022 20:18:35    2445726

Link

Replying To tommy132:  "If Kilkenny didn't get one, I don't think anyone would be saying he should have got one.
Comer bit lucky, very quiet in the final but he was double marked and it freed up space for Walsh, he deserved his award.

I don't think Morley is one of the best 6 defenders in the country, he played sweeper role and didn't mark a forward all year. I did some good things in the sweeper role but I don't think he deserved an all-star."
Tommy it is totally irrelevant if Tadgh Morley is not one of the best defenders in the country.All that matters is that he was in the top six this year and he certainly was.Morley deserved his All star.You probably think i have my Kerry hat on but I try call it as i see it.You say he was nt marking but a sweeper.he did both.Cillian Mc Daid did very little marking either but he too fully deserved his All star.Kilkenny also for me was totally deserving.On nearly every team picked by reporters and fans Kilkenny was nearly on them all.After the nominations it was nearly agreed by all that the certainties on the team were Foley and Morley at the back.McDaid midfield and David Clifford Ciaran Kilkenny and Shane Walsh upfront.of course some players were unlucky but imo every player selected had a genuine claim for their position.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 27/10/2022 20:21:41    2445727

Link

Replying To beano:  "Conor Glass, year was a bit over-hyped. Disappeared when it mattered vs. Galway.

Rodgers has to be there, ahead of either Morley or Silke.

I'd probably plump for Rafferty in goal too given the crazy year he had in nets."
Not a hope Rafferty should have gotten one. What people are bacing it on had nothing to do with actual goalkeeping.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 27/10/2022 21:22:35    2445732

Link

Comer had a great year. A bit quiet in the final but he still plucked a kick out from the sky and won a few dirty balls when he went out the field. Even back to the Mayo game he skinned Keegan and played a brilliant hand pass for Heaneys goal.

Ruan O'Neill wasn't great against Galway.

Keegan kicked a few inspirational scores but was found out a few times defending. Probably suffering like Sean Kelly filling in positions that are not his best for benefit of team.

Conor Glass had some great games but was very against Galway but he had a good year overall

Not a bad team really

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1834 - 27/10/2022 21:39:39    2445734

Link

Footballer of the year probably a flip of a coin between Clifford and Walsh?
I think Walsh could edge it.
Opinions?

LetsPlayBall (Galway) - Posts: 51 - 28/10/2022 07:27:09    2445735

Link

Given that the game has evolved to being a twenty man panel including subs should the All Stars not be a twenty player selection? If they picked one sub for each line full back to full forward it would be more reflective of a full team selection and would allow for a bit more recognition of players. Just a thought.

NorthWestern (Galway) - Posts: 14 - 28/10/2022 07:31:12    2445736

Link

I know that the awards are for individual performance but I think Galway and Derry having served up one of the worst semis for years and then Galway playing very much a supporting act to Kerry in the final, both teams, especially Galway surely must be chuffed to get such recognition.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 685 - 28/10/2022 08:46:16    2445740

Link

Replying To sligo joe:  "I know that the awards are for individual performance but I think Galway and Derry having served up one of the worst semis for years and then Galway playing very much a supporting act to Kerry in the final, both teams, especially Galway surely must be chuffed to get such recognition."
One word for this ... codswollop.
1. Galway were involved in probably the 2 most entertaining games of the year . QF and Final
2. They were much much more than a supporting act in the AI final . Yes , second best, but marginally enough so.
3. Beat 2 x Div 1 teams in Connacht

The Derry game was poor entertainment and people criticise the poor scoring rate 2-8 to 1-6.
Interestingly enough same number of points as Dublin v Donegal in 2011 0-8 to 0-6 , with 3 goals less.
Dublin got 6 All stars that year ... Dublin must have been very chuffed with that recognition!

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 842 - 28/10/2022 09:52:51    2445746

Link

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Tommy it is totally irrelevant if Tadgh Morley is not one of the best defenders in the country.All that matters is that he was in the top six this year and he certainly was.Morley deserved his All star.You probably think i have my Kerry hat on but I try call it as i see it.You say he was nt marking but a sweeper.he did both.Cillian Mc Daid did very little marking either but he too fully deserved his All star.Kilkenny also for me was totally deserving.On nearly every team picked by reporters and fans Kilkenny was nearly on them all.After the nominations it was nearly agreed by all that the certainties on the team were Foley and Morley at the back.McDaid midfield and David Clifford Ciaran Kilkenny and Shane Walsh upfront.of course some players were unlucky but imo every player selected had a genuine claim for their position."
Fully agree with your analysis, Mick. You're always objective. If Morley was from another county not Kerry, and had the same good year, I know that you'd champion his case too, even against a Kerry man. Tadhg Morley 100% deserved an AS, from what I saw anyway happening on the football fields of Ireland this year.

That's what I really commend about certain posters on HS; being able to see beyond the county biases and blinkers. A yank has no such problems.

Okay, I'm inclined to throw a slight dig now and again at certain good posters on here (Viking, Tiobraid, KK Cat, Canuck, Barney G, yourself Mick, and 3-4 of those Limerick lads…probably forgetting a few good posters too), but that's actually kind of out of respect: a bit of craic. I kind of know those who can take it and give it back full load. I'd hate to ever take candy off a child though, so I leave some posters well enough alone.

However, where I can get nasty is with the me-feiners, those that can never see beyond their own county, negative people and posters who think that there is an agenda/conspiracy against their county/province.

"Let and let live" is my motto, but at the same time, don't entertain BS!

Tadgh Morley, 100% an AS.

Posters who say he isn't, 100% an ASS!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1926 - 28/10/2022 10:04:20    2445747

Link

Replying To sligo joe:  "I know that the awards are for individual performance but I think Galway and Derry having served up one of the worst semis for years and then Galway playing very much a supporting act to Kerry in the final, both teams, especially Galway surely must be chuffed to get such recognition."
Galway were outstanding and the narrative around us is lazy. We were far from a supporting act against Kerry, we played the games without our No 1 Goalkeeper (Flaherty) , our first choice fullback (Mulkerrins), and one of the best players in Galway (Michael Daly) with 3 serious injuries, now take Shane Ryan, Jason Foley and say Paul Geeney out of the Kerry team and see what the result would have been?

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 722 - 28/10/2022 10:16:38    2445750

Link

Replying To LetsPlayBall:  "Footballer of the year probably a flip of a coin between Clifford and Walsh?
I think Walsh could edge it.
Opinions?"
Unfortunately no chance. Any other year, yes. But there is no chance that DC wont get it.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 842 - 28/10/2022 10:23:13    2445753

Link

Replying To sligo joe:  "I know that the awards are for individual performance but I think Galway and Derry having served up one of the worst semis for years and then Galway playing very much a supporting act to Kerry in the final, both teams, especially Galway surely must be chuffed to get such recognition."
Sligo Joe, utter tripe. Just to say Galway were 'very much a supporting act' displays a distinct lack of knowledge of the game and perhaps a little anti-Galway bias, I suspect. Some facts for you 'Sligo Joe' from Dublin. I'll bring you back to the AI final for a min.
Yes we lost but it was an absolute battle. The players from both sides will tell you that.
8mins - Galway 0-2, Kerry 0-0
12 mins - Galway 0-4, Kerry 0-1
17mins - Galway 0-5, Kerry 0-2
22 mins - Galway 0-6, Kerry 0-5
Half time - Galway 0-8, Kerry 0-7 (don't think we're a supporting act there now, Galway leading, the game was totally in the melting pot. Nobody in Croke Park on the day could safely predict which way it would go).
36 mins - Galway 0-9, Kerry 0-8
40 mins - Galway 0-10, Kerry 0-9
43 mins - Galway 0-11, Kerry 0-11
46 mins - Galway 0-14, Kerry 0-12 (so Sligo Joe that's us leading Kerry at half time and two thirds- still not a supporting act for them!)
65 mins - Galway 0-16, Kerry 0-16 (still level on 65 mins, we're some supporting act alright! Then ref utterly gifted Clifford a match turning free when it was categorically a free out under the rule book. A match swinging decision by the officials in my book).
Yes, they want on to close out the game on us but Galway battled proudly. Belittling their effort like you have is just nonsense.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 906 - 28/10/2022 10:36:01    2445755

Link

Replying To anotheralias:  "One word for this ... codswollop.
1. Galway were involved in probably the 2 most entertaining games of the year . QF and Final
2. They were much much more than a supporting act in the AI final . Yes , second best, but marginally enough so.
3. Beat 2 x Div 1 teams in Connacht

The Derry game was poor entertainment and people criticise the poor scoring rate 2-8 to 1-6.
Interestingly enough same number of points as Dublin v Donegal in 2011 0-8 to 0-6 , with 3 goals less.
Dublin got 6 All stars that year ... Dublin must have been very chuffed with that recognition!"
I think "probably" is a wise word in your first point regarding the most entertaining games as it allows you ignore the other semi which was game of the year.
Regarding 2011, I agree with you 100% and I was surprised at the excessive Dublin recognition, I appreciate that you see the similarity with Galway this year LOL.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 685 - 28/10/2022 10:46:30    2445756

Link

I love the All Stars. Brilliant to recognize the top 15 players of the year. Of course everyone is Parochial and gets annoyed because certain players didn't get the award. I go to see my club playing and a lot of the time I don't agree on the 15 players that started and that's only a senior club Brian Fenton is probably still the best midfielders in the country, did he get an All Star No. Did he deserves one . Also No.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1663 - 28/10/2022 11:26:17    2445765

Link

Replying To Mayonman:  "Comer had a great year. A bit quiet in the final but he still plucked a kick out from the sky and won a few dirty balls when he went out the field. Even back to the Mayo game he skinned Keegan and played a brilliant hand pass for Heaneys goal.

Ruan O'Neill wasn't great against Galway.

Keegan kicked a few inspirational scores but was found out a few times defending. Probably suffering like Sean Kelly filling in positions that are not his best for benefit of team.

Conor Glass had some great games but was very against Galway but he had a good year overall

Not a bad team really"
When exactly was Keegan found out defending?

Even against Kerry he marked Paudi Clifford out of the game and Paudi was one of the main reasons Kerry won the semi final and final.

Keegan was never going to get an all star, but that's only because Mayo didn't go far enough in the championship.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 28/10/2022 11:30:12    2445766

Link