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Haven't been to Pairc Ui Chaoimh since it was reopened so will probably make the trip down on Sunday but tbh it is very easy to envision a lazy Sunday on the couch watching sport as well. I'll wait for team news, if it's another experimental/fringe team I might be tempted to stay at home ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 08/03/2023 18:54:26 2462872 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "McGuckin is starting under Egan every day of the week. He has no reason to drop him, the amount of turnovers, hooks and blocks he is getting in matches is consistently high. Good puck out option too." Can't fault his effort but his stick work is still very average. Must have been blocked or hooked 4 or 5 times v Clare, that shouldn't be happening at this level to any player. Egan obviously rates him though as has given him every chance. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 08/03/2023 20:43:31 2462888 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Based on what I've seen so far this season and assuming everyone is available, but bearing in mind Chin isn't going to be able to motor all game playing in the middle 8, I'd be going with this team for Cork- Fanning S Reck, MOH, Devitt Donohue, D Reck, Carty Dee, K Foley O Foley, Mogie, Dunbar Chin, Mac, Rory Subs- J Lawlor, Jacko, Dwyer, Mcguckin, Hearne, Clarke, Higgins, Flood, C Foley, N Murphy, Byrne Dunbar. As an aside that's I think 9 lads on the panel who were on the good 2018 u21 team. 10 if you include Flood. More of these lads than have done should've been getting a good amount of League gametime before this year. Probably 2 or 3 years ago. But better late than never!" Really don't think Reck is a 6 and we need to find one urgently. Maybe Devitt or Flood? Someone to anchor that defence anyway and avoid a situation where our full back line is sold out with a HB line gone awol. That defensive organisation was a shambles against Clare so let's hope it's a lot better this weekend. I know you can't drop everyone but McGovern was simply miles off the pace against Clare for me. McDonald also needs to learn that his movement and workrate are nowhere near up to scratch, maybe the penny might drop for him watching on from the bench. McGuckian will start anyway and one of Dwyer/Higgins instead of Mac. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 08/03/2023 21:33:25 2462893 Link
Replying To Timbertony: "Really don't think Reck is a 6 and we need to find one urgently. Maybe Devitt or Flood? Someone to anchor that defence anyway and avoid a situation where our full back line is sold out with a HB line gone awol. That defensive organisation was a shambles against Clare so let's hope it's a lot better this weekend. I know you can't drop everyone but McGovern was simply miles off the pace against Clare for me. McDonald also needs to learn that his movement and workrate are nowhere near up to scratch, maybe the penny might drop for him watching on from the bench. McGuckian will start anyway and one of Dwyer/Higgins instead of Mac." Mcgovern only rejoined the panel around a month ago. I think he needs to play every minute of every game to catch back up tbh. Flood is a great natural hurler but wouldn't have the same fight that Damien Reck has. Reck does go forwards alot for sure, but then it is up to the wingbacks and midfielders to cover that space when he does. They need to be lads who know their positions defensively speaking and that's why I named the 4 lads I named in my team for the Cork game. Was wondering myself would a spell on the bench do Mac any good. It has been suggested on this for the last 5 or 6 years. I remember Davy starting Dunbar instead of him in one game I think. Dwyer and Higgins certainty put the effort in in fairness to both, and Dwyer in particular is deceptively strong. Both are also good point takers in any of the games I saw them play in, underage, Fitzgibbon, club and intercounty, Dwyers point in Nowlan Park last year was one of the best individual points I ever saw scored at any level. But neither seem to score too many goals, although Dwyers did win our League game against Limerick last year. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 09/03/2023 10:57:47 2462924 Link
Wouldn't surprise me if the game on Sunday will not go ahead with the way the weather is at present. Maybe that might not be a bad thing as it would give our recently injured players more time to recover until its rescheduled. Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 545 - 09/03/2023 14:43:05 2462994 Link
Replying To Magpie2: "Wouldn't surprise me if the game on Sunday will not go ahead with the way the weather is at present. Maybe that might not be a bad thing as it would give our recently injured players more time to recover until its rescheduled." Was actually just checking the forecast to see what might be in store for us. It's to be cold for the next day or so all right, but temperatures in both Wexford and Cork are to be back up to 10 to 12 degrees for Saturday and Sunday. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3009 - 09/03/2023 15:37:42 2463012 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Was actually just checking the forecast to see what might be in store for us. It's to be cold for the next day or so all right, but temperatures in both Wexford and Cork are to be back up to 10 to 12 degrees for Saturday and Sunday." Should be grand by Sunday, the pitch in PUC is as good as any in the country after they re-laid it over 3 years ago so should hold up fine. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 09/03/2023 16:50:29 2463036 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Mcgovern only rejoined the panel around a month ago. I think he needs to play every minute of every game to catch back up tbh. Flood is a great natural hurler but wouldn't have the same fight that Damien Reck has. Reck does go forwards alot for sure, but then it is up to the wingbacks and midfielders to cover that space when he does. They need to be lads who know their positions defensively speaking and that's why I named the 4 lads I named in my team for the Cork game. Was wondering myself would a spell on the bench do Mac any good. It has been suggested on this for the last 5 or 6 years. I remember Davy starting Dunbar instead of him in one game I think. Dwyer and Higgins certainty put the effort in in fairness to both, and Dwyer in particular is deceptively strong. Both are also good point takers in any of the games I saw them play in, underage, Fitzgibbon, club and intercounty, Dwyers point in Nowlan Park last year was one of the best individual points I ever saw scored at any level. But neither seem to score too many goals, although Dwyers did win our League game against Limerick last year." Mac will get away with it as long as management let him get away it. Davy let him away with not working hard enough and now so does Egan. He was very good Wexford in 2019, but has been only so so since then. The problem is his full forward position hadn't been threatened by another ball winning full forward in the squad. He is beaten in nearly every footrace with a low ball and if you can't get the ball you ain't going to do much damage on the scoreboard. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 09/03/2023 17:07:44 2463046 Link
Replying To Magpie2: "Wouldn't surprise me if the game on Sunday will not go ahead with the way the weather is at present. Maybe that might not be a bad thing as it would give our recently injured players more time to recover until its rescheduled." Why would it not go ahead? PUC should have the best of modern pitch developments and the snow shouldn't be an issue there either. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 09/03/2023 17:09:07 2463048 Link
Replying To Timbertony: "Can't fault his effort but his stick work is still very average. Must have been blocked or hooked 4 or 5 times v Clare, that shouldn't be happening at this level to any player. Egan obviously rates him though as has given him every chance." He was poor against Clare certainly not alone in that but he'd been going well in the games up to that, could even see he caught the of national media, podcasts etc with his displays in the games covered live on stream or TV. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 09/03/2023 17:09:17 2463049 Link
Replying To Magpie2: "Wouldn't surprise me if the game on Sunday will not go ahead with the way the weather is at present. Maybe that might not be a bad thing as it would give our recently injured players more time to recover until its rescheduled." I don't think the weather is to be as bad come Sunday lunchtime. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 09/03/2023 17:10:46 2463051 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Was actually just checking the forecast to see what might be in store for us. It's to be cold for the next day or so all right, but temperatures in both Wexford and Cork are to be back up to 10 to 12 degrees for Saturday and Sunday." Thanks pikeman. On reflection perhaps its better that we play this week. Probably enough time to have got that embarrassing Clare game out of their systems. Hopefully Chin and Rory are ready to go. Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 545 - 09/03/2023 17:38:15 2463058 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "Mac will get away with it as long as management let him get away it. Davy let him away with not working hard enough and now so does Egan. He was very good Wexford in 2019, but has been only so so since then. The problem is his full forward position hadn't been threatened by another ball winning full forward in the squad. He is beaten in nearly every footrace with a low ball and if you can't get the ball you ain't going to do much damage on the scoreboard." Thought he played well v Galway last year but poor in all the other championship games. Shocking miss v Dublin cost us that game. Davy tried him in the half forward line for a while. He isn't blessed with pace but neither was someone like Andy Moran. Movement is more important and his is non existent. First touch and striking under pressure nowhere near sharp enough either. Ability to win ball in the air (or at a minimum breaking it) not what it was. Maybe the league match in Galway a couple of years back was the last we saw of him at his best? Always involved in some mindless indiscipline too, wouldn't mind it if it was trying to win a hard ball. Very fortunate he didn't get a second yellow the last day. Maybe a spell on the bench watching more limited but harder working players might deliver a long overdue reality check. Few more in that camp too like Jacko. That's how Brian Cody would deal with them anyway. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 09/03/2023 21:02:49 2463087 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "Mac will get away with it as long as management let him get away it. Davy let him away with not working hard enough and now so does Egan. He was very good Wexford in 2019, but has been only so so since then. The problem is his full forward position hadn't been threatened by another ball winning full forward in the squad. He is beaten in nearly every footrace with a low ball and if you can't get the ball you ain't going to do much damage on the scoreboard." He's good in the air but when he's on anyone some way strong he doesn't even win high ball, any time he's on Daithi Burke, Gearoid Mac, Conor Cleary etc he doesn't even offer that. I thought we were on to a super star when he was starting off, couod argue his best years for Wexford were around 2014 when he was so young. Patches in 2019 but nothing since. Seems like a decent fella but he's very unreliable with performances. Might score a super point or something that covers it a but but he's so frustrating. Pace has always been a problem so won't hold him been beaten to the corners too much but he doesn't win high ball at all against top teams. Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 332 - 10/03/2023 10:21:33 2463121 Link
Replying To Timbertony: "Thought he played well v Galway last year but poor in all the other championship games. Shocking miss v Dublin cost us that game. Davy tried him in the half forward line for a while. He isn't blessed with pace but neither was someone like Andy Moran. Movement is more important and his is non existent. First touch and striking under pressure nowhere near sharp enough either. Ability to win ball in the air (or at a minimum breaking it) not what it was. Maybe the league match in Galway a couple of years back was the last we saw of him at his best? Always involved in some mindless indiscipline too, wouldn't mind it if it was trying to win a hard ball. Very fortunate he didn't get a second yellow the last day. Maybe a spell on the bench watching more limited but harder working players might deliver a long overdue reality check. Few more in that camp too like Jacko. That's how Brian Cody would deal with them anyway." Unless you saw something else t in Wexford Park last Sunday week, I doubt there are "harder working players" on the sideline for Wexford...... ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1460 - 10/03/2023 11:33:07 2463149 Link
Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "He's good in the air but when he's on anyone some way strong he doesn't even win high ball, any time he's on Daithi Burke, Gearoid Mac, Conor Cleary etc he doesn't even offer that. I thought we were on to a super star when he was starting off, couod argue his best years for Wexford were around 2014 when he was so young. Patches in 2019 but nothing since. Seems like a decent fella but he's very unreliable with performances. Might score a super point or something that covers it a but but he's so frustrating. Pace has always been a problem so won't hold him been beaten to the corners too much but he doesn't win high ball at all against top teams." First 5 yards of pace is everything in modern day inter county hurling. The Galway lads will even tell you Joe Canning was quick over the first few yards, Joe was out in front all the time in his prime and savage in the air. Seamie Callinan & Ritchie Power were very quick too. You'll get away with it in senior club hurling but not inter county. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 10/03/2023 11:54:38 2463159 Link
There is also a few lads under Davy & Egan no matter how bad they play are not dropped. Again, wouldn't have happened when Cody was on the mission of winning all Ireland's Lads get too comfortable and don't improve. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 10/03/2023 11:57:35 2463160 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "Unless you saw something else t in Wexford Park last Sunday week, I doubt there are "harder working players" on the sideline for Wexford......" Dwyer is alot harder working, as are Dunbar, Mcguckin, Hearne, Higgins, Oisin Foley, Mogie, Chin, Rory, Kevin Foley to name the lads who could start in our front 6. Even Banville and intensity would be the main weakness in Ross's game. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 10/03/2023 12:35:58 2463171 Link
https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-41088532.html Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 10/03/2023 13:22:46 2463192 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "There is also a few lads under Davy & Egan no matter how bad they play are not dropped. Again, wouldn't have happened when Cody was on the mission of winning all Ireland's Lads get too comfortable and don't improve." It was easier for Cody to drop lads he had lads just as good to come on we are not in that position. Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 410 - 10/03/2023 18:42:19 2463275 Link