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Underdogs 2022

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Interested to see what way the underdogs get on. Has a good standard of hurler actually applied for this and will they actually put up a good showing? Felt like the new football reboot wasn't great and the standard was pretty poor, was more about sob stories and all that, not taking a dig at those lads but it seemed to be more about creating TV sob moments than unearthing hidden gems of players. The original series seemed fo attract a higher standard of player, maybe good club hurlers don't want to be missing out on their own club training or something

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 22 - 16/09/2022 16:11:00    2440904

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Watch it last night. Definitely lads with big ideas about themselves. The lad from Leitrim I think being one. Didn't get picked basically made them give him a second chance wasn't picked again and still wasn't happy.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1019 - 16/09/2022 16:22:59    2440907

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Interested to see what way the underdogs get on. Has a good standard of hurler actually applied for this and will they actually put up a good showing? Felt like the new football reboot wasn't great and the standard was pretty poor, was more about sob stories and all that, not taking a dig at those lads but it seemed to be more about creating TV sob moments than unearthing hidden gems of players. The original series seemed fo attract a higher standard of player, maybe good club hurlers don't want to be missing out on their own club training or something"
I'd say with the commitment levels now with clubs hard for lads to juggle, didn't see the show last night but was reading Jerry Kelly from Borrisoleigh is on it, surprised he never got a run with Tipp, played Fitzgibbon this year with IT Carlow, Gorey's Tom Stafford flying the Wexford flag I believe.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 32 - 16/09/2022 17:36:26    2440915

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Interested to see what way the underdogs get on. Has a good standard of hurler actually applied for this and will they actually put up a good showing? Felt like the new football reboot wasn't great and the standard was pretty poor, was more about sob stories and all that, not taking a dig at those lads but it seemed to be more about creating TV sob moments than unearthing hidden gems of players. The original series seemed fo attract a higher standard of player, maybe good club hurlers don't want to be missing out on their own club training or something"
Looks to be much of the same this year. A well known club hurler in Galway was sent home, and by the looks of the some of the lads that were kept, they're there for the sob story or the Gaeilge maybe… does anybody know who they're playing? A decent senior club team would have beaten any of the football teams in years gone by, same way with the ladies team. It's unfortunate it doesn't get the proper buy in to discover an unknown gem but realistically any guy playing a decent standard with his club isn't going to be allowed by his club to be going playing that. Don't get me wrong, it's a great show in theory but doesn't work in practice. There won't be any Kieran Donaghy I don't think..

GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 92 - 16/09/2022 20:34:13    2440922

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Interested to see what way the underdogs get on. Has a good standard of hurler actually applied for this and will they actually put up a good showing? Felt like the new football reboot wasn't great and the standard was pretty poor, was more about sob stories and all that, not taking a dig at those lads but it seemed to be more about creating TV sob moments than unearthing hidden gems of players. The original series seemed fo attract a higher standard of player, maybe good club hurlers don't want to be missing out on their own club training or something"
Didn't see the football one, but I'd imagine you're right and that's how things are nowadays - click-bait moments that resonate with a general audience as opposed to a straightforward unearthing of overlooked club talent

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 55 - 16/09/2022 21:02:24    2440923

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Replying To GalwaysFinest:  "Looks to be much of the same this year. A well known club hurler in Galway was sent home, and by the looks of the some of the lads that were kept, they're there for the sob story or the Gaeilge maybe… does anybody know who they're playing? A decent senior club team would have beaten any of the football teams in years gone by, same way with the ladies team. It's unfortunate it doesn't get the proper buy in to discover an unknown gem but realistically any guy playing a decent standard with his club isn't going to be allowed by his club to be going playing that. Don't get me wrong, it's a great show in theory but doesn't work in practice. There won't be any Kieran Donaghy I don't think.."
The footballing equivalent even lost to an intermediate club football team at one stage. Guess it's more about making some TV moments rather than finding some gems. Pity because it is actually a great concept. Some of the last underdogs hurling team even made it on to county panels after. Niall Corcoran probably the most notable. Michael Grace got a few runs with Kilkenny after as well and few more lads got onto panels at various stages. Davy Canning, Joe's brother, as well was a very integral part of one of the best club teams of all time.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 22 - 17/09/2022 09:45:03    2440936

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Replying To oneoff:  "Watch it last night. Definitely lads with big ideas about themselves. The lad from Leitrim I think being one. Didn't get picked basically made them give him a second chance wasn't picked again and still wasn't happy."
Definitely an oxymoron in there...Leitrim & hurler

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 265 - 20/09/2022 13:15:13    2441298

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Replying To GalwaysFinest:  "Looks to be much of the same this year. A well known club hurler in Galway was sent home, and by the looks of the some of the lads that were kept, they're there for the sob story or the Gaeilge maybe… does anybody know who they're playing? A decent senior club team would have beaten any of the football teams in years gone by, same way with the ladies team. It's unfortunate it doesn't get the proper buy in to discover an unknown gem but realistically any guy playing a decent standard with his club isn't going to be allowed by his club to be going playing that. Don't get me wrong, it's a great show in theory but doesn't work in practice. There won't be any Kieran Donaghy I don't think.."
what club?

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 413 - 20/09/2022 14:28:11    2441316

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I'd love to see the rawness of the first season of lads who really feel hard done by not being included on county panels. People with a point to prove not just those who have a good backstory.
I am from a weaker tradional county hurling wise but there is absolutely no reason why weaker county hurlers are being involved in this years underdogs, they are obviouslly stand out players with in their own county and if not there is a reason they are not playing on their county panels.
No disrespect to any person who puts themselves out there but if you arent good enough, thats the end of it tbh.
It should be aimed at the top 12 hurling counties and lads who cant break through to their counties training panels (we all know good lads, who with a bit more hard work that could do it!!)

bountyboy22 (USA) - Posts: 6 - 20/09/2022 14:51:39    2441320

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Replying To bountyboy22:  "I'd love to see the rawness of the first season of lads who really feel hard done by not being included on county panels. People with a point to prove not just those who have a good backstory.
I am from a weaker tradional county hurling wise but there is absolutely no reason why weaker county hurlers are being involved in this years underdogs, they are obviouslly stand out players with in their own county and if not there is a reason they are not playing on their county panels.
No disrespect to any person who puts themselves out there but if you arent good enough, thats the end of it tbh.
It should be aimed at the top 12 hurling counties and lads who cant break through to their counties training panels (we all know good lads, who with a bit more hard work that could do it!!)"
In the modern game in both codes very few lads slip through the cracks and aren't seen.

Didn't see the ladies one last year and not sure how it worked. But in the two football ones you'd lads who weren't even starting for their clubs on the starting team. Sending lads out to be hammered by a county third choice team is not benefiting anyone.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1019 - 23/09/2022 08:49:29    2441604

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Any links online to the original series?

the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 163 - 25/09/2022 10:39:38    2441767

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Definitely an oxymoron in there...Leitrim & hurler"
God forbid a lad wouldn't be allowed be disappointed not being picked.... anyhow we dont all have JP's writing the cheques.... you'd probably be looking for "oxymorons" yourself if he wasnt....

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 438 - 25/09/2022 11:10:53    2441770

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Replying To Square_B:  "God forbid a lad wouldn't be allowed be disappointed not being picked.... anyhow we dont all have JP's writing the cheques.... you'd probably be looking for "oxymorons" yourself if he wasnt...."
Ah ya, JP's money explains it all. Lazy comment

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 265 - 25/09/2022 21:46:19    2441849

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Replying To Square_B:  "God forbid a lad wouldn't be allowed be disappointed not being picked.... anyhow we dont all have JP's writing the cheques.... you'd probably be looking for "oxymorons" yourself if he wasnt...."
There's being disappointed with not being picked and waiting change after change and going off in a sulk when you don't get that. He shouldn't have been given the second chance anyway.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1019 - 26/09/2022 10:48:29    2441889

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