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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "any rumours who trainer or coaci is or who selectors are?"
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Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2974 - 13/09/2022 08:28:46    2440474

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "any rumours who trainer or coaci is or who selectors are?"
Steven Poacher was mentioned to me over the weekend.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 13/09/2022 10:26:03    2440486

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Steven Poacher was mentioned to me over the weekend."
just heard that, he is highly regarded i believe

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2974 - 13/09/2022 10:55:24    2440493

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "just heard that, he is highly regarded i believe"
yeah I think he would be too although would have a reputation as a defensive coach (maybe that's what we need), was involved with Carlow for 2-3 years during there good spell and I think did a year with Roscommon. From hearing him in interviews I think he's based in Newry.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 13/09/2022 11:17:50    2440498

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Have heard that name mentioned too. He was with Roscommon last year, and was previously part of the "Carlow Rising" set-up of a few years ago. Could be a good catch for us.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 13/09/2022 11:21:25    2440499

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "yeah I think he would be too although would have a reputation as a defensive coach (maybe that's what we need), was involved with Carlow for 2-3 years during there good spell and I think did a year with Roscommon. From hearing him in interviews I think he's based in Newry."
From his own words he was asked to be the Carlow manager

"The county board contacted me and asked would I be interested and things like that as well. Look, I'm going to be totally honest, deep down my heart just wasn't in it. I'm back in Down now, I'm involved with the minors, I'm back working in Newry in St Joseph's (School), I'm very content.

"I've lost that travel, I'm getting my handicap cut every other week in golf so I'm just enjoying the time I have back

Not sure anything has changed in terms of his employment. Newry to Ferns, two and a half hours if no traffic on the M50/M11

I wouldn't be surprised if he brings in the same guy he has at the Shels - Damien McMahon

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1969 - 13/09/2022 13:04:56    2440518

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think you are wronging Roche a little with this post. Our playing style was fairly entertaining but we left ourselves too open for sucker punches, usually goals on the counter. This cost us in most of the League games we lost that I saw the last couple years. Also we had a good record against higher ranked teams except for Dublin. A 100% record in Leinster the last couple years in fact."
Viking. Our playing style may have been entertaining and that's good but being entertaining doesn't necessarily win matches. It was obvious to most people that a change was indeed required.
Micheal Martin said in an interview last Saturday that we are ranked 29th out of 32 in the leagues.
As Johnny Doyle of Kildare fame once said " I was never asked by management to go out and entertain the supporters.
So if our playing style was alright why then are we constantly on one of the bottom rungs of the bottom division?
You mention that we left ourselves open for sucker punch goals too often, which was true and that was against very weak opposition and was very embarrassing.
Yes we had a reasonable record in the early stages of the championship over the last few years and beating Offaly this year was positive but we need strong leadership into the future to make progress.
Shane Roche was a dedicated manager and deserves credit but I always felt that team selections and positional changes were somewhat baffling.
Hopefully John Hegarty will put things right and claw our way out of the bottom division from where we will get no respect.
The pool of players is limited but with a bit of tweaking and good decisions on the line I believe we can be competitive, not now and again but with more regularity.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 454 - 13/09/2022 13:56:57    2440529

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Viking. Our playing style may have been entertaining and that's good but being entertaining doesn't necessarily win matches. It was obvious to most people that a change was indeed required.
Micheal Martin said in an interview last Saturday that we are ranked 29th out of 32 in the leagues.
As Johnny Doyle of Kildare fame once said " I was never asked by management to go out and entertain the supporters.
So if our playing style was alright why then are we constantly on one of the bottom rungs of the bottom division?
You mention that we left ourselves open for sucker punch goals too often, which was true and that was against very weak opposition and was very embarrassing.
Yes we had a reasonable record in the early stages of the championship over the last few years and beating Offaly this year was positive but we need strong leadership into the future to make progress.
Shane Roche was a dedicated manager and deserves credit but I always felt that team selections and positional changes were somewhat baffling.
Hopefully John Hegarty will put things right and claw our way out of the bottom division from where we will get no respect.
The pool of players is limited but with a bit of tweaking and good decisions on the line I believe we can be competitive, not now and again but with more regularity."
We did beat Wicklow also but I agree his inexperience told. And you are 100% right entertaining football doesn't win games. This is what's turning people off football in the county btw.
In particular we didn't defend from the front well enough. I even suggested on this forum putting Glen Malone in at centre forward as a kind of stopper/spoiler when we committed our backs forward in order to slow down counterattacks as they develop around the opponents 45-65.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15742 - 13/09/2022 14:24:46    2440531

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "yeah I think he would be too although would have a reputation as a defensive coach (maybe that's what we need), was involved with Carlow for 2-3 years during there good spell and I think did a year with Roscommon. From hearing him in interviews I think he's based in Newry."
least we will stop giving away soft goals , we will have 5 or 6 in full back line

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2974 - 13/09/2022 14:37:13    2440535

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I believe that if we get a defensive coach that has a pedigree who will give his time to coaching backs how to defend properly and not leak goals we can win more games than we lose.
Of course that is easier said than done.
However. We must learn to defend and work as a tight knit unit. Sounds simple really but if we frustrate opposition forwards and keep their score low then we won't have to score too much at the other end. We have good defenders and if given the proper advice we can win games that we would have lost in the past.
Getting the right coach/ coaches is the problem.
It will be interesting to see who is appointed.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 454 - 13/09/2022 17:06:15    2440573

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wonder will the new manager ask o gara on board in some way?

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2974 - 13/09/2022 18:38:00    2440582

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "wonder will the new manager ask o gara on board in some way?"
Given his age I'd imagine in a playing capacity is off the table anyway.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 13/09/2022 18:55:49    2440585

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "wonder will the new manager ask o gara on board in some way?"
It's possible that he might but he really belongs to a different era. Best to concentrate on blooding in new lads. They are the future of wexford football.
O Gara is okay as an impact sub for the shels but intercounty? don't think so. Not even for our lowly position. Let's keep it fresh

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 454 - 13/09/2022 20:12:12    2440589

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John Hegarty is a good appointment by Wexford. It has a ring of Liam Dunne off it, i.e. accept their status, accept the job is not an easy one, and rebuild.
But it is only a start.
Underage football in the county needs a huge revamp, overhaul and for more effort to go in from clubs who are passionate about the game. Hiding behind anonymity and blame the county board, is a smoke screen. The clubs have ultimate responsibility to provide top coaching to young players and while the county board have a role, the ultimate responsibility lies with the clubs to drag Wexford football back. We have played some real football clubs over the years and their teams were atrociously bad.
I moved to Wexford when the player coaching strategies, development squads, etc for underage were just kicking off, this is where Wexford football needs to start and hope in 5-10 years they can be competitive and first and foremost target underage Leinster success, or at very least be competitive in these grades.
People need to let bygones be bygones, and get together for the cause and think "where can our club do better".
As a Dublin hurling supporter, I know how it feels to be following the minority game in a county.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1340 - 14/09/2022 08:47:19    2440599

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "wonder will the new manager ask o gara on board in some way?"
No, but if Matty Forde makes himself available id have hm in.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 14/09/2022 10:18:08    2440608

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Given his age I'd imagine in a playing capacity is off the table anyway."
i did not mean as a player ,i meant in the backroom team

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2974 - 14/09/2022 10:50:52    2440613

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "John Hegarty is a good appointment by Wexford. It has a ring of Liam Dunne off it, i.e. accept their status, accept the job is not an easy one, and rebuild.
But it is only a start.
Underage football in the county needs a huge revamp, overhaul and for more effort to go in from clubs who are passionate about the game. Hiding behind anonymity and blame the county board, is a smoke screen. The clubs have ultimate responsibility to provide top coaching to young players and while the county board have a role, the ultimate responsibility lies with the clubs to drag Wexford football back. We have played some real football clubs over the years and their teams were atrociously bad.
I moved to Wexford when the player coaching strategies, development squads, etc for underage were just kicking off, this is where Wexford football needs to start and hope in 5-10 years they can be competitive and first and foremost target underage Leinster success, or at very least be competitive in these grades.
People need to let bygones be bygones, and get together for the cause and think "where can our club do better".
As a Dublin hurling supporter, I know how it feels to be following the minority game in a county."
Agreed it has to be built from the clubs up. Underage our club put the same emphasis on hurling and football. Our u11s had the same number of hurling and football training sessions and matches for example.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15742 - 14/09/2022 11:21:21    2440620

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "No, but if Matty Forde makes himself available id have hm in."
For sure. Hopefully Hegarty would be able to talk him into it. Presumably the 2 lads know each other really well.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15742 - 14/09/2022 11:22:13    2440621

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "i did not mean as a player ,i meant in the backroom team"
He would know what a proper top set up would look like from the inside.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15742 - 14/09/2022 11:22:50    2440622

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "John Hegarty is a good appointment by Wexford. It has a ring of Liam Dunne off it, i.e. accept their status, accept the job is not an easy one, and rebuild.
But it is only a start.
Underage football in the county needs a huge revamp, overhaul and for more effort to go in from clubs who are passionate about the game. Hiding behind anonymity and blame the county board, is a smoke screen. The clubs have ultimate responsibility to provide top coaching to young players and while the county board have a role, the ultimate responsibility lies with the clubs to drag Wexford football back. We have played some real football clubs over the years and their teams were atrociously bad.
I moved to Wexford when the player coaching strategies, development squads, etc for underage were just kicking off, this is where Wexford football needs to start and hope in 5-10 years they can be competitive and first and foremost target underage Leinster success, or at very least be competitive in these grades.
People need to let bygones be bygones, and get together for the cause and think "where can our club do better".
As a Dublin hurling supporter, I know how it feels to be following the minority game in a county."
Good post. Am a club official myself, and I see there was a survey sent out to clubs by Co. Board yesterday as part of the football review. They're asking clubs not only to suggest what more can be done at county level to promote and develop football, but also to think about what the clubs can do themselves.

While it's a fact that some clubs will always have a preference for hurling (just as others will always have a preference for football), it's also a fact that just about all clubs, including those with a preference for football, could do more too.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 14/09/2022 13:11:17    2440646

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