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We're Ready For An Inter County Transfer System.

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Don't be so crude.
I think these counties who you think I don't give a damn about would see an increase in playing numbers over the course of a generation, many of whom would remain with their county.
I guarantee you that there would be more hurlers in Leitrim if they knew there was a realistic chance of winning the biggest games growing up, albeit in a different Jersey, but like I said, many will stay with their home county.
Take a visit to your local soccer club next time you get a chance avd tell them they'll never be allowed play for anyone except wexford youths. You won't be long seeing a drop off.
Also, a smart transfer strategy could see weaker counties improve.Being able to spot a talent before your competitors do is a great skill in modern sports mangement."
You will need a fully professional and paid scouting system to spot talent in that way. And players will be paid under the counter like managers "possibly" are already. Even if Leitrim did spot the next Matty Forde it wouldn't be long before Dublin or Cork etc poached him. And how many transfers per year would be allowed under your new system? 2 like the soccer?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10204 - 06/08/2022 10:55:41    2436397

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It's not the same thing.
I'm laughing at the hypocrisy of it.
If you're in favour of a player switching club allegiance because you believe it's his choice and he's free to do what he wants, don't come crying when he decides to switch county,, because,, guess what,, its his choice and he's free to do what he wants,,,, right?
I get the feeling I'll probably have to explain this to you a few more times before this thread dries up."
You really are clueless to the transfer system that's ALREADY in place. What you're advocating is a free for all. Players have always been able to move clubs and declare for another county under certain strict criteria. Players switch clubs for various reasons (mainly because of where they currently live & work) and in case you're not aware, most club players are not of a county standard so it's not even a consideration if they will be picked for a county panel. I suggest you go read the offical GAA rule book and come back when you have a clue about what you're talking about.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 701 - 06/08/2022 15:13:10    2436436

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Don't be so crude.
I think these counties who you think I don't give a damn about would see an increase in playing numbers over the course of a generation, many of whom would remain with their county.
I guarantee you that there would be more hurlers in Leitrim if they knew there was a realistic chance of winning the biggest games growing up, albeit in a different Jersey, but like I said, many will stay with their home county.
Take a visit to your local soccer club next time you get a chance avd tell them they'll never be allowed play for anyone except wexford youths. You won't be long seeing a drop off.
Also, a smart transfer strategy could see weaker counties improve.Being able to spot a talent before your competitors do is a great skill in modern sports mangement."
More hurlers in Leitrim if there was a free for all transfer system where the best players play for some other county?! Why would coaches in Leitrim brake their boll*x coaching lads to have them poached by stronger counties? I take you don't know much about Leitrim hurling either. Our strongest team play league hurling in Sligo so that doesn't say much about the club scene in the county. But hey ho lets have our lads break their boll*x coaching young lads so they can play with Galway and the likes. You really haven't a clue about the GAA world in weaker counties. Typical attidute from those with the 'haves'.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 701 - 06/08/2022 15:33:57    2436446

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First up, Shane Walsh to Dublin
Free transfer

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8539 - 06/08/2022 17:16:57    2436458

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Replying To Square_B:  "More hurlers in Leitrim if there was a free for all transfer system where the best players play for some other county?! Why would coaches in Leitrim brake their boll*x coaching lads to have them poached by stronger counties? I take you don't know much about Leitrim hurling either. Our strongest team play league hurling in Sligo so that doesn't say much about the club scene in the county. But hey ho lets have our lads break their boll*x coaching young lads so they can play with Galway and the likes. You really haven't a clue about the GAA world in weaker counties. Typical attidute from those with the 'haves'."
Yeah, OK, so let's stick with a system that's doing so well that your strongest team don't even play in your county.
Club players are being poached by other clubs every day of the week and it doesn't stop people "breaking their boll*x" coaching kids.
Very good square b.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1561 - 07/08/2022 08:02:04    2436496

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Replying To Viking66:  "You will need a fully professional and paid scouting system to spot talent in that way. And players will be paid under the counter like managers "possibly" are already. Even if Leitrim did spot the next Matty Forde it wouldn't be long before Dublin or Cork etc poached him. And how many transfers per year would be allowed under your new system? 2 like the soccer?"
I don't think it would be as difficult as you're making out.
We don't have a scouting system now but I'll still bet that there are people involved in coaching whod be able to tell you about an emerging talent in another county that many others might not know about.
Backroom teams are so bloated with gurus nowadays that it'd be as good a position as any to have.
How many transfers per year? Sure look there'd have to be a process put in place, and yes there'd probably have to be a limit to the number of transfers a player or county can make. So what? That's no reason to just totally dismiss the idea.

And Matty Forde isn't a good example.
For starters Leitrims inability to offer their footballers anything other than the odd connacht upset against sligo means that while they aren't losing footballers to Dublin or Cork, they probably are losing many of them footballers to apathy.
Counties like Leitrim wouldn't be able to attract the best players but if they're smart enough, bringing in good players from other connacht counties, who aren't getting inter County football at home could help improve them.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1561 - 07/08/2022 08:20:04    2436497

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Yeah, OK, so let's stick with a system that's doing so well that your strongest team don't even play in your county.
Club players are being poached by other clubs every day of the week and it doesn't stop people "breaking their boll*x" coaching kids.
Very good square b."
Inter club transfers are still the exception not the norm. Probably more than 99% of players still play for the club they always played for. And that figure would rise to 99.99% for intercounty.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10204 - 07/08/2022 12:32:17    2436522

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I don't think it would be as difficult as you're making out.
We don't have a scouting system now but I'll still bet that there are people involved in coaching whod be able to tell you about an emerging talent in another county that many others might not know about.
Backroom teams are so bloated with gurus nowadays that it'd be as good a position as any to have.
How many transfers per year? Sure look there'd have to be a process put in place, and yes there'd probably have to be a limit to the number of transfers a player or county can make. So what? That's no reason to just totally dismiss the idea.

And Matty Forde isn't a good example.
For starters Leitrims inability to offer their footballers anything other than the odd connacht upset against sligo means that while they aren't losing footballers to Dublin or Cork, they probably are losing many of them footballers to apathy.
Counties like Leitrim wouldn't be able to attract the best players but if they're smart enough, bringing in good players from other connacht counties, who aren't getting inter County football at home could help improve them."
Very hard to see that swapping good top intercounty type players for good club players who can't even make Mayo or Galways extended panel would improve Leitrim tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10204 - 07/08/2022 12:47:42    2436524

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Replying To Viking66:  "Inter club transfers are still the exception not the norm. Probably more than 99% of players still play for the club they always played for. And that figure would rise to 99.99% for intercounty."
Well yer mans assertion that Leitrims best club have to leave Leitrim is hardly a ringing endorsement of tve current system, even if that's how he intended it to be.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1561 - 07/08/2022 14:35:56    2436536

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Replying To Viking66:  "Very hard to see that swapping good top intercounty type players for good club players who can't even make Mayo or Galways extended panel would improve Leitrim tbh."
It's not hard at all to see how players not making the cut for galways or mayos squad could help improve Leitrim, even if its not very flattering to Leitrim.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1561 - 07/08/2022 14:37:39    2436537

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It's not hard at all to see how players not making the cut for galways or mayos squad could help improve Leitrim, even if its not very flattering to Leitrim."
But at what cost to Leitrim club football. Personally at a Roscommon supporter I'd have no interest in going to a game if our team way made up of blow ins. It's a very proud day for clubs to be represented on a county panel.
Why would players push themselves to their limits if they know that someone not good enough for a Dublin or Kerry could waltz in and take their place.

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 368 - 07/08/2022 15:31:44    2436541

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I don't think it would be as difficult as you're making out.
We don't have a scouting system now but I'll still bet that there are people involved in coaching whod be able to tell you about an emerging talent in another county that many others might not know about.
Backroom teams are so bloated with gurus nowadays that it'd be as good a position as any to have.
How many transfers per year? Sure look there'd have to be a process put in place, and yes there'd probably have to be a limit to the number of transfers a player or county can make. So what? That's no reason to just totally dismiss the idea.

And Matty Forde isn't a good example.
For starters Leitrims inability to offer their footballers anything other than the odd connacht upset against sligo means that while they aren't losing footballers to Dublin or Cork, they probably are losing many of them footballers to apathy.
Counties like Leitrim wouldn't be able to attract the best players but if they're smart enough, bringing in good players from other connacht counties, who aren't getting inter County football at home could help improve them."
Oh but according to you our best players will play elsewhere while we import other players not good enough for their own county. Right I see....

You're a typical 'big county' fellow talking through your backside. You haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 701 - 07/08/2022 15:40:41    2436543

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It's not hard at all to see how players not making the cut for galways or mayos squad could help improve Leitrim, even if its not very flattering to Leitrim."
Yes and what of the Leitrim lads who have dreamed of playing for Leitrim since they were chaps whose places they would be taking?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10204 - 07/08/2022 15:54:27    2436546

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Replying To Square_B:  "Oh but according to you our best players will play elsewhere while we import other players not good enough for their own county. Right I see....

You're a typical 'big county' fellow talking through your backside. You haven't a clue what you're talking about."
Spot on. A big county man looking to plunder the smaller counties so his own county might actually start winning the titles they should be winning anyway with their population.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10204 - 07/08/2022 17:06:45    2436555

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Replying To reffingmad:  "But at what cost to Leitrim club football. Personally at a Roscommon supporter I'd have no interest in going to a game if our team way made up of blow ins. It's a very proud day for clubs to be represented on a county panel.
Why would players push themselves to their limits if they know that someone not good enough for a Dublin or Kerry could waltz in and take their place."
there is a Kerry man playing with you

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 289 - 07/08/2022 19:19:43    2436566

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Replying To Square_B:  "Oh but according to you our best players will play elsewhere while we import other players not good enough for their own county. Right I see....

You're a typical 'big county' fellow talking through your backside. You haven't a clue what you're talking about."
He's well noted for that. I marked his particular card a long time ago.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1811 - 07/08/2022 19:27:07    2436569

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "there is a Kerry man playing with you"
There actually isn't. Born and bred in Roscommon.

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 368 - 07/08/2022 21:13:54    2436580

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "there is a Kerry man playing with you"
Son of Ros parents who are now back home.
He's living here and plays for his ancestral home club Éire Óg.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1128 - 07/08/2022 21:33:39    2436586

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "He's well noted for that. I marked his particular card a long time ago."
You 'marked his particular card'? An anonymous poster dispenses justice to another anonymous poster in a forum with plenty of posters using more than one username from behind their mighty keyboard. You need to get out more.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7223 - 07/08/2022 21:35:40    2436587

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Gaelic games for me primarily is abut community and love of place. It's a major vehicle for community cohesion. With the decline in organised religion and the decline in labour-intensive farming, it's one of the few things left that breathes life into communities. If you think the GAA is primarily about counties wining trophies, you don't understand much about the GAA.

The appeal of the GAA is that it always has been "our best against your best". And many of those adult players out on the pitch will have been nurtured and trained by unseen and unsung volunteers form they were age 5. We all pay money to our clubs, and / or we give of our time. We all have a stake in their successes.

The day that my club or county has to win by turning its back on its grassroots and by importing outsiders is the day I stop caring about the GAA. In fact, I'd be out leading a mass boycott of games disfigured by such soulless mercenaries.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 213 - 07/08/2022 21:57:38    2436588

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