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We're Ready For An Inter County Transfer System.

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It struck me reading the Shane Walsh thread that GAA people are finally beginning to open up to the idea a transfer system for players.
Pretty much all of the arguments used to endorse his move to kilmacaud could also apply to a move to the dubs if he so desired. (I personally think he should switch counties)
If, say, a roscommon man living and working in Dublin decided to transfer why should we have the right to criticise him? You don't even have to be living there either imo. If a player feels he has a better chance of success with a nearby county, good luck to him,its his choice.
Time to get things rolling imo.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1330 - 01/08/2022 10:19:37    2435691

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Any inter-county transfer system that would favour the stronger counties or large urban populated centres wouldn't wash with me. I doubt anyone in Galway would want to loose one of their best players to the Dublin county team. Obviously only 15 lads can play but I would argue that a county transfer system should only favour Division 3 & 4 teams with the view to improving standards for those teams.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 437 - 01/08/2022 11:21:06    2435699

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Replying To Square_B:  "Any inter-county transfer system that would favour the stronger counties or large urban populated centres wouldn't wash with me. I doubt anyone in Galway would want to loose one of their best players to the Dublin county team. Obviously only 15 lads can play but I would argue that a county transfer system should only favour Division 3 & 4 teams with the view to improving standards for those teams."
Why wouldn't it wash with you?
This message board is full of galway posters endorsing Walshes transfer.
A small rural club is after losing its best player to one of the wealthiest, largest clubs in Ireland, and you're fine with that.
Why should it be different for counties?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1330 - 01/08/2022 11:34:40    2435702

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It struck me reading the Shane Walsh thread that GAA people are finally beginning to open up to the idea a transfer system for players.
Pretty much all of the arguments used to endorse his move to kilmacaud could also apply to a move to the dubs if he so desired. (I personally think he should switch counties)
If, say, a roscommon man living and working in Dublin decided to transfer why should we have the right to criticise him? You don't even have to be living there either imo. If a player feels he has a better chance of success with a nearby county, good luck to him,its his choice.
Time to get things rolling imo."
JUST STOP

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 636 - 01/08/2022 12:40:08    2435714

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It struck me reading the Shane Walsh thread that GAA people are finally beginning to open up to the idea a transfer system for players.
Pretty much all of the arguments used to endorse his move to kilmacaud could also apply to a move to the dubs if he so desired. (I personally think he should switch counties)
If, say, a roscommon man living and working in Dublin decided to transfer why should we have the right to criticise him? You don't even have to be living there either imo. If a player feels he has a better chance of success with a nearby county, good luck to him,its his choice.
Time to get things rolling imo."
It's one thing if a Roscommon man living in Dublin (to use your example) decides to transfer to a club in Dublin. No issue with that, and it happens all the time. Have seen the same thing happen in reverse here in Wexford this year, with Eoghan O'Gara (winner of 7 All-Irelands with Dublin, but living in Wexford in recent years) transferring to a club here.

But it's another thing altogether to suggest that any player should be able to transfer to any club or any county where he feels he'd have a better chance of success. That's basically the "you should be able to play wherever you want" argument that you sometimes hear from ill-informed parents at underage level when they don't like their own local club for whatever reason.

All I ever say to anybody making that argument is be very careful what you wish for. If it really was the case that you could play wherever you want, then there's absolutely no guarantee that anybody would ever choose to play (or stay) with your own club or county.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1011 - 01/08/2022 12:46:28    2435715

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "It's one thing if a Roscommon man living in Dublin (to use your example) decides to transfer to a club in Dublin. No issue with that, and it happens all the time. Have seen the same thing happen in reverse here in Wexford this year, with Eoghan O'Gara (winner of 7 All-Irelands with Dublin, but living in Wexford in recent years) transferring to a club here.

But it's another thing altogether to suggest that any player should be able to transfer to any club or any county where he feels he'd have a better chance of success. That's basically the "you should be able to play wherever you want" argument that you sometimes hear from ill-informed parents at underage level when they don't like their own local club for whatever reason.

All I ever say to anybody making that argument is be very careful what you wish for. If it really was the case that you could play wherever you want, then there's absolutely no guarantee that anybody would ever choose to play (or stay) with your own club or county."
But what's the difference? Its a players choice, his prerogative surely.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1330 - 01/08/2022 13:24:11    2435723

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Why wouldn't it wash with you?
This message board is full of galway posters endorsing Walshes transfer.
A small rural club is after losing its best player to one of the wealthiest, largest clubs in Ireland, and you're fine with that.
Why should it be different for counties?"
Players move clubs all the time for numerous reasons mainly employment... unless you want county football to even become more elite then inter county transfers is a bad idea unless it's concentrated on improving standards. This isnt the Premiership.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 437 - 01/08/2022 13:26:04    2435725

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Look at some of the successful inter county transfers such as the great Seanie Johnston from Cavan to Kildare and the strokes that were pulled to get him in the door, it was disgraceful stuff.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1726 - 01/08/2022 14:02:23    2435735

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It struck me reading the Shane Walsh thread that GAA people are finally beginning to open up to the idea a transfer system for players.
Pretty much all of the arguments used to endorse his move to kilmacaud could also apply to a move to the dubs if he so desired. (I personally think he should switch counties)
If, say, a roscommon man living and working in Dublin decided to transfer why should we have the right to criticise him? You don't even have to be living there either imo. If a player feels he has a better chance of success with a nearby county, good luck to him,its his choice.
Time to get things rolling imo."
You can say goodbye to the GAA if that ever happens,will kill off the smaller clubs and counties.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 629 - 01/08/2022 14:40:31    2435742

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What makes our sport is the pride first in playing for your club and then playing for your county. Go ahead with this and you will have a dramatic watering down of the determination, commitment and competitiveness that we all enjoy now in our games. Money will drive where players will play just like we are seeing with the mercenary managers already. If that is what you want then lets go fully professional and not the old typical Irish nodded wink wink stuff that is at play now. Though that will be a sad day and the same people will be saying remember the days.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2273 - 01/08/2022 14:59:31    2435747

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Replying To Bon:  "Look at some of the successful inter county transfers such as the great Seanie Johnston from Cavan to Kildare and the strokes that were pulled to get him in the door, it was disgraceful stuff."
For Kildare to try and take Cavans strongest hurler was shocking stuff.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1482 - 01/08/2022 15:38:50    2435760

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It struck me reading the Shane Walsh thread that GAA people are finally beginning to open up to the idea a transfer system for players.
Pretty much all of the arguments used to endorse his move to kilmacaud could also apply to a move to the dubs if he so desired. (I personally think he should switch counties)
If, say, a roscommon man living and working in Dublin decided to transfer why should we have the right to criticise him? You don't even have to be living there either imo. If a player feels he has a better chance of success with a nearby county, good luck to him,its his choice.
Time to get things rolling imo."
What a terrible idea. The richer/more successful counties would become even better.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5713 - 01/08/2022 15:49:26    2435764

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It struck me reading the Shane Walsh thread that GAA people are finally beginning to open up to the idea a transfer system for players.
Pretty much all of the arguments used to endorse his move to kilmacaud could also apply to a move to the dubs if he so desired. (I personally think he should switch counties)
If, say, a roscommon man living and working in Dublin decided to transfer why should we have the right to criticise him? You don't even have to be living there either imo. If a player feels he has a better chance of success with a nearby county, good luck to him,its his choice.
Time to get things rolling imo."
They are open to club transfer when it makes sense for the player to keep playing and training when they work and travelling home for county training during the week is a not feasible.I would assume that Kilmacud Crokes training would be a very high standard so that would satisfy the Galway County set up.If Shane Walsh said he was transferring to play for Dublin there would be much more of a backlash.
If intercounty transfers started happening then it would become like the Premiership where the wealthiest counties would buy All Irelands like Man City ,Chelsea, and other teams have done.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 40 - 01/08/2022 16:45:24    2435779

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If you want to see what allegiance to your team is take a look at Big Dan. Turned out yesterday for 30 years as a senior player at 45 years old and still with the scoring touch. He is nothing thinking what can my club do for me but what can I do for my club. Known for getting out of his truck when passing a school going into the play ground with hurley and playing with the kids. His brother Maurice and Iarlath Daly injured and he answers the bell. Incidentally Maurice a scoring machine with 44 goals and 611 points. Most of this during the dominance of Ballygunner. 4-13 in one game. Should never have been dropped from the county and at 31 still has something to offer still.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2273 - 01/08/2022 17:15:08    2435784

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Brutal idea. Should be avoided at all costs.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1153 - 01/08/2022 17:29:31    2435786

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I guess the larger scale question is, where do we want to see the GAA in 50 - 100 years time? If course most of us will be dead by then, but do we want to see our games as a global sport, played or followed by a global audience? Or do we want it to stay in Ireland and a few expat burrows across the world? Most American sports began at college level, non paid but developed into national then global sports. It's a tough one. When you see the state of soccer with the greed and the sports washing it would pain me to see the GAA in anyway resembling that. But then do we want to be seen as a backwards, 'Irish only' game that can't move with the times? Maybe the best place to be is somewhere in between.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2323 - 01/08/2022 17:49:10    2435789

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Replying To Viking66:  "What a terrible idea. The richer/more successful counties would become even better."
not a hope

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1540 - 01/08/2022 18:02:57    2435791

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Replying To Canuck:  "What makes our sport is the pride first in playing for your club and then playing for your county. Go ahead with this and you will have a dramatic watering down of the determination, commitment and competitiveness that we all enjoy now in our games. Money will drive where players will play just like we are seeing with the mercenary managers already. If that is what you want then lets go fully professional and not the old typical Irish nodded wink wink stuff that is at play now. Though that will be a sad day and the same people will be saying remember the days."
Pride wears very thin though if your winning nothing .

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1726 - 01/08/2022 18:03:05    2435792

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Replying To Galway9801:  "It struck me reading the Shane Walsh thread that GAA people are finally beginning to open up to the idea a transfer system for players.
Pretty much all of the arguments used to endorse his move to kilmacaud could also apply to a move to the dubs if he so desired. (I personally think he should switch counties)
If, say, a roscommon man living and working in Dublin decided to transfer why should we have the right to criticise him? You don't even have to be living there either imo. If a player feels he has a better chance of success with a nearby county, good luck to him,its his choice.
Time to get things rolling imo."
You play for where you're from.
That's the essence of the GAA and what makes it so special.
The fact that you don't seem to get that is astonishing.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 954 - 01/08/2022 18:17:37    2435795

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Replying To Viking66:  "What a terrible idea. The richer/more successful counties would become even better."
But why is it fine for clubs but not for counties? Pretty much all of the reasons set out to justify his transfer to crokes (choice, travel, career, he's not beholden to anyone etc) could also be used to justify an intercounty transfer.
For the record in not the least bit opposed to his transfer but we have to be consistent here.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1330 - 01/08/2022 18:47:10    2435802

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