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Shane Walsh Transfer

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Several hurlers switched to Dublin who were not born in Dublin or play underage for Dublin ie Niall Corcoran . Is there different rules in football ? any link to these separate rules"
https://www.gaa.ie/the-gaa/rules-regulations/transfers-faq

The full rules are in the official GAA rule book. In short, it's quite restricted and normally is based on having parents born or having your permanent address in the county you want to transfer to.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1072 - 05/08/2022 16:38:44    2436358

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Replying To gerry1414:  "As already posted,to declare for Dublin County football team you must be born in Dublin or play under age football in Dublin,fact. Cant believe how fellas make up things."
The Quinn guy from Na Fianna was from Tyrone and never played under age football in Dublin… How come he could play for Dublin…?

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3259 - 05/08/2022 18:14:12    2436366

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Shane Walsh is studying for a BA in Physical Education, did a year in Portobello Institute, on his Linkedin. Grand if you can do a lot of the studies online or a blended option, home mainly then some trips to Dublin for some lectures, but maybe he wants to go the classroom route and live in Dublin. Online is not for everyone, some lecturers are too remote and hard to contact but in classroom they can be more helpful and students help each other out. He's not contracted to play for anyone. The spiel from his club chairman was ridiculous. Let Shane Walsh decide what Shane Walsh wants to do with his life. Plenty of players have played for clubs or counties that aren't where they're from and will continue to do so. A story about nothing."
Totally agree that this is a story about nothing.

crafty (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 05/08/2022 19:14:37    2436372

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Replying To gerry1414:  "Cant declare for Dublin. Dont be making things up."
Any player that's able to play club football or hurling in that county can declare for that county. If Shane Walsh s transfer to Kilmacud is successful he can play for Dublin. I doubt he would but by the rules he can.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 05/08/2022 20:34:08    2436378

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Replying To anotheralias:  "A couple of points.
Its been several years since colleges have really been a serious option in club championships. UCG/NUIG are several years gone from Galway champ . GMIT never played in it. I don't see UCD in this years Dublin draw. So in honesty I dont know what point you are trying to make .
My english not as good as yours so I had to look up the definition of hyberbole...exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
I dont think its any way an exaggeration that the GAA could be a laughing stock.. I have on many occasions witnessed people laughing about how silly the GAA handle certain issues... as a GAA person I don't like it ..but it happens... and I fear this will be another scenario that will force me to listen to this type of response."
I've met a fair few buckos like that alright. Know-nothing bigots. The average Unionist up North, nd the average English person, in my repeated experience, have much more respect for the GAA than does the Irish anti-GAA cultural cringer.

Wiki's definition of "cultural cringe" is spot-on too: "Cultural cringe, in cultural studies and social anthropology, is an internalised inferiority complex that causes people in a country to dismiss their own culture as inferior to the cultures of other countries."

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 283 - 05/08/2022 20:39:38    2436379

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Replying To gerry1414:  "As already posted,to declare for Dublin County football team you must be born in Dublin or play under age football in Dublin,fact. Cant believe how fellas make up things."
You are wrong. Did you ever hear of a Kerryman called Brian Murphy? He was a sub keeper to Cluxton in 02.He won an all ireland minor medal with Kerry and moved to Dublin and played senior with Dublin. Dublin has the same rules as every other county. Did you ever hear of Larry Tompkins Shea Fahey Karl Ó Dwyer Pádraig Brogan Garvan Ware Rory Gallagher Seanie Johnston Martin Carney Stephen Kineavy Owen Gallagher. All played football for counties they were nt born in.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 05/08/2022 20:59:51    2436381

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Replying To gerry1414:  "As already posted,to declare for Dublin County football team you must be born in Dublin or play under age football in Dublin,fact. Cant believe how fellas make up things."
You're wrong.

Niall Corcoran, Mossy O'Brien, Ryan O'Dwyer and Darragh O'Connell from Galway, Limerick, Tipperary and Kerry have all hurled for Dublin in the recent past.

Loads of Dublin born players have played for other counties too over the years too.

Happens all over, James Loughrey from Antrim won Sam with Cork in 2010. Numerous other examples over the years. Tompkins also for Cork in the 80s was originally from Kildare. Billy Sheehan from Kerry played for Laois. Karl O'Dwyer from Kerry played for Kildare.

If you're living in another county and play for a club in that county you are then eligible to represent that county.

You're also in for a massive shock if you ever look at where the vast majority of players in the Dublin squads that won all the pre-1960s All-Irelands were born!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13780 - 05/08/2022 21:55:38    2436382

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Several hurlers switched to Dublin who were not born in Dublin or play underage for Dublin ie Niall Corcoran . Is there different rules in football ? any link to these separate rules"
There isn't.

From the 50s on there was an attempt in Dublin to only select 'native players' by the county board in an attempt to spread the game in the city and county but there is no rule on it.

As recently as 2013 there was a lad, his name escapes me unfortunately, playing with Na Fianna who got a few league and O'Byrne Cup runs who was from Tyrone originally.

There was a subkeeper as well from Kerry, played with Syls I think, late 90s/early 00s. Apologies again as I can't think of his name.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13780 - 05/08/2022 21:59:44    2436383

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Replying To gerry1414:  "As already posted,to declare for Dublin County football team you must be born in Dublin or play under age football in Dublin,fact. Cant believe how fellas make up things."
Incorrect. That is not the rule.
The Dublin football team generally don't take in outsiders but they could if they wished.

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1291 - 06/08/2022 10:13:39    2436389

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Replying To Greengrass:  "As far as I know students were allowed to play county championship football with the colleges in which they were studying. They were also allowed at the same time play county championship with their own clubs. Niall McNamee and Shane Lennon did that in 2006 with UCD. UCD won the championship in Dublin that year and Rhode won the championship in Offaly. UCD and Rhode played each other in that year's Leinster club semi final which Rhode won by a point. Niall McNamee played for Rhode against UCD that day. As for the GAA " becoming a total laughing stock in society" would you catch yourself on. Hyperbole at it's finest."
I mentioned the UCD scenario early in this debate and got savaged by a Dublin poster...the gist ot being 'who was I to tell Shane Walsh what to do' very obvious a Crokes man disparity wanting to him to play for them.
I can understand Shane Walsh wanting to make life easier for himself while at the same time playing a high standard of football but the GAA in it's wisdom also obviously see the city superclubs exploiting the residency rules to get students on board for a few years when in fact those students are merely transitioning through those counties.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1081 - 06/08/2022 11:16:22    2436404

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "You are wrong. Did you ever hear of a Kerryman called Brian Murphy? He was a sub keeper to Cluxton in 02.He won an all ireland minor medal with Kerry and moved to Dublin and played senior with Dublin. Dublin has the same rules as every other county. Did you ever hear of Larry Tompkins Shea Fahey Karl Ó Dwyer Pádraig Brogan Garvan Ware Rory Gallagher Seanie Johnston Martin Carney Stephen Kineavy Owen Gallagher. All played football for counties they were nt born in."
Dont remember Larry playing for Dublin. Where are you going with that.

gerry1414 (Dublin) - Posts: 53 - 06/08/2022 11:55:40    2436410

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Replying To galwayman2:  "Incorrect. That is not the rule.
The Dublin football team generally don't take in outsiders but they could if they wished."
They wouldn't want Shane Walsh would they.!

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2308 - 06/08/2022 11:59:37    2436411

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Replying To MesAmis:  "There isn't.

From the 50s on there was an attempt in Dublin to only select 'native players' by the county board in an attempt to spread the game in the city and county but there is no rule on it.

As recently as 2013 there was a lad, his name escapes me unfortunately, playing with Na Fianna who got a few league and O'Byrne Cup runs who was from Tyrone originally.

There was a subkeeper as well from Kerry, played with Syls I think, late 90s/early 00s. Apologies again as I can't think of his name."
Yes Mesamis Brian Murphy was the Kerry lad who won a minor all ireland for Kerry in 94.Was sub Goalie to Cluxton for a year or two and did play one championship game when Cluxton was missing.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 06/08/2022 12:57:53    2436415

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Replying To gerry1414:  "Dont remember Larry playing for Dublin. Where are you going with that."
Larry played for Cork. He was born in Wicklow and reared in Kildare. Dublin have the same rules as every other county. There was a Roscommon lad that played football for Dublin as a sub in 01 v Kerry. Think Ó Donoghue was his name. The great Dublin full back Seán Doherty was a Wicklow man. Many Kerrymen won all Irelands with Dublin before the 60s.The facts are any player that is living in Dublin whether they re from Russia or Galway can play for Dublin. Now the Dublin management might not pick them but cest lá vie.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 06/08/2022 13:02:27    2436417

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yes Mesamis Brian Murphy was the Kerry lad who won a minor all ireland for Kerry in 94.Was sub Goalie to Cluxton for a year or two and did play one championship game when Cluxton was missing."
Thanks Mick, his name escaped me last night. He played for Naomh Barróg in Kilbarrack. He came on when Cluxton was sent off against Armagh in 2003 in the qualifiers.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13780 - 06/08/2022 13:23:52    2436423

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Thanks Mick, his name escaped me last night. He played for Naomh Barróg in Kilbarrack. He came on when Cluxton was sent off against Armagh in 2003 in the qualifiers."
Oh that' s right Mesamis. I remember now. I did nt know what club he played with. Thanks.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 06/08/2022 14:16:58    2436427

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "You are wrong. Did you ever hear of a Kerryman called Brian Murphy? He was a sub keeper to Cluxton in 02.He won an all ireland minor medal with Kerry and moved to Dublin and played senior with Dublin. Dublin has the same rules as every other county. Did you ever hear of Larry Tompkins Shea Fahey Karl Ó Dwyer Pádraig Brogan Garvan Ware Rory Gallagher Seanie Johnston Martin Carney Stephen Kineavy Owen Gallagher. All played football for counties they were nt born in."
And Mick, don't forget the great Sean Lowry. Now, there was a complete footballer.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2118 - 06/08/2022 14:33:48    2436432

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "And Mick, don't forget the great Sean Lowry. Now, there was a complete footballer."
Yeah Forever forgot Sean Lowry. Sean played for Mayo in 85 semi final v Dublin after winning all ireland medals for Offaly in 72 and 82.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 06/08/2022 15:31:24    2436444

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yeah Forever forgot Sean Lowry. Sean played for Mayo in 85 semi final v Dublin after winning all ireland medals for Offaly in 72 and 82."
He won one also in 1971 as a member of the panel.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2118 - 06/08/2022 17:52:21    2436463

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "He won one also in 1971 as a member of the panel."
Oh very good. I did nt know that. Thanks Forever. A great gaa family with brothers Mick and Brendan and Brendans son is nt a bad golfer either.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3851 - 06/08/2022 18:31:23    2436467

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