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Shane Walsh Transfer

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Best of luck to Shane with any choice or decision. The Dublin club move would be great.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1584 - 31/07/2022 12:44:40    2435585

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If this transfer goes ahead, what's to stop Shane throwing his lot in with the Dublin footballers if he feels there's a greater chance of winning an AI with them than with Galway?

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2761 - 31/07/2022 13:01:47    2435589

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Replying To anotheralias:  "You want to brush up on your knowlege of Galway club football.. Its 3 years since corofin won a county title and their domination was founded on a total domination of underage that has long since dwindled. Still a great club and could win 2 or 4 of the next 10, but its goimg to be a lot more open and i expect moycullem mountbellew salthill and claregalway all to win at least 1 of the next 10 with strong possibilities for tuam annaghdown and oranmore (currently intermediate but watch out for them)"
And corofin is not an amalgamated club . 1 single parish...same as mountbellew moylough, kilkerrin clonbern, monivea abbeyknockmoy and several others that are 1 single parish made up of 2 half parishes but not necessarily reflected by a double barelled name. If you go back far enough in history there were multiple teams in these parishes before consolidaing into a parish team e.g. belclare and corofin but i dont consider this as an amalgamatiom.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 31/07/2022 13:05:48    2435590

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We've had this suitation in Leitrim many times the most notable when Declan Darcy transferred to play football in his home county. People weren't happy but there wasn't a thing anyone could do. Of course this case is a little bit different but I'm not sure why GAA clubs think they have a "hold" on players; no one should be obliged to play for your home club if it doesn't suit your current circumstances. I'd rather see a lad play with a club he's happy at then not play at all. But of course there will be some chairmen with the dinosaur attidute if he doesn't play for us, he'll play for no one else. It's an amateur sport for god sake.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 401 - 31/07/2022 14:20:30    2435595

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Club now says they will object. I don't like that a player of his calibre is transferring from a rural club to a massive one like Crokes because I think we all know he wasn't just enticed by convenience and playing senior football however he is a person and not the property of anyone. Are they seriously going to force him to line out for them?

Does he have to play with a club to be eligible to play for Galway ? I'm assuming so but I'm not sure.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1574 - 31/07/2022 14:25:43    2435596

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Replying To tommy k:  "If this transfer goes ahead, what's to stop Shane throwing his lot in with the Dublin footballers if he feels there's a greater chance of winning an AI with them than with Galway?"
Nothing. It'd be very interesting if he did, but I highly doubt it. Generally, it doesn't happen that way but cases do exist; Tompkins and Fahy in Cork in the 1980s being the most high profile ones.

In hurling it has happened more often with quite a few lads, Maurice O'Brien (Limerick), Ryan O'Dwyer (Tipp), Niall Corcoran (Galway), Jim Lyng (Kilkenny) to name but a few, all having donned the sky blue and navy of Dublin. And no controversy at all about it. So, if it can happen in hurling, why not in football?

I suppose the more the abuse and opposition Walsh gets in the Galway for wanting to switch clubs, the more the reasons he may be given for wanting to switch counties, too.

Best of luck to him in whatever HE decides to do. It's HIS life choice.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1275 - 31/07/2022 14:40:00    2435600

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Replying To tommy k:  "If this transfer goes ahead, what's to stop Shane throwing his lot in with the Dublin footballers if he feels there's a greater chance of winning an AI with them than with Galway?"
Nothing to stop him. But i cant see it happening . Although if we ostracise him for this sensible decision then the county switch could be a self fulfilling prophecy.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 31/07/2022 14:52:55    2435603

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Best of luck to Shane Walsh wherever he plays. As long as it's LEGAL according to the rules I can't really fault him or begrudge him and I hope his club doesn't block him or hinder him in any way.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1557 - 31/07/2022 15:37:50    2435610

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Declan Darcy born in Dublin played for Leitrim under parent rule. Won Connaught u-21 and senior in '94. Later he transferred to Dublin. I'm sure he wouldn't trade his 2 Connaught medals for anything.. You have to admire that sort of loyalty..

AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 65 - 31/07/2022 15:45:27    2435614

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Replying To tommy k:  "If this transfer goes ahead, what's to stop Shane throwing his lot in with the Dublin footballers if he feels there's a greater chance of winning an AI with them than with Galway?"
let players make their own decisions

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1584 - 31/07/2022 15:46:39    2435616

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If crokes is so bloated with players it's a wonder some of their fringe players don't transfer to other clubs to get more football.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1273 - 31/07/2022 16:03:47    2435617

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Firstly, it's a free country and a player should be able to play for the club that (1) he grew up in, or (b) where he lives. I have a bigger problem with the parent rule.

Secondly, what is the incentive in Galway when Corofinwill won't every 9 out of 10 county championships. Walsh won't transfer to them so will never win a senior club in Galway. His club chairman would be better take his gripes to his own county board. He should be putting forward a county championship in the Kerry format so his clubs best players can still play for his club and also have a shot at a senior county title. Small minded objections to his own players right to freedom is not the way to help his own club, which he as the chairman should be focused on.
As for Corofins dominance in Galway, it is an amalgamated club - which has since had huge population increase and should now be split again.

Thirdly, he is not joining the local club in Dublin - he is joining a superclub for an easy shot at a county title and a good shot at an all Ireland club. This kind of "ring chasing" shouldn't be allowed. If Dublin county board are happy to have their club championship turned into a farce (which they are, as this has been going on a long time), the Leinster Council and/or central council shouldn't allow a club with more than 2 non native players enter their championships."
Corofin GAA club came into existence on Easter Sunday 1925. It is one parish and its borders have not changed in any way. Since the early 90s Corofin has started to dominate Galway club football and this completely untrue story that it is an amalgamated club has started going around. Between 1925 and 1990 Corofin won 3 Seniot titles, 1932, 1946 and 1977. Until recent times nobody ever complained about the size of Corofin. Corofin is a large but totally rural area and clubs like Tuam, Salthill, Moycullen, Ballinasloe and even Mountbellew/Moylough have far bigger populations. Castlebar for example has a population many times the size of Corofin. Should it be split in two? The same rubbish was being talked about Dublin in recent times. Following your argument surely Kerry should be split in two. If you leave out Dublin they have won more titles than all the other counties put together. You dont know anything about Corofin so stick to your own club in Mayo. Corofin is successful because because they have good well coached players.

crafty (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 31/07/2022 16:11:51    2435619

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Replying To AnCrúiscínLán:  "Declan Darcy born in Dublin played for Leitrim under parent rule. Won Connaught u-21 and senior in '94. Later he transferred to Dublin. I'm sure he wouldn't trade his 2 Connaught medals for anything.. You have to admire that sort of loyalty.."
What loyalty?

Is that not the opposite of loyalty?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4697 - 31/07/2022 16:18:35    2435621

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Replying To AnCrúiscínLán:  "Declan Darcy born in Dublin played for Leitrim under parent rule. Won Connaught u-21 and senior in '94. Later he transferred to Dublin. I'm sure he wouldn't trade his 2 Connaught medals for anything.. You have to admire that sort of loyalty.."
I'd say Darcy would trade his 2 Connacht medals for an All Ireland medal with Dublin.

crafty (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 31/07/2022 16:53:56    2435626

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Replying To cavanman47:  "What loyalty?

Is that not the opposite of loyalty?"
Declan Darcy's dad was a staunch Leitrim man - often coached the Dublin based players in the Phoenix park..No centres of excellence then..

Declan obviously had a great love for Leitrim and elected to play for them - no guarantee of medals.. It was a super achievement for the County winning Connaught in '94. And they went on to play Dublin in semi - an unbelievable day for all Leitrim folk.

He had given huge service to Leitrim and obviously, with commitments, he decided to declare for Dublin.

AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 65 - 31/07/2022 17:24:01    2435628

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There have been a few comments that Corofin is not amalgamation. I was surprised to read this.
Please refer to this to see it is an amalgamation;
https://www.corofingaa.ie/history

ref (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 31/07/2022 18:01:48    2435630

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Replying To crafty:  "Corofin GAA club came into existence on Easter Sunday 1925. It is one parish and its borders have not changed in any way. Since the early 90s Corofin has started to dominate Galway club football and this completely untrue story that it is an amalgamated club has started going around. Between 1925 and 1990 Corofin won 3 Seniot titles, 1932, 1946 and 1977. Until recent times nobody ever complained about the size of Corofin. Corofin is a large but totally rural area and clubs like Tuam, Salthill, Moycullen, Ballinasloe and even Mountbellew/Moylough have far bigger populations. Castlebar for example has a population many times the size of Corofin. Should it be split in two? The same rubbish was being talked about Dublin in recent times. Following your argument surely Kerry should be split in two. If you leave out Dublin they have won more titles than all the other counties put together. You dont know anything about Corofin so stick to your own club in Mayo. Corofin is successful because because they have good well coached players."
Agreed fully. Except for statement that MBMM has bigger population. Corofin is between 2x and 3x the population of MBMM and i am 100% certain of that.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 31/07/2022 18:10:22    2435631

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Replying To ref:  "There have been a few comments that Corofin is not amalgamation. I was surprised to read this.
Please refer to this to see it is an amalgamation;
https://www.corofingaa.ie/history"
If you go back as far as 1925 most clubs today would be regarded as amalgamations. In fact in 1925 there were 3 clubs in the parish Corofin, Belclare and Cummer. Very small areas had teams in those days and very often within the confines of one parish as in the case of Corofin. Begrudgery is at the root of all this talk about Corofin. Corofin has been a club for almost 100 years and for most of that time nobody had anything to say about the club. Because of their success Corofin became a hated club in Galway and just like Dublin there was a lot of talk of it being unfair and they should be split up etc etc

crafty (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 31/07/2022 18:45:18    2435637

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Replying To ref:  "There have been a few comments that Corofin is not amalgamation. I was surprised to read this.
Please refer to this to see it is an amalgamation;
https://www.corofingaa.ie/history"
By that definition every team in the country is an amalgamation of the various villages and parish league / village teams that make it up. Yes Belclare and corofin "amalgamated" a 100 or so years ago ...but it is ONE parish.. im not one to defend corofin normally but we are not l
suggesting that any other PARISH to split in 2 so lets not do it to corofin.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 31/07/2022 18:51:44    2435639

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Replying To ref:  "There have been a few comments that Corofin is not amalgamation. I was surprised to read this.
Please refer to this to see it is an amalgamation;
https://www.corofingaa.ie/history"
A good read ref, thanks.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1275 - 31/07/2022 19:03:50    2435640

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