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Shane Walsh Transfer

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Replying To MillerX:  "Is he studying in UCD?
If he is then he could play for the UCD club and still play for his Galway club. Would be one way of controlling the Super Clubs."
Not studying in UCD but still, surely playing for 2 clubs on opposite sides of the country after the run Galway have had would be madness on anyone's part?

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3673 - 30/07/2022 20:17:05    2435528

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Replying To MillerX:  "Is he studying in UCD?
If he is then he could play for the UCD club and still play for his Galway club. Would be one way of controlling the Super Clubs."
He wants to play for Crokes, that's the end of it. Who are you to tell him what he can and can't do?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1875 - 30/07/2022 20:34:33    2435530

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Replying To galwayfball:  "Exactly. Walsh wanted this transfer"
I can remember when Jack O'Shea transferred from his club in Kerry where he was living and working. Big news in the media. Most officials, at county board and county team, were not at all happy. Rumours that he would never again don the county colours circulated. Stopped once they calmed down and asked where would they be without him.
No way could you make trips from Leixlip to south Kerry for club games.
For whatever reason a player has for moving on it is his right and should be wished the best of luck.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 673 - 30/07/2022 21:11:10    2435534

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Some people on here should really crawl back under the rocks the came from - what Walsh wants to do is his own business. Nobody makes these moves lightly and the best of luck to him in his future career.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1453 - 30/07/2022 21:11:42    2435535

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Replying To AnCrúiscínLán:  "The problem in Galway is that a small number of clubs with large catchment areas, consistently win senior county titles e.g. Corofin, Mountbellew Moylough, and recently with the expansion in Galway City - Claregalway, Salthill/Knockbacarra.

Of course, every young player's ambition is to win a senior title, but there appears to be no thought given to providing a level playing field.

David Clifford plays with a small rural club - Fossa just outside Killarney. However, Kerry supports a Divisional outlet, which means players can still experience senior club football e.g. Norh Kerry/ West Kerry.

Something needs to be done in Galway. Either set up Divisional teams, or else consider club amalgamations in rural areas.

In the past, Michael Donnellan transferred from Dunmore to Salthill and won an AI club title with them. He had been a one man show with Dunmore for several years.."
He was by no means a "one man show" for Dunmore. They had some fine players at that time, including his own two brothers. ( I'm not a McHales clubman BTW)

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 401 - 30/07/2022 21:32:16    2435539

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Replying To zinny:  "Some people on here should really crawl back under the rocks the came from - what Walsh wants to do is his own business. Nobody makes these moves lightly and the best of luck to him in his future career."
Agreed . You didn't see anyone complaining when Shane Horan from Offaly joined kilmacud or when pat spillane originally of Kerry joined judes or when Eoghan o Gara moved down to shelmaliers in Wexford it's just because of how good Walsh is people are saying it's unfair understandably frustrating but Walsh is his own man and at the end of the day it's only an amateur sport It's usually all down to work commitments or studying really and even if It's not who cares. If other players are allowed to do it why can't Walsh ?

Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 253 - 30/07/2022 21:39:30    2435540

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Replying To Kickitout:  "I'd definitely encourage Shane to think long and hard about this just when Galway football is in a good place and he is adored by all the young kids not only in his own club but every club in Galway the amour of. Neutrals thar would go watch him play in Galway is unreal , I've no doubt he be getting a substantial package to play in Dublin ,, just look at Padraig Joyce who played for his club prob 25 years adult football I've no doubt he could have left ,, he only be another number in Dublin club scene in his own club he is everything ,,"
Why would PJ have ever considered switching clubs? He was living in Galway the whole time and he was playing with a very successful club - he won 4 senior county medals with Killererin. Shane has given tremendous service to his club and almost single-handedly won them the 2020 Intermediate final despite being persistently fouled on and off the ball all throughout the game. . If he is living in Dublin now, then he is perfectly entitled to play his club football there like many other high-profile inter-county stars from all over the country have done over the years.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 947 - 30/07/2022 21:58:05    2435541

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Replying To Westmeath213:  "Agreed . You didn't see anyone complaining when Shane Horan from Offaly joined kilmacud or when pat spillane originally of Kerry joined judes or when Eoghan o Gara moved down to shelmaliers in Wexford it's just because of how good Walsh is people are saying it's unfair understandably frustrating but Walsh is his own man and at the end of the day it's only an amateur sport It's usually all down to work commitments or studying really and even if It's not who cares. If other players are allowed to do it why can't Walsh ?"
Shane Horan is a Dub I think wo plays with Offaly under the parent rule. I have no problem with players moving club s cos of travelling etc but it should be a club in the area you living or working. I don't like the idea of handpicking a club. Now maybe Walsh is studying or living beside Kilmacud and if so no problem.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3040 - 30/07/2022 22:01:02    2435543

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Amateur game. The lad can play where he wants to fit in with his own lifestyle. None of us are in his shoes. Good Luck to him. He's a wonderful player.

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 31/07/2022 08:29:02    2435546

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People on about whether he lives in Stillorgan or not - why?
There is no parish rule in Dublin - you can play for whoever you want.
A native Dub from Lucan can play for Kilmacud if he wants.

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1030 - 31/07/2022 08:40:16    2435547

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Firstly, it's a free country and a player should be able to play for the club that (1) he grew up in, or (b) where he lives. I have a bigger problem with the parent rule.

Secondly, what is the incentive in Galway when Corofinwill won't every 9 out of 10 county championships. Walsh won't transfer to them so will never win a senior club in Galway. His club chairman would be better take his gripes to his own county board. He should be putting forward a county championship in the Kerry format so his clubs best players can still play for his club and also have a shot at a senior county title. Small minded objections to his own players right to freedom is not the way to help his own club, which he as the chairman should be focused on.
As for Corofins dominance in Galway, it is an amalgamated club - which has since had huge population increase and should now be split again.

Thirdly, he is not joining the local club in Dublin - he is joining a superclub for an easy shot at a county title and a good shot at an all Ireland club. This kind of "ring chasing" shouldn't be allowed. If Dublin county board are happy to have their club championship turned into a farce (which they are, as this has been going on a long time), the Leinster Council and/or central council shouldn't allow a club with more than 2 non native players enter their championships.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 987 - 31/07/2022 09:14:33    2435549

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These transfers have been happening since St Patrick was a child!! What's the big deal now?

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 248 - 31/07/2022 10:04:20    2435551

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I always thought that a student can't transfer to a club that is outside the county where his primary residence is. I can remember a huge row some years ago in a Dublin when a number of brothers transferred in and played with another big south side club while they apparently continued to live in Wicklow but had the use of a Dublin address.

But the GAA, being the mess that it can be, officially allows players from any county play for the like of UCD, UCC and UL in the local club championships…while also retaining membership of their home club.

BlueBeret (Dublin) - Posts: 41 - 31/07/2022 10:14:24    2435553

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Replying To BlueBeret:  "I always thought that a student can't transfer to a club that is outside the county where his primary residence is. I can remember a huge row some years ago in a Dublin when a number of brothers transferred in and played with another big south side club while they apparently continued to live in Wicklow but had the use of a Dublin address.

But the GAA, being the mess that it can be, officially allows players from any county play for the like of UCD, UCC and UL in the local club championships…while also retaining membership of their home club."
Nobody has mentioned the obvious Elephant in the seomra!!!!!

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 219 - 31/07/2022 10:45:28    2435558

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He's one of the best players in Ireland, he's Galway main man, he's in his prime. He's not some ordinary player over the hill changing clubs. So it is a bit of a shock. I agree with people who are against this, the is the pull of urban against rural. It a step to professionalism looking at the way this is panning out, and it's a sad thing.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 629 - 31/07/2022 11:04:24    2435564

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Firstly, it's a free country and a player should be able to play for the club that (1) he grew up in, or (b) where he lives. I have a bigger problem with the parent rule.

Secondly, what is the incentive in Galway when Corofinwill won't every 9 out of 10 county championships. Walsh won't transfer to them so will never win a senior club in Galway. His club chairman would be better take his gripes to his own county board. He should be putting forward a county championship in the Kerry format so his clubs best players can still play for his club and also have a shot at a senior county title. Small minded objections to his own players right to freedom is not the way to help his own club, which he as the chairman should be focused on.
As for Corofins dominance in Galway, it is an amalgamated club - which has since had huge population increase and should now be split again.

Thirdly, he is not joining the local club in Dublin - he is joining a superclub for an easy shot at a county title and a good shot at an all Ireland club. This kind of "ring chasing" shouldn't be allowed. If Dublin county board are happy to have their club championship turned into a farce (which they are, as this has been going on a long time), the Leinster Council and/or central council shouldn't allow a club with more than 2 non native players enter their championships."
That's all very well when you're in rural Ireland and the likelihood is you won't have much more than 2 blow ins. However how can you limit lads who live/work in Dublin and want to play their club football there. Its not the same as a rural club. My own club in Meath already has 2 Dubs living in the county, playing for us & all are welcome no matter where they are from. It's been going on since forever. Is it only ok if they play with a smaller club, a less successful club?

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 31/07/2022 11:05:57    2435565

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A good move for Shane and Galway senior team. A bad move for Kikerrin/Clon club. Long term this will help Galway senior team.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2315 - 31/07/2022 11:08:39    2435566

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You can't fault Shane for having ambition and wanting to play at a higher level. At 29 he hasn't many years left and he hardly wants to have the distinction of no Intermediate or Senior Championship medal and that means never having a cut at getting a Connacht Club medal. I know nothing about his club team in Galway. Maybe they are playing to their potential and cannot get out of intermediate or maybe they have half a dozen or a dozen good players and the rest couldn't be arsed getting fit, they might be happy to sup pints and procrastinate on how good they would be if the club did x y and z. Is a talented player supposed to put up with that ? However it's very disappointing that he is going to the big club in Dublin where the dogs in the streets know he is getting a good package. He probably spends 8 month with the county,3 with the club and maybe a month off

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1078 - 31/07/2022 11:38:54    2435573

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Firstly, it's a free country and a player should be able to play for the club that (1) he grew up in, or (b) where he lives. I have a bigger problem with the parent rule.

Secondly, what is the incentive in Galway when Corofinwill won't every 9 out of 10 county championships. Walsh won't transfer to them so will never win a senior club in Galway. His club chairman would be better take his gripes to his own county board. He should be putting forward a county championship in the Kerry format so his clubs best players can still play for his club and also have a shot at a senior county title. Small minded objections to his own players right to freedom is not the way to help his own club, which he as the chairman should be focused on.
As for Corofins dominance in Galway, it is an amalgamated club - which has since had huge population increase and should now be split again.

Thirdly, he is not joining the local club in Dublin - he is joining a superclub for an easy shot at a county title and a good shot at an all Ireland club. This kind of "ring chasing" shouldn't be allowed. If Dublin county board are happy to have their club championship turned into a farce (which they are, as this has been going on a long time), the Leinster Council and/or central council shouldn't allow a club with more than 2 non native players enter their championships."
You want to brush up on your knowlege of Galway club football.. Its 3 years since corofin won a county title and their domination was founded on a total domination of underage that has long since dwindled. Still a great club and could win 2 or 4 of the next 10, but its goimg to be a lot more open and i expect moycullem mountbellew salthill and claregalway all to win at least 1 of the next 10 with strong possibilities for tuam annaghdown and oranmore (currently intermediate but watch out for them)

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 31/07/2022 12:21:31    2435579

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Sorry, but I think this whole Parish Rule/No Parish Rule need to be discussed further, our club is a small rural one here In Tyrone, when our kids grow up many go to work and buy a house in Omagh/Killyclogher which are aprox 7-8 miles away, their kids go to the schools there and by in large play for one of those Big clubs.
We accept this and wish our Former players/members kids well, it's their 'parish'
We as a club like wise select players from within our Parish boundary, again with the odd exception like through the parent Rule. We field teams at all grades but struggle, especially at underage to have 15 players all the right age for their age grade as our pick of players solely is from people living within our Parish.
All clubs in Tyrone follow the parish Rule, which I though was an across the board GAA rule until reading this thread.
First question is
Is the Parish Rule an offical GAA rule or a bye law for each County board to decide upon?
Second question
Can we all complete the list to state whether each of the 32 Counties have a Parish Rule in place or not.
Dublin : No Parish Rule
Tyrone : Parish Rule

IrelandUnited (Tyrone) - Posts: 74 - 31/07/2022 12:30:21    2435582

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