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To get my nerves out of my head this morning I thought I'd start a thread on this topic.
All posters welcome of course but especially interested to hear from cats fans.
For me it's the 06 final v Cork. I'd never seen him more elated after a victory than that day,(I was jumping around the sitting room myself lol,), there was a personal rivalry between both sets of players, with the Cork lads being accused of being slightly arrogant on all star trips etc and in hindsight it turned out to be the day that his greatest team came to be.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1711 - 24/07/2022 12:46:20    2433872

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Replying To Galway9801:  "To get my nerves out of my head this morning I thought I'd start a thread on this topic.
All posters welcome of course but especially interested to hear from cats fans.
For me it's the 06 final v Cork. I'd never seen him more elated after a victory than that day,(I was jumping around the sitting room myself lol,), there was a personal rivalry between both sets of players, with the Cork lads being accused of being slightly arrogant on all star trips etc and in hindsight it turned out to be the day that his greatest team came to be."
2006 was the greatest because they stopped Cork from taking over.

But 2008 was another level of hurling. Every move they forged seemed to result in a score and RTE gave Cody man of the match.

As a player, he and Kilkenny were outstanding in 1982.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 26/07/2022 17:01:10    2434656

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Replying To Galway9801:  "To get my nerves out of my head this morning I thought I'd start a thread on this topic.
All posters welcome of course but especially interested to hear from cats fans.
For me it's the 06 final v Cork. I'd never seen him more elated after a victory than that day,(I was jumping around the sitting room myself lol,), there was a personal rivalry between both sets of players, with the Cork lads being accused of being slightly arrogant on all star trips etc and in hindsight it turned out to be the day that his greatest team came to be."
Could have been 06, but like all first wins, the one in 2000 must have been a memorable one for him. And the fact that Kilkenny hadn't won it since 1993, which is a long time for them, would have added to it.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 26/07/2022 20:45:43    2434712

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09 gave him and Kilkenny the 4 in a row and the first All Ireland Final victory of his reign over great rivals Tipperary. A young Tipp team largely outplayed Kilkenny on the day but a sending off, a late penalty and experience got Kilkenny over the line. Another hugely important win of the Cody era was the semi final defeat of Tipp in 2002. Tipp were reigning champions and had always been Kilkenny's bogey team. Kilkenny had only beaten Tipp once in the championship ( 1967 Final ) since the 1920s. Kilkenny went on to beat Clare in the 2002 Final.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2166 - 26/07/2022 21:59:57    2434728

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Replying To endgame:  "09 gave him and Kilkenny the 4 in a row and the first All Ireland Final victory of his reign over great rivals Tipperary. A young Tipp team largely outplayed Kilkenny on the day but a sending off, a late penalty and experience got Kilkenny over the line. Another hugely important win of the Cody era was the semi final defeat of Tipp in 2002. Tipp were reigning champions and had always been Kilkenny's bogey team. Kilkenny had only beaten Tipp once in the championship ( 1967 Final ) since the 1920s. Kilkenny went on to beat Clare in the 2002 Final."
A little bit misleading as Tipp didn't get out of Munster too many times in the 30s and 40s and early 50s on account of Limerick and Corks dominance. Then during the mid 50s to late 60s Wexford would've reached more finals than Kilkenny. Then during the 70s and 80s Tipp had another barren spell then during the 90s there many good teams. Just how many times did Tipp and Kilkenny meet in Championshop between 1929 and 2002 barring 1967? Was it even half a dozen?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11890 - 27/07/2022 10:32:02    2434771

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Replying To endgame:  "09 gave him and Kilkenny the 4 in a row and the first All Ireland Final victory of his reign over great rivals Tipperary. A young Tipp team largely outplayed Kilkenny on the day but a sending off, a late penalty and experience got Kilkenny over the line. Another hugely important win of the Cody era was the semi final defeat of Tipp in 2002. Tipp were reigning champions and had always been Kilkenny's bogey team. Kilkenny had only beaten Tipp once in the championship ( 1967 Final ) since the 1920s. Kilkenny went on to beat Clare in the 2002 Final."
A little bit misleading as Tipp didn't get out of Munster too many times in the 30s and 40s and early 50s on account of Limerick and Corks dominance. Then during the mid 50s to late 60s Wexford would've reached more finals than Kilkenny. Then during the 70s and 80s Tipp had another barren spell then during the 90s there many good teams. Just how many times did Tipp and Kilkenny meet in Championshop between 1929 and 2002 barring 1967? Was it even half a dozen?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11890 - 27/07/2022 10:38:45    2434776

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Replying To endgame:  "09 gave him and Kilkenny the 4 in a row and the first All Ireland Final victory of his reign over great rivals Tipperary. A young Tipp team largely outplayed Kilkenny on the day but a sending off, a late penalty and experience got Kilkenny over the line. Another hugely important win of the Cody era was the semi final defeat of Tipp in 2002. Tipp were reigning champions and had always been Kilkenny's bogey team. Kilkenny had only beaten Tipp once in the championship ( 1967 Final ) since the 1920s. Kilkenny went on to beat Clare in the 2002 Final."
Tipp beat Kilkenny in 37, 45, 50, 58, and 64 beating Kilkenny 5 times in a row before 67. They then beat them in 71 and 91 before Kilkenny won in 2002. It was pretty even up to the end of the 20s. Overall I think Tipp would be slightly shading the head to head still.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11890 - 27/07/2022 10:55:10    2434781

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Good stats , think in terms of finals during Cody's reign that Tipperary broke even winning three (10, 16, 19) and losing three (09, 11, 14 ). Same could be said for Cork winning in 99, 04 and losing in 03 and 06. Limerick avenged their 07 defeat by beating KK in this years final. Cody was in bonus territory with an AI final win against Waterford, Clare and Offaly and two against Galway.
Of the seven finals that KK didn't reach during Cody's 24 years in charge they were stopped twice by Cork, Galway & Waterford and once by Limerick.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 506 - 27/07/2022 14:06:41    2434868

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Replying To Curlew66:  "Good stats , think in terms of finals during Cody's reign that Tipperary broke even winning three (10, 16, 19) and losing three (09, 11, 14 ). Same could be said for Cork winning in 99, 04 and losing in 03 and 06. Limerick avenged their 07 defeat by beating KK in this years final. Cody was in bonus territory with an AI final win against Waterford, Clare and Offaly and two against Galway.
Of the seven finals that KK didn't reach during Cody's 24 years in charge they were stopped twice by Cork, Galway & Waterford and once by Limerick."
His record was amazing overall though. Those 3 Cork wins were their only wins in all that time. Tipp won in 2001 after beating us in a replay in the SF but that was their only other win apart from the 3 they beat Kilkenny. Limerick are tied with Tipp on 4. Galway and Clare won 1 each. Apart from that Cody cleaned up.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11890 - 27/07/2022 14:40:11    2434875

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In terms of winning the title:losing the final: not making the final, Cody was 7:2:2 first 11 seasons ending at 4 in a row in '09, onto similar 'success ratio' of 4:1:1 for 6 seasons up '15, and then his concluding 7 seasons showed a substantially different looking ratio of 0:3:4. To honour Brian's retirement I'd quote the Emily Dickenson lines 'Because I could not stop for death, he kindly stopped for me, the carriage held but just us both, and immortality'.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3423 - 27/07/2022 17:44:29    2434940

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2012 is a forgotten one
Hammered by Galway in leinster final and under pressure in the drawn final, before a brilliant reply showing won the game by 11 points

222 (UK) - Posts: 694 - 28/07/2022 11:04:50    2435033

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Replying To 222:  "2012 is a forgotten one
Hammered by Galway in leinster final and under pressure in the drawn final, before a brilliant reply showing won the game by 11 points"
It's not forgotten here unfortunately. :)
We started the final very well and had a good chance to put a bigger gap between us at half-time. They got a few late scores in the first half to close the gap a bit and took over in the 2nd half. We were lucky to get a draw in the end.
We all knew what was coming in the replay.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2043 - 28/07/2022 12:02:31    2435050

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Replying To Viking66:  "A little bit misleading as Tipp didn't get out of Munster too many times in the 30s and 40s and early 50s on account of Limerick and Corks dominance. Then during the mid 50s to late 60s Wexford would've reached more finals than Kilkenny. Then during the 70s and 80s Tipp had another barren spell then during the 90s there many good teams. Just how many times did Tipp and Kilkenny meet in Championshop between 1929 and 2002 barring 1967? Was it even half a dozen?"
Hold on. Tipp beat KK in '37, '45, '50, '58, '64, '71 and '91, with KK just winning once, in '67. So that 2002 win was an iconic one for Brian. They met eight times and Tipp won seven of them from 1923 to 2001. Actually both Tipp and Limerick have the advantage over KK on Final day meetings.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 28/07/2022 14:58:14    2435104

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Replying To Viking66:  "A little bit misleading as Tipp didn't get out of Munster too many times in the 30s and 40s and early 50s on account of Limerick and Corks dominance. Then during the mid 50s to late 60s Wexford would've reached more finals than Kilkenny. Then during the 70s and 80s Tipp had another barren spell then during the 90s there many good teams. Just how many times did Tipp and Kilkenny meet in Championshop between 1929 and 2002 barring 1967? Was it even half a dozen?"
Tipp did 3-in-a-row, 49-50-51 afaik.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1917 - 28/07/2022 18:13:40    2435152

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Hold on. Tipp beat KK in '37, '45, '50, '58, '64, '71 and '91, with KK just winning once, in '67. So that 2002 win was an iconic one for Brian. They met eight times and Tipp won seven of them from 1923 to 2001. Actually both Tipp and Limerick have the advantage over KK on Final day meetings."
Amazing when you think of it. Not only have they won 36 times they also have lost to more times than they have beaten several other top counties. They have played in 64 finals.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11890 - 28/07/2022 18:39:16    2435156

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Replying To Viking66:  "Amazing when you think of it. Not only have they won 36 times they also have lost to more times than they have beaten several other top counties. They have played in 64 finals."
Wish we could just win one final now before I pass on to greener pastures it's an amazing amount of all irelands to be after winning.Hats off to them I suppose just never know when there bet .

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 229 - 29/07/2022 09:28:00    2435180

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Replying To Viking66:  "Amazing when you think of it. Not only have they won 36 times they also have lost to more times than they have beaten several other top counties. They have played in 64 finals."
"they also have lost to more times than they have beaten several other top counties".
Not 'several', two. Limerick and Tipp.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2476 - 29/07/2022 09:46:23    2435182

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""they also have lost to more times than they have beaten several other top counties".
Not 'several', two. Limerick and Tipp."
Up until the 1980s what was the number of top hurling counties? How many were there in Leinster?

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1806 - 29/07/2022 11:34:27    2435206

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Tipp had player's that'd take the eye out of your head in the 60s.............literally like!!!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3423 - 29/07/2022 14:40:25    2435242

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Replying To baire:  "Up until the 1980s what was the number of top hurling counties? How many were there in Leinster?"
But Shure since Offaly won in '98, the big three have bestrode the scene. Yourselves and Clare broke their strangle hold once a piece and TBQH with you this a crack LK Team and when they go we could be decades without another All Ireland Crown, like we were after the great Team of about 80 years ago, odd, went.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 29/07/2022 16:33:49    2435279

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