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Galway V Kerry All Ireland Final 2022

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Comer never scored and never even looked like scoring….."
He caught a brilliant ball over his head for a mark that eventually led to a McDaid point in the second half but apart from that his contribution was almost nothing unfortunately.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1717 - 30/07/2022 13:23:52    2435380

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Replying To baire:  ""Kerry would argue that they themselves were unfortunate to have a free scored against them in the 64th minute when Gavin White performed a perfectly legal shoulder on Cillian McDaid. The problem with that is McDaid collided into Jack Barry and as the Galway midfielder was sandwiched and had no opportunity to fall from the tackle it was a free". Brian Gavin, Irish Examiner, Mon 25 July 2022."
McDaid was not 'sandwiched': Gavin shouldered McDaid and then McDaid collided with Barry. They were not simultaneous events.
'No opportunity to fall from the tackle'. What on earth does that mean?

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 30/07/2022 14:00:41    2435406

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Replying To Aibrean:  "McDaid was not 'sandwiched': Gavin shouldered McDaid and then McDaid collided with Barry. They were not simultaneous events.
'No opportunity to fall from the tackle'. What on earth does that mean?"
Ask Brian Gavin if you can't figure it out! He knows a thing or two about the rules.
Since there were two Kerry players on each side of him, where was the need for a shoulder? It was obvious to me that they wanted to take him out of the game - he was down injured for a good few minutes, could have been concussed, and he missed the next two score chances which is unlike him.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1813 - 30/07/2022 16:32:22    2435455

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Replying To Aibrean:  "McDaid was not 'sandwiched': Gavin shouldered McDaid and then McDaid collided with Barry. They were not simultaneous events.
'No opportunity to fall from the tackle'. What on earth does that mean?"
I do not know where he found this rule. Nowhere does it say that a shoulder tackle can only be legitimately executed if the two players are isolated from other players.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 30/07/2022 17:15:29    2435464

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Replying To Gaa Fan:  "I do not know where he found this rule. Nowhere does it say that a shoulder tackle can only be legitimately executed if the two players are isolated from other players."
It's in the rule book, the updated version!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1813 - 30/07/2022 18:17:31    2435488

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Replying To baire:  "It's in the rule book, the updated version!"
New rule my foot.
"Page 69, rule 1.7
1.6 Player(s) may tackle an opponent for the ball.
1.7 Provided he has at least one foot on the
ground, a player may make a shoulder to
shoulder charge on an opponent:-
(a) who is in possession of the ball, or
(b) who is playing the ball other than when
kicking it, or
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(c) when both players are moving in the
direction of the ball to play it. "

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 30/07/2022 19:43:37    2435518

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Replying To Gaa Fan:  "New rule my foot.
"Page 69, rule 1.7
1.6 Player(s) may tackle an opponent for the ball.
1.7 Provided he has at least one foot on the
ground, a player may make a shoulder to
shoulder charge on an opponent:-
(a) who is in possession of the ball, or
(b) who is playing the ball other than when
kicking it, or
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(c) when both players are moving in the
direction of the ball to play it. ""
There is a rule about the number of steps allowed without soloing the ball. Did you count the number K Spillane took before his fisted point? Twice the limit at least by my count. I'm not saying Kerry wouldn't have won the game but there were 3 calls by the ref at the most crucial time, from 67 minutes to the end that gave Kerry a big boost. Look at Spillane's reaction to the John Daly free. Galway were very much in that game until the very end, the final score doesn't reflect that.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1813 - 31/07/2022 08:24:50    2435545

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Replying To baire:  "It's in the rule book, the updated version!"
You seem to have overlooked telling us where this is in the rule book??

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 31/07/2022 12:10:16    2435577

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Replying To baire:  "There is a rule about the number of steps allowed without soloing the ball. Did you count the number K Spillane took before his fisted point? Twice the limit at least by my count. I'm not saying Kerry wouldn't have won the game but there were 3 calls by the ref at the most crucial time, from 67 minutes to the end that gave Kerry a big boost. Look at Spillane's reaction to the John Daly free. Galway were very much in that game until the very end, the final score doesn't reflect that."
The losing team will almost always be able to point to a few calls which went against them. The Cluxton free in 2011 is a perfect example: Kerry would say the Dublin player ran straight into Barry John Keane. Likewise, if Kerry had lost v Galway, they'd be looking at the McDaid shoulder incident, Comer's tackle on Murphy (he threw Murphy aside with his arms/hands from behind), Comer touching the ball on the ground, the Galway player tripping over Moran on the ground (ref probably correct - Ive seen no commentary on it - Sindar where are you?) and probably a few more........

And, by the way, Comer unsportingly and illegally waved his arms about - 'interfering with the free taker' - when Clifford was taking that free after the Kelly/Spillane incident. Had Clifford missed it would be another Kerry gripe - ball should have been brought forward.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 31/07/2022 12:27:59    2435581

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We had a few chances in the 2nd half to turn the game in our favour but we didn't take them.

We can go up and down back and over about what might have been last Sunday but overall Kerry are deserved champions and fair play to them.

Well done to our lads on giving us a great year find the small margins in our game, improve and go again in 2023.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1572 - 31/07/2022 12:42:54    2435584

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Replying To Aibrean:  "You seem to have overlooked telling us where this is in the rule book??"
When you get in touch with Brian Gavin ask him about Spillane's steps as well, good lad!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1813 - 31/07/2022 13:12:14    2435591

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Replying To Aibrean:  "The losing team will almost always be able to point to a few calls which went against them. The Cluxton free in 2011 is a perfect example: Kerry would say the Dublin player ran straight into Barry John Keane. Likewise, if Kerry had lost v Galway, they'd be looking at the McDaid shoulder incident, Comer's tackle on Murphy (he threw Murphy aside with his arms/hands from behind), Comer touching the ball on the ground, the Galway player tripping over Moran on the ground (ref probably correct - Ive seen no commentary on it - Sindar where are you?) and probably a few more........

And, by the way, Comer unsportingly and illegally waved his arms about - 'interfering with the free taker' - when Clifford was taking that free after the Kelly/Spillane incident. Had Clifford missed it would be another Kerry gripe - ball should have been brought forward."
There are always plusses and minusses. Forgive us Galway people for pointing to some of the what ifs . Its important for losing teams to talk about these as part of the recovery process and as part of the pyschological rebuilding to convince ourselves that we can bridge the gap. I think you would have to acknowledge that almost all Galway commentators agree that Kerry were the better side just like most Kerry supporters agree that the 4 point margin flattered them. Kerry supporters in general are gracious in victory and in defeat and (unlike Limerick supporters) dont try to rub salt into wounds.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 842 - 31/07/2022 14:45:20    2435601

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Top notch analysis from Joe Brolly today.
He reckons that if galway has the chance, they'd play the game again.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1717 - 31/07/2022 15:41:34    2435612

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Refs always make mistakes. You just have to accept that and look instead at what your team could have done better in order to win the game. Then you are on the right track.

crafty (Galway) - Posts: 249 - 31/07/2022 15:45:29    2435615

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Replying To anotheralias:  "There are always plusses and minusses. Forgive us Galway people for pointing to some of the what ifs . Its important for losing teams to talk about these as part of the recovery process and as part of the pyschological rebuilding to convince ourselves that we can bridge the gap. I think you would have to acknowledge that almost all Galway commentators agree that Kerry were the better side just like most Kerry supporters agree that the 4 point margin flattered them. Kerry supporters in general are gracious in victory and in defeat and (unlike Limerick supporters) dont try to rub salt into wounds."
Excellent post. 'Tá cead cainte ag fear caillte an cluiche'.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 31/07/2022 16:41:19    2435624

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Top notch analysis from Joe Brolly today.
He reckons that if galway has the chance, they'd play the game again."
Of course it was a big chance for Galway. Level with 4 minutes of normal time to go. No assurances as to when Galway will be back in a Final again. They hadn't been there before for 21 years. Galway will have regrets.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2170 - 31/07/2022 16:45:38    2435625

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Replying To endgame:  "Of course it was a big chance for Galway. Level with 4 minutes of normal time to go. No assurances as to when Galway will be back in a Final again. They hadn't been there before for 21 years. Galway will have regrets."
Don't think Galway will have many if any regrets. Gave it their best shot and just came up short against hot favourites Kerry who was the better team on the day.

I doubt Galway will be waiting 21 years for another final appearances. Lastly can people stop paying attention to the attention seeker Brolly.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 31/07/2022 18:21:10    2435634

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Replying To Yondu:  "Don't think Galway will have many if any regrets. Gave it their best shot and just came up short against hot favourites Kerry who was the better team on the day.

I doubt Galway will be waiting 21 years for another final appearances. Lastly can people stop paying attention to the attention seeker Brolly."
Brolly may be an attention seeker as you say but he's a very bright man and a lot of his analysis is on the money. Kerry were the better team last Sunday but Galway were close. It's hard now with quarter finals to get to a Final. No assurances at all that Galway will be back in the Final soon so of course they'll have regrets.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2170 - 31/07/2022 20:51:00    2435658

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Replying To Aibrean:  "Excellent post. 'Tá cead cainte ag fear caillte an cluiche'."
Ach níor cheart don bhuaiteoir a bheith ag clamhsán!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1813 - 31/07/2022 20:58:25    2435660

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Replying To Aibrean:  "Excellent post. 'Tá cead cainte ag fear caillte an cluiche'."
Ach níor cheart don bhuaiteoir a bheith ag clamhsán!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1813 - 31/07/2022 21:20:06    2435665

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