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Galway V Kerry All Ireland Final 2022

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Replying To StopTheLights:  "That was a free out 99 times out of 100.
Simple as.
It turned the game and the momentum.
No Galwayman begrudges Kerry their victory.
He just said what everyone was thinking."
Free in all day long. Oldest trick in the book. Gary Sice was a master of it and used to get away with it more often than not. As a defender I'm delighted to see referees pulling for it

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 26/07/2022 17:40:13    2434670

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Replying To festinog:  "I agree with most of what you write, I'd just make two points:
Gleeson, fair play to him, isn't the number one goalie. The lad had to step up when we lost Bernie Power to injury in the league.
Clifford was kept to three points from play. I'd say that's pretty effective marking. Kerry's defensive system was more effective to be sure, but I'd not say Kelly wasn't effective.

It was a game of small margins, and Kerry had the resources to get over the line. At the end of the day we only lost by 3 after going scoreless for nearly 20 minutes. Both teams played strong, clean football. I thought of the initial 15, man-for-man they were evenly matched. The difference, as you rightly say, was the strength Kerry could pull from the bench, something we lacked. I'd also say that Comer and Finnerty won't be happy at how they were marked out of the game, and that experience will stand nicely to them and the management team.

Well done Kerry on the win. Hard fought and well earned."
Does a mark not count "from play". Galway had no plan to stop him and Kelly was left alone with him for the high balls in. Did he not score three from marks?

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 26/07/2022 17:42:55    2434671

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Because he wasn't available (match fit) to make the 26."
He was as match fit as the subkeeper who hadn't played a senior game this year.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 219 - 26/07/2022 17:59:21    2434675

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Because he wasn't available (match fit) to make the 26."
don't think Conor would agree with you there .

fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 415 - 26/07/2022 19:15:16    2434691

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Replying To 97Cavans:  "Out of curiosity, did anyone see Paddy Tally on screen? I don't remember seeing him, maybe he wasn't at the game? Seems strange as we saw plenty of Cian O'Neill and the likes of Donaghy for Armagh."
I believe he sits in the stand. The same as John Divilly does for Galway. They get a better view of the game from there.
I saw Tally celebrating with the team and management on the pitch after the game.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 26/07/2022 19:36:23    2434699

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Replying To baire:  "You're a tough man! Fair play to you! Is that a hard or a soft keyboard you have there?"
Well 'ard, I'd say.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 26/07/2022 21:25:56    2434718

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Replying To slayer:  "I thought it was a very enjoyable game and fair play to both teams. Galway just didn't push on like they needed to. It was as if Kerry's experience from 2019 stood to them and they closed out the game.

Just a word on Padraig Joyce. A lot of praise went Cian O'Neill's way in media outlets as we got nearer the final. I think Joyce put Galway football number one by bringing in a strong coach like that. I think Joyce deserves a lot of credit for being a strong manager but willing to not be the only voice in the dressing room.

Damien Comer didn't have his best day and if he learns from this and Galway unearth another scoring forward they are a fine team. Thanks to both teams for a fine game of football."
Thanks for bringing that up. There were plenty of people on these boards calling for his head before he'd finished his first year. Hopefully this will put that to bed for a little while at least.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 26/07/2022 21:27:15    2434719

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Replying To 97Cavans:  "Out of curiosity, did anyone see Paddy Tally on screen? I don't remember seeing him, maybe he wasn't at the game? Seems strange as we saw plenty of Cian O'Neill and the likes of Donaghy for Armagh."
He went and shook hands with all the Galway players after the game.

exiledfromthekingdom (Mayo) - Posts: 1 - 26/07/2022 21:52:58    2434725

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Galway did look tired after 50 minutes but showed great resilience to come back from 16-14 down to be all square with a few minutes to go. The free against Daly was a hammer blow but has anyone bothered to comment on the SPillane point that took them 2 points clear?

Spillane collected a ball with Molloy and McHugh close to him and rugby style took 11 steps to get away from Molloy, hard to believe it wasn't talked about.

Two huge decisions went against Galway when at a time they were on their last legs.

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 260 - 27/07/2022 10:54:27    2434780

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Replying To Sindar:  "Does a mark not count "from play". Galway had no plan to stop him and Kelly was left alone with him for the high balls in. Did he not score three from marks?"
I think it does but it shouldn't. Should be same category as a free or 45 but you earn a mark but you're awarded a free or 45. For me one of the marks Cliffird jumped to claim the ball but Kelly didn't attempt to field the ball with him because it was better to concede a point than potentially Clifford winning it or breaking ball and a goal conceded. Just my take. Conceding him the mark slows him down and a point is the worst outcome. The same one where McStay nearly lost his mind as if he watched Superman taking flight to save the planet. He barely got off the ground, bread and butter stuff for that man. I think David Clifford will be even more lethal for Kerry when the mark goes, hopefully soon.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 27/07/2022 11:03:39    2434792

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Who was marking Comer and did Comer score at all? I don't remember Comer scoring at all but I'm not 100% sure.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2129 - 27/07/2022 11:53:39    2434821

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "I think it does but it shouldn't. Should be same category as a free or 45 but you earn a mark but you're awarded a free or 45. For me one of the marks Cliffird jumped to claim the ball but Kelly didn't attempt to field the ball with him because it was better to concede a point than potentially Clifford winning it or breaking ball and a goal conceded. Just my take. Conceding him the mark slows him down and a point is the worst outcome. The same one where McStay nearly lost his mind as if he watched Superman taking flight to save the planet. He barely got off the ground, bread and butter stuff for that man. I think David Clifford will be even more lethal for Kerry when the mark goes, hopefully soon."
Hopefully they get rid of the mark it's one of the stupidest rules that the GAA have introduced lately I thought leaping in the air and catching a high ball was one of the great skills of Gaelic football and of course you will be under pressure but that was always the case to many players are getting soft frees for sticking their arm in the air nowadays.

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 27/07/2022 13:01:06    2434847

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "I think it does but it shouldn't. Should be same category as a free or 45 but you earn a mark but you're awarded a free or 45. For me one of the marks Cliffird jumped to claim the ball but Kelly didn't attempt to field the ball with him because it was better to concede a point than potentially Clifford winning it or breaking ball and a goal conceded. Just my take. Conceding him the mark slows him down and a point is the worst outcome. The same one where McStay nearly lost his mind as if he watched Superman taking flight to save the planet. He barely got off the ground, bread and butter stuff for that man. I think David Clifford will be even more lethal for Kerry when the mark goes, hopefully soon."
Well said.

The mark actually stifles players like Con and Clifford and the likes.

Born goal getters but after fielding the ball its almost too easy to take the mark and the handy point. Whereas before the mark if you found yourself fielding a ball just outside the square it was the perfect place to be to create a goal scoring opportunity.

I absolutely despise the mark as a rule. It makes it more of a stop start game and has resulted in less goals being scored.

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 27/07/2022 13:11:25    2434849

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Who was marking Comer and did Comer score at all? I don't remember Comer scoring at all but I'm not 100% sure."
Watch the game again and you'll find out!

hashtag2017 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 27/07/2022 14:06:23    2434867

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Who was marking Comer and did Comer score at all? I don't remember Comer scoring at all but I'm not 100% sure."
Were you on the moon at the weekend?

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 27/07/2022 15:13:27    2434889

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Jack O'Connor, if I'm looking at it correct, has over 3 terms managed Kerry for 9 seasons between 2003 and this year. In those 9 seasons he has now won 4 titles. In this time frame Kerry have also won 2 titles with other managers and the role of manager has changed a good bit between his first and last title. His first 3 titles were largely with the same group of players and this was with another group.
Few Gaelic football managers have won more All Irelands, he clearly is a top manager of football teams but should he be regarded as one of the great GAA managers?.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1358 - 29/07/2022 15:18:21    2435253

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Who was marking Comer and did Comer score at all? I don't remember Comer scoring at all but I'm not 100% sure."
Comer never scored and never even looked like scoring…..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1943 - 29/07/2022 16:23:02    2435276

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Jack O'Connor, if I'm looking at it correct, has over 3 terms managed Kerry for 9 seasons between 2003 and this year. In those 9 seasons he has now won 4 titles. In this time frame Kerry have also won 2 titles with other managers and the role of manager has changed a good bit between his first and last title. His first 3 titles were largely with the same group of players and this was with another group.
Few Gaelic football managers have won more All Irelands, he clearly is a top manager of football teams but should he be regarded as one of the great GAA managers?."
The amazing thing also is Jack has done the double everytime. Jack has managed Kerry to 4 all ireland titles 04 06 09 and 22 and each time Kerry won the league too. Also to my knowledge Jack is the oldest manager to manage a winning all Ireland team and also there is a gap of 18years from his first win to this year's win. He also has managed Kerry to win minor and under 21 all ireland and has managed his school to all ireland success too so yes he has to be recognised as an all time great gaa manager.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 29/07/2022 18:01:27    2435296

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Jack O'Connor, if I'm looking at it correct, has over 3 terms managed Kerry for 9 seasons between 2003 and this year. In those 9 seasons he has now won 4 titles. In this time frame Kerry have also won 2 titles with other managers and the role of manager has changed a good bit between his first and last title. His first 3 titles were largely with the same group of players and this was with another group.
Few Gaelic football managers have won more All Irelands, he clearly is a top manager of football teams but should he be regarded as one of the great GAA managers?."
He'd have won the All Ireland last year if he was in charge of Kerry and probably at more of a canter then they this year.

He might have even won in 2020, that Dublin team peaked in 2019 and was passed its best 15 months later come the final against Mayo

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 260 - 29/07/2022 18:04:35    2435297

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Who was marking Comer and did Comer score at all? I don't remember Comer scoring at all but I'm not 100% sure."
No and Jason Foley was marking him

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3353 - 29/07/2022 18:25:18    2435307

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