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Galway Can Beat Kerry In The Final.

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Remember this Galway team operated in Division 2 and failed in that Final…. Kerry romped home in Division 1…. There is a big difference between the teams… If both teams play to their potential there will be only one winner… the difference in quality in the 2 semi finals was massive

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3761 - 12/07/2022 13:11:07    2431644

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Remember this Galway team operated in Division 2 and failed in that Final…. Kerry romped home in Division 1…. There is a big difference between the teams… If both teams play to their potential there will be only one winner… the difference in quality in the 2 semi finals was massive"
Remember that Cavan were releagted from Div 2 in 2020 and beat two teams in the champioship who retained their Div 1 status, on their way to an Ulster title....
Remember all the hurling winners who were in Div 1b the years they won.
League form can and should be ignored

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/07/2022 13:38:02    2431656

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Remember that Cavan were releagted from Div 2 in 2020 and beat two teams in the champioship who retained their Div 1 status, on their way to an Ulster title....
Remember all the hurling winners who were in Div 1b the years they won.
League form can and should be ignored"
We are talking about an All Ireland final here not a provincial final that no longer holds much merit to the big guns because of the back door…. When did a Division 2 team last win an All Ireland…. it doesn't happen very often

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3761 - 12/07/2022 13:49:11    2431659

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Remember that Cavan were releagted from Div 2 in 2020 and beat two teams in the champioship who retained their Div 1 status, on their way to an Ulster title....
Remember all the hurling winners who were in Div 1b the years they won.
League form can and should be ignored"
It will all be on the day. Same as any other final. Who plays best when it matters. The rest is irrelevant.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15530 - 12/07/2022 13:59:00    2431664

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Remember this Galway team operated in Division 2 and failed in that Final…. Kerry romped home in Division 1…. There is a big difference between the teams… If both teams play to their potential there will be only one winner… the difference in quality in the 2 semi finals was massive"
So Galway will be massive underdogs and completely written off like the games against Mayo, Armagh and Derry (with Roscommon a 50:50 game)? That's great news.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 12/07/2022 14:17:56    2431669

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Replying To timmyhogan:  ".

Or to be precise - it's not a better bet necessarily merely a better potential return ;-)"
Mayo have lost 8 All Ireland Finals since Galway last won in 2001

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2554 - 12/07/2022 14:26:37    2431673

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Remember this Galway team operated in Division 2 and failed in that Final…. Kerry romped home in Division 1…. There is a big difference between the teams… If both teams play to their potential there will be only one winner… the difference in quality in the 2 semi finals was massive"
You judge teams on championship form. Galway made up for their league final lose to Roscommon by beating them in Connacht final.

Both have played and beat Mayo. Galway did in MacHale Park and Mayo had O'Donoghue for that match.

Another Div 1 team Armagh taken out matter of fact 2nd, 3rd in Div 1 taken out by Galway.

Galway have a structured defence to ask plenty of question marks of Kerry forwards. The two main scoring forwards Sean O'Shea and David Clifford will get extra attention.

Galways midfield pairing has the capabilities to break even with Kerrys and front line that will keep Kerrys defenders on their toes.

All makes for a close competitive intriguing contest in my view

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 12/07/2022 14:30:16    2431675

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "We are talking about an All Ireland final here not a provincial final that no longer holds much merit to the big guns because of the back door…. When did a Division 2 team last win an All Ireland…. it doesn't happen very often"
Dublin will be in div2 next year are you saying they are no hopers for Sam next year?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15530 - 12/07/2022 14:31:40    2431676

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Replying To katser:  "Mayo have lost 8 All Ireland Finals since Galway last won in 2001"
Not sure what point you are making katser. Factually correct though. Amazing record - getting to an All Ireland every 2.5 years for a period of 20 years. Sure, you can point to the fact that they won none , but it is a fantastic achievement and one that all bar 2 or 3 counties would be envious of - Galway being one county who are envious of that record.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 981 - 12/07/2022 14:36:36    2431678

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Replying To katser:  "Mayo have lost 8 All Ireland Finals since Galway last won in 2001"
Interesting that overall, Galway and Mayo actually have similar All Ireland losses - we've lost 13 in total, they've lost 15.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1045 - 12/07/2022 14:50:17    2431683

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Replying To katser:  "Mayo have lost 8 All Ireland Finals since Galway last won in 2001"
Plus one in a replay! Having them bragging rights for, probably the next 100 years, should be enough of incentive to ye Katser. Not that ye need one.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7926 - 12/07/2022 14:55:45    2431684

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "We are talking about an All Ireland final here not a provincial final that no longer holds much merit to the big guns because of the back door…. When did a Division 2 team last win an All Ireland…. it doesn't happen very often"
It doesnt happen often but Tipp and Cavan winning provincial titles in 2020 and Leicester City winning the PL a few years back has happened and the likes will happen again. Galway have been quite impressive this year so I'm giving them a chance.
Most of the Div 1 teams have actually been beaten in the cship this year by teams in lower divisions of the league so that stat alone will tell you its not as important as its being made out to be

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/07/2022 15:00:24    2431685

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Replying To katser:  "Mayo have lost 8 All Ireland Finals since Galway last won in 2001"
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What ;-)
Did you respond to the wrong post?

I corrected an imprecision in a helpful post advising a Meath poster that he could get a bigger price than 3/1 and it has upset you somehow. All those Mayo defeats to hang onto and you are still bitter about something.

Jaysis, it must be tough in that little world. Galway are in an AIF - Be Happy.

timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 12/07/2022 15:05:11    2431689

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Replying To tommy k:  "So Galway will be massive underdogs and completely written off like the games against Mayo, Armagh and Derry (with Roscommon a 50:50 game)? That's great news."
Take it what ever way you like…., believe me I hope Galway win but I can't see it happening

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3761 - 12/07/2022 15:14:31    2431693

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Replying To timmyhogan:  ".

What ;-)
Did you respond to the wrong post?

I corrected an imprecision in a helpful post advising a Meath poster that he could get a bigger price than 3/1 and it has upset you somehow. All those Mayo defeats to hang onto and you are still bitter about something.

Jaysis, it must be tough in that little world. Galway are in an AIF - Be Happy."
I remember you saying back in 2018 that Mayo would win the All Ireland before Galway get a chance to even get to the Final.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2554 - 12/07/2022 15:23:10    2431696

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Replying To togoutlads:  "Interesting that overall, Galway and Mayo actually have similar All Ireland losses - we've lost 13 in total, they've lost 15."
Of course it's all to play for! Galway have been improving steadily - been lucky at times.

I feel it's the younger players who will show the biggest improvement in final - they are hugely talented.. And it will be taxing on the opposition - planning for the unknowns and, the unknown unknowns.. Much easier task for Pj & Co. as this Kerry team has been around a while..

AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 102 - 12/07/2022 15:50:06    2431707

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Plus one in a replay! Having them bragging rights for, probably the next 100 years, should be enough of incentive to ye Katser. Not that ye need one."
Both Galway and Mayo lost replayed AI finals. We absolutely left the 2000 AI after us on the first day against Kerry, as much as ye did on yer turn!

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1045 - 12/07/2022 16:09:22    2431717

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Besides this being a Galway AI final forum and not a chronology of Mayo's recent history in finals, it must be noted and recognized what Mayo achieved these last 10 years.
That said I don't like this talk of Galway having a "free shot" in this year's final, I'm almost of the opposite view that having not been in a final for 21 years that it might be a long time before we get this chance again and should seize our opportunity.
If our backs have a big day we could have enough to win this.

Galway4ever (Galway) - Posts: 221 - 12/07/2022 16:43:28    2431726

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Remember this Galway team operated in Division 2 and failed in that Final…. Kerry romped home in Division 1…. There is a big difference between the teams… If both teams play to their potential there will be only one winner… the difference in quality in the 2 semi finals was massive"
I'd say the Galway QF was on a par and if anything was a better game than the Dublin - Kerry SF but obviously with everything that happened, the quality of that QF gets overlooked. Offensively, defensively, conditioning,resilence Galway were pushed to the limit that day against 3rd in Division 1.

Kerry are favourites as Division 1 winners and will probably just get over the line but Galway deserve respect and will make it a competitive final, they've got a great chance.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 12/07/2022 16:59:08    2431729

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Replying To togoutlads:  "Both Galway and Mayo lost replayed AI finals. We absolutely left the 2000 AI after us on the first day against Kerry, as much as ye did on yer turn!"
Ye won the Big two in '98 and' 01 though. That was a serious team of footballers.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7926 - 12/07/2022 17:23:11    2431735

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